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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Focus / November 2006Focus dials to max on ignition
Hi, On ignition my '99 focus dashboard dials (speedo, revs, petrol gauge) all fly up to max for a couple of seconds than drop back to normal. This doesn't appear to cause any more problems and it has always started but it is disconcerting and i guess the focus is trying to tell me something is wrong. The only pattern i have noticed is that it happens more on damp mornings but this is not always the case so i might be seeing causes that are not there. anyone else have this problem or know what causes it? thanks dashy > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > dashy Sadly I don't know the answer, but my '99 has been doing the same thing for 18 months or so. It's rebooting the dash electronics. It started to happen very occasionally when the weather was cold, and has gradually got worse. It now does it pretty much all the time. Recently it caused the odometer to reset to zero also. I've always thought it was a failing battery; it's the original, but like yours it continues to start reliably. I've read that a common cause is a poor connection where the main battery cable connects to the engine bay fuse box. Purely by coincidence I've just come in from checking that out! It's a bit of a pig to get to, I removed the connection, cleaned it up and sprayed it with contact cleaner. I also cleaned up the main body earth as that was dirty and rusty. The result? Zilch! It's exactly the same! Anyone??? Chris  SignatureRemove prejudice to reply. >> Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Anyone??? Hmmm, Chris has explored the most usual cause for the dash rebooting- as the cause is it's loosing the constant 12v power supply during igntion on / engine start which is most likely down to a poor earth or poor supply which is vanishing under heavy load of the starter etc. Finding the cause could well be very time consuming. I would also pop down the interior fuse box, remove the cover and check the 2 main feeds to this also, and ditto the central timer relay- pull it out and re-seat it. Tim.. >>> Hi, >>> [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > Tim.. Thanks Tim. I've just tried both of those to no effect, although the interior fuse box didn't have any sort of cover. I had to remove it to get to the connections on the back. Fun job, huh? I've put it all back, connections scrupulously clean, fault still there. I also temporarily used a bit of 6mm cable from the battery pos to the fuse box feeds. Made no difference, so I'm reasonably sure the fault is not voltage drop between the battery and fusebox. Thing is, I drove it 15 miles this am with minimal electrical load. I checked the battery terminal voltage when I got back and it was 12.44v. (The meter I used is an industrial Fluke that has been independently calibrated, so I trust its accuracy.) That does seem a bit low, but yet it's never failed to start the car even when it's not been used for a week or so. I'm going to check the battery voltage after it has stood overnight, and if it seems too low I think I will stick another battery on it anyway. It can't have much life left in it after nearly 8 years. If I do, I will post the results. Chris SignatureRemove prejudice to reply. Thanks for the response - i think i'm running the original battery (haven't checked) so i'll be interested to hear of any improvement. Was considering changing the battry last winter when the traction control light started flashing - pulled over and discovered having the front and rear heated windows and AC on appeared to pull too much juice from the battery so started to affect all electrical systems. Put this down to a cold damp start - turned everything off - 'played' with the traction control on a couple of bends and it was all alright again - not had that problem since so never got round to investigating further. On Oct 30, 2:56 pm, Chris Whelan <cawhe...@prejudicentlworld.com> wrote: > >>> Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] > -- > Remove prejudice to reply.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - > Thanks for the response - i think i'm running the original battery > (haven't checked) so i'll be interested to hear of any improvement. Was [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > traction control on a couple of bends and it was all alright again - > not had that problem since so never got round to investigating further. The ECU has control of the Heated windows, a/c and alternator regulation, and will inhibit operation of the 'screens and a/c (boils down to condensor fans really) if the operating conditions prevent the alternator providing enough juice to keep the battery voltage up to a set level. You can simulate this by leaving your lights on for 30mins or so, then starting the engine and immediately applying main beam and interior fan at pos 4 and attempting to activate the screens. As long as you discharged the battery enough you'll find the switches dont work unless you increase the revs to 1500 or so. Tim.. > Thanks Tim. > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > can't have much life left in it after nearly 8 years. If I do, I will post > the results. After 15mins of minimal electrical load and an easy cold start you *definately should have alot more than 12.4v at the battery- I would expect at least 13v. You really should pull the surplus charge off the battery for around 1 minute with roughly a 10amp load, then rest for 5mins before measuring it though for an accurate reading in the absence of a heavy dischrage drop tester. Tim.. > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > dashy Had the same issue on my focus when new , ford went through all soughts of hoops to fix it including replacing the ecu , in the end they changed the whole display and its been fine ever since , they reckoned that it could be a faulty battery similar to a cmos battery on a computer or leaky capacitor -- > anyone else have this problem or know what causes it? I just bought a 2000 Focus ZTS and it always does this on iginition. Until I read this thread, I assumed it was normal. I came searching the newsgroup because my trip odometer occasionally resets to 0 and I was looking for a resolution to that issue. Now it appears that the reset is a symptom of a different problem.... Did you resolve it? >> anyone else have this problem or know what causes it? >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Did you resolve it? I haven't solved the problem on my UK Focus yet. The next step for me is to replace the battery. It's coming up to eight years old now, and the terminal voltage after the car has stood all night is only 12.3 volts. I'm hopeful that it might be the reason I'm having the dash reboots. Trouble is, it still reliably starts the car so it's hard to justify replacing it. There may be some minor differences with US versions so this may not make perfect sense! Have you checked that all the following are clean and secure? 1. Main earth connections from battery to body. 2. Main feed wire to under-bonnet fuse box. (Tricky to get to!) 3. Main feed wire to interior fuse box. In each case you should remove the connection, clean it with something mildly abrasive and the replace it. Sadly it didn't help me, but it is the common wisdom with this fault to try these things first. Chris SignatureRemove prejudice to reply.
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