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My sons 2001 Focus has a bad miss in it. I changed the plugs because it was time and it didn't fix it. While the car is running I pulled 1 plug wire at a time to see if the motor will pull down. 3 of the 4 did pull the motor down. The 4th one did not. Each time I pulled the good pull wire off of the distributor I could see/hear the electrical pulses and they are real loud and powerful. The bad one doesn't may any noise but will shock you just a little. Is the distributor bad? You shouldn't do that. It is ok with old cars, but with relatively newer cars equiped with ecu, you can damage the ecu/other parts that way. Unfortunately you should go to car electritian/mecanic equiped to resolve this easily. > My sons 2001 Focus has a bad miss in it. I changed the plugs because it > was time and it didn't fix it. While the car is running I pulled 1 plug [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > real loud and powerful. The bad one doesn't may any noise but will shock > you just a little. Is the distributor bad? > You shouldn't do that. It is ok with old cars, but with relatively newer > cars equiped with ecu, you can damage the ecu/other parts that way. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >After I did what I did, I did read on the www not to do that. Dumb me...old >school stuff you know? > My sons 2001 Focus has a bad miss in it. I changed the plugs because it > was time and it didn't fix it. While the car is running I pulled 1 plug [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > real loud and powerful. The bad one doesn't may any noise but will shock > you just a little. Is the distributor bad? When were the plug leads last replaced? These need to be changed every 40,000 miles for genuine Ford ones. Likewise with the plugs, which should be gapped at 1mm. I would suggest doing that first, then post back. HTH Chris  SignatureRemove prejudice to reply. New plugs, new wires. Still the same problem. Our mech at work said he would stop by at 0400 in the morning to put his handheld test device on it and give me the error codes. That hopefully will give me some hints on what to do... >> My sons 2001 Focus has a bad miss in it. I changed the plugs because it >> was time and it didn't fix it. While the car is running I pulled 1 plug [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Chris > New plugs, new wires. Still the same problem. Our mech at work said he > would stop by at 0400 in the morning to put his handheld test device on it [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> >> Chris Well the error codes I have isn't in my book. I'll have to go looking for them on the www. The codes are P1130, P1131, P0171 >> New plugs, new wires. Still the same problem. Our mech at work said >> he would stop by at 0400 in the morning to put his handheld test [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Well the error codes I have isn't in my book. I'll have to go looking > for them on the www. The codes are P1130, P1131, P0171 Try http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=59286 In message <NyF2h.8522$Wy6.3126@trnddc01>, Ronnie <verizonplano@msn.com> wrote >Well the error codes I have isn't in my book. I'll have to go looking for >them on the www. The codes are P1130, P1131, P0171 All the codes appear to be related <http://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/generic/p0171-system-too-lean-ban k-1-oxygen-sensor.php> <http://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/ford/index.php> <http://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/index.php> Another alternative is the coil pack. When mine failed the car was running as though one cylinder wasn't firing. The error codes I got were totally unconnected with the fault. Most probably the fault with the coil pack introduced interference into the engine management causing erroneous codes. SignatureAlan news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com > New plugs, new wires. Still the same problem. Our mech at work said he > would stop by at 0400 in the morning to put his handheld test device on it > and give me the error codes. That hopefully will give me some hints on > what to do... Right, change the coil pack next. They do cause problems, BUT usually caused by either duff leads, or plugs with too large a gap.- the HT has no where to go and finds the weakest please which is internally in the coil pack. Tim.. >> New plugs, new wires. Still the same problem. Our mech at work said he >> would stop by at 0400 in the morning to put his handheld test device on [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Tim.. One Coil Pack installed, check engine light all gone! Car runs 100% better. Took it to have it inspected and it failed due to the reset of the error codes. They said put 45 miles on it and bring it back! Beer store is 20 miles away, round trip is 40! I'll take it back in the am to see if it passes. I bet it will. I'll post my results in the am! >>> New plugs, new wires. Still the same problem. Our mech at work said he >>> would stop by at 0400 in the morning to put his handheld test device on [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >Back form the beer store and not onnly the car is feeling fine, i'm filling >fine too! No check endine light still. I think everbody for helping me. Peace out! >>>> New plugs, new wires. Still the same problem. Our mech at work said he >>>> would stop by at 0400 in the morning to put his handheld test device on [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >Oops, sorry for the drunk typing above. I should know better. Anyways, car >is still running fine but the check engine light came back on. Back to the drawing board :( In message <1g13h.384$Bk5.275@trnddc06>, Ronnie <verizonplano@msn.com> wrote >the check engine light came back on. Back to the drawing board :( <http://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/generic/p0171-system-too-lean-ban k-1-oxygen-sensor.php> SignatureAlan news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com >>the check engine light came back on. Back to the drawing board :( > > <http://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/generic/p0171-system-too-lean-ban > k-1-oxygen-sensor.php> OK, the only error code left is P0171 bank1. Here we go a looking again! >>>the check engine light came back on. Back to the drawing board :( >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >This model has 2 Oxygen Sensors. 1 b-4 the catalytic converter and 1 after. >Which one is Bank 1? >>>>the check engine light came back on. Back to the drawing board :( >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >smooth as if it were new! I'll drive it around for a while B-4 I take it >back for the final inspection... >>>>>the check engine light came back on. Back to the drawing board :( >>>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >have repaired but money has been very tight this year and I needed to try >and save every $ I could. the coil pack that had gone down has let unburnt fuel down into the exhaust and given you the emissions fault code. > the coil pack that had gone down has let unburnt fuel down into the > exhaust and given you the emissions fault code. >That is almost word for word what the fellow at the Autozone said. Good >call Mark ! Thanks! I actually work at a ford dealer in Essex. (uk) Although I am in the bodyshop as a fitter I do keep up to date with the goings on and show a particular interest in ford's. Glad to hear its all sorted now! did u have to have a new oxygen sensor fitted too or did a good drive/thrashing sort it out? MC. >> the coil pack that had gone down has let unburnt fuel down into the >> exhaust and given you the emissions fault code. >>That is almost word for word what the fellow at the Autozone said. Good >>call Mark ! > Thanks! I actually work at a ford dealer in Essex. (uk) Although I am > in the bodyshop as a fitter I do keep up to date with the goings on and [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >They cleaned it and drove the car around and it's runs perfect. He did say >if it started actting up again I would need to replace it! |
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