Am I uniquely unlucky in the poor quality of customer service at my nearest
Ford dealerships?
The smaller (and, when last used, competent!) Ford dealerships in my
immediate local area have closed or lost their Ford status, during the last
few years.
The 3 large dealerships in the 3 nearest large towns provide poor customer
service (on the basis of my experience over the last few years).
Two are owned by the same company. The last time I dealt with one of their
sites (about 3 months ago) was on a warranty matter (oil leak). They did the
job OK but left a tool in the engine compartment - wondered what the
rattling was! - and didn't even bother to wipe up the leaked oil (which I
did myself)! Doesn't inspire confidence (like the surgeon who leaves a swab
inside the patient and doesn't sew up the wound properly)!
Needing a 25,000 mile service for my Focus 1.6 TDi , I resolved to use the
other large Ford dealership and completed the on-line service booking form
on the Ford UK website, asking for a service appointment.
Nothing had been heard a week later - so I concluded they must be a 'shower'
as well, like the other big firm!
I decided finally to try out a surviving small family-owned Ford dealership
at a slightly greater distance - in the hope that, being a small firm, they
might at least have a decent customer service standard. (Some hopes, as it
turned out)!
Took car to this small firm by appointment at approx. 9am one day last week
and returned home by train (I live approx. 14 miles away and the firm knew
this). They said they'd ring me on my mobile when finished and mentioned
that they were closing at 5.30pm.
I was out and about with my wife in her car and, having heard nothing from
them by about 4.45pm assumed they must have forgotten to ring me - so and
asked her to drop me at the garage. On arrival the car was in the place
where I'd parked it 7+ hours previously, but I assumed the job must have
been done.
No such luck - the service, as they admitted, had not even commenced!
Receptionist reminded me that he was going to ring me when the service was
completed. (Pointed out that no way I could get there from home in under 1
hour - so I'd have been unable to collect that evening if he rang me when
the car was ready)!
Apologetically, they put two (very junior-looking) mechanics onto the job,
in an open-doored workshop.
I sat on a wall outside and watched them. The entire job took little more
than 1/2 hour. The bill for labour was £102 + VAT (+ another large amount
for over-priced oil, etc.) - a total bill of just under £170. Not bad for
about 1 man-hour of work?
Didn't see them open the boot, so they didn't check the spare wheel,
incidentally. They didn't do a test-drive on the road (isn't this supposed
to be done as a matter of course)?
Bill paid and keys handed over, I asked where the service record book was.
Was told it was in the car. Looked in the car and couldn't find it, so
returned to reception office. Frantic search .. service book finally
unearthed. Asked them to stamp it. Was given it and noticed that they had
written in 23,000 miles - not 25,000 miles. They apologised and amended the
mileage figure. The whole exercise smacked of slackness, inefficiency and
lack of
professionalism. Yet another Ford dealership to be avoided!!!
Next time I'll be using my local highly-competent (they service my wife's
car and I've hired vans from them!) non-Ford garage, which tries very hard
to be helpul/efficient - despite the theoretical benefits of using a Ford
dealer for servicing.
Has anyone else suffered in this way? What's a fair price for a 25000
service on a Focus diesel?
Thanks.

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Alan - 24 Feb 2007 19:50 GMT
>Has anyone else suffered in this way? What's a fair price for a 25000
>service on a Focus diesel?
Essex Ford by any chance?

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Paul - 24 Feb 2007 20:14 GMT
>>Has anyone else suffered in this way? What's a fair price for a 25000
>>service on a Focus diesel?
>
> Essex Ford by any chance?
No. I'm in Yorkshire, but sounds as though you have similar problems down
there!?
Paul

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Mike - 24 Feb 2007 21:44 GMT
This must be Polar of York.
They charge you a fortune, want the car for a full day to do the smallest of
jobs, are rude,
un-helpful, and basically think they are doing you a great favour.
On top of this they will take your car for a good high speed thrash down the
road,
everything in the boot will look as if the car has been on a rally, and it
will be returned with up to 26 extra miles on the clock.
You are also lucky if the car is not slightly damaged in any way, i.e. foot
scrapes over the sills, on the inner door panels etc.
Very Unimpressed.
> Am I uniquely unlucky in the poor quality of customer service at my
> nearest
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> Thanks.
Paul - 25 Feb 2007 19:46 GMT
> This must be Polar of York.
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> Very Unimpressed.
Good guess Mike - Polar is the one which left a tool in my engine
compartment and didn't even wipe up the leaked oil from around the engine!
Not York however, but Barnsley. They also have the Wakefield franchise
(sadly)! I'm delighted to know that some people have a decent Ford dealer
within range - I did at one time but they've shut down!
Paul

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Bob Minchin - 24 Feb 2007 21:48 GMT
What's a fair price for a 25000
> service on a Focus diesel?
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>I was charged £178.37 for a 25k service on 2.0L tdci C-Max
two weeks ago. I was going to use a local independent but I needed some
warranty jobs doing.
I presume you know that your warranty is still valid even if a non
franchised garage does the work. They are supposed to use Ford parts.
Bob
Gary - 25 Feb 2007 03:33 GMT
> Am I uniquely unlucky in the poor quality of customer service at my
> nearest
> Ford dealerships?
Similar problems over the years here in Northern Ireland with a Ford dealer
who have taken over almost all the small local dealers. This is despite them
winning the Ford Chairman's Award for Customer Service! I suspect they do
this by only surveying happy customers, as I've never had a follow up survey
any time I've had a problem. I certainly won't be buying another Ford, as
the after sales customer service simply isn't up to scratch.
Gary.
Tony Sutton - 25 Feb 2007 08:52 GMT
> Am I uniquely unlucky in the poor quality of customer service at my
> nearest
> Ford dealerships?
No problem for me with two different Ford garages in South Norfolk. (Bussey
and Abbeygate)
Left my car, they told me specific time to pick up (usually 1 to 2 hours or
so), came back and the car is ready for me.
If they made a mistake, they fix it immediately and doesn't charge me for
any additional labour time.
I'm happy with both of them.

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Paul Giverin - 25 Feb 2007 09:16 GMT
>> Am I uniquely unlucky in the poor quality of customer service at my
>> nearest
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>I'm happy with both of them.
Busseys in Attleborough are very good but that's because they have
retained most of their staff after the buy out of Dingles.

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John Smith - 09 Sep 2007 11:39 GMT
Found Busseys in Attleborough to be very good.Especially Tony in the parts
dept.
Smiffy
> Busseys in Attleborough are very good but that's because they have
> retained most of their staff after the buy out of Dingles.
Tony Sutton - 12 Sep 2007 18:17 GMT
> Found Busseys in Attleborough to be very good.Especially Tony in the parts
> dept.
I echo the comment.

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Mike - 13 Sep 2007 20:23 GMT
It is nice to hear good reports about Ford dealerships, unfortunately Polar
in York is not one of them.
They think they are doing you, the customer a favour. On top of this they
are incompetent, resulting of return visits instead of a first time fix,
they need the car for days for small jobs and usually damage the car in one
way or another - from foot scrapes on the sills to actual bodywork damage.
I often travel 30 - 40 miles to another dealership just to avoid them. Their
service department is enough to make you migrate away from Ford !
Mike
> Found Busseys in Attleborough to be very good.Especially Tony in the parts
> dept.
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>> Busseys in Attleborough are very good but that's because they have
>> retained most of their staff after the buy out of Dingles.
Paul - 25 Feb 2007 20:16 GMT
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>> nearest
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> I'm happy with both of them.
Thanks Tony. Must be wonderful to have a decent Ford dealer near you! The
two decent ones I've dealt with, up in Yorkshire, are now no longer
available (sadly).
I used to have Ford company cars, back in the 70s - 90s and remember dealing
with a firm in Sheffield for company car servicing - Brook Shaw Ltd (now
long gone). The arrogance of their staff was incredible - they were rude and
offhand, probably knowing I had no choice but to use them. Once asked for
warranty work on a Ford Escort - heater not turning off properly (so too
hot on a summer day!) and doors not closing properly (resulting in wind
noise around the door seals). Their response was effectively 'what do you
expect
with a cheap car like the Escort'. Think I ended up doing the heater control
adjustment myself and continued to suffer the wind noise.
They once did some work on the engine and I noticed an item on the bill for
a replacement plastic cooling fan. Asked why this was needed and they
commented that they'd accidentally broken it. They seemed surprised that I
was querying the item in view the fact that I wasn't personally paying the
bill!
I thought the 'bad old days' of Ford dealers were gone (having dealt with
several Vauxhall dealers and found them OK) -- that is until I dealt with
Polar and the other smaller dealership recently used.
Regards,
Paul

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Paul Johnson - 26 Feb 2007 20:52 GMT
> >> Am I uniquely unlucky in the poor quality of customer service at my
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Every Ford dealer in Birmingham is piss poor!I brought a brand new
Fiesta tdci about 5 years ago-when they first came out-from Bristol
street Birmingham-the master slave cylinder went on the brakes after
about three months-I was having to push the brake pedal to the floor
to get the thing to stop.
It took them 5 days to fix it-they said it would take all day to do
and they didnt have the parts-I called Ford and asked for a
replacement vehicle and within 10 minutes I got a call from the dealer
explaining that the car would be ready in an hour.
ANother time I fouind my rear nearside brake light was not working
after I had changed the bulb(it seemed to keep blowing the bulb)
Bristol street had the car for ten minutes and told me it was a faulty
bulb and then charged me 40 pounds. I wrote to Ford and they gave me a
free service.
You must keep complaining to Ford and they will threaten these
"showers" ;) with the loss of their franchise-watch the c.nts kiss
your a.s the next time you go in.
f.ck Ford I am going to buy a Kia-7 year warranty.
Gary - 26 Feb 2007 23:11 GMT
> <snip>
>
> You must keep complaining to Ford and they will threaten these
> "showers" ;) with the loss of their franchise-watch the c.nts kiss
> your a.s the next time you go in.
Where did you write to in Ford? I have to say my experience with their
Customer Services Dept hasn't exactely been overwhelming either...
Gary.
Paul Johnson - 27 Feb 2007 06:42 GMT
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> Gary.
The ford number I used was 08458411111, I emailed as well and then
also I contacted the head of Bristol street -if I recall his name is
Martin Hamer. Bristol street was in the new recently for ripping
customers off-
paul.groves@gmail.com - 25 Feb 2007 09:21 GMT
It's just lax isn't it? You hear stories of diesels coming back from
service with no real power, popping the bonnet reveals vacuum hoses
left disconnected. A mate of mine took his Fiesta to be serviced to a
garage in south Manchester on his dinner break, first service, so no
real work needed to be done - it'd jusifiably be an hour of job.
He sat on the wall and watched them move a car off one of the the
ramps.. only to refill it with oil after they'd moved it :S
I mean, come on.
My first service for my 05 Focus went ok - as far as I could see. They
charged £140 at a garage in north Manchester. 4 quid of which was for
refilling the already full washer bottle. They muddied my driver side
footwell mat. Managed to get mud on the sill on the same side.. They
actually hosed the car down, kinda washing it, which was nice of them.
What I wanted to know was whether they did everything the service book
says. Did they check the pollen filter? Did they look at the
suspension geometry? Who knows.
All I do know is, that they've got you.
Buggers.
:(
jim.arnold@tesco.net - 28 Feb 2007 12:53 GMT
Hendy Ford on the South coast is just as bad
and contacting Ford Customer Service is a waste of time - they may act
if they get enough complaints I suppose
The only option is to avoid Ford - shame really my Focus is a decent
car
Paul Johnson - 28 Feb 2007 22:17 GMT
On 28 Feb, 12:53, jim.arn...@tesco.net wrote:
> Hendy Ford on the South coast is just as bad
> and contacting Ford Customer Service is a waste of time - they may act
> if they get enough complaints I suppose
>
> The only option is to avoid Ford - shame really my Focus is a decent
> car
The ceed by Kia(crap name but a well made shed)
Chris Whelan - 01 Mar 2007 08:48 GMT
> Hendy Ford on the South coast is just as bad
> and contacting Ford Customer Service is a waste of time - they may act
> if they get enough complaints I suppose
>
> The only option is to avoid Ford - shame really my Focus is a decent
> car
If you think the standard of Ford dealers is poor, you should try some of
the others! In particular, Citroen dealers are hopeless; of course, with a
Focus you are much less likely to need a dealer's services :-)
Chris

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underdog - 01 Mar 2007 17:00 GMT
> Am I uniquely unlucky in the poor quality of customer service at my nearest
> Ford dealerships?
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> Thanks.
Makes me glad I have a good one here in the states, an oil change is
~$22, and takes less then an hour and I get a car if I want or need one,
170pounds (sorry don't know how to make the symbol) that's $332.80 USD.
Paul Johnson - 04 Mar 2007 17:31 GMT
> > Am I uniquely unlucky in the poor quality of customer service at my nearest
> > Ford dealerships?
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> ~$22, and takes less then an hour and I get a car if I want or need one,
> 170pounds (sorry don't know how to make the symbol) that's $332.80 USD.
nice 1 -see what happens when your oil supply dries up/