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Strange Focus Problem - Engine Dying

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Red Squirrel - 12 May 2008 22:20 GMT
Yesterday I had a strange problem with my 2001 Focus 2.0 Zetec.  As I was
accelerating out of a motorway service station to join the M3 the engine
suddenly died.  Dropped down to third gear and it seemed to pick up again
so went on a bit.  It died again and then picked up.

It died a third time and I was just about to pull onto the hard shoulder
and phone the RAC when it picked up again.  I noticed no more problems on
the rest of my 50 mile journey home but I did take it steady at about 60mph
for the rest of the journey, and kept the revs low.

At no time during all this did any of the warning lights come on.

Went to work in the car today, a short journey of about 3 miles each way at
the most.  I had no problems.

Any thoughts from anyone before I book it in to my local garage.  My first
thoughts were along the lines of fuel blockage or dirty air cleaner.

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Ron - 12 May 2008 20:29 GMT
> Yesterday I had a strange problem with my 2001 Focus 2.0 Zetec.  As I was
> accelerating out of a motorway service station to join the M3 the engine
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> Any thoughts from anyone before I book it in to my local garage.  My first
> thoughts were along the lines of fuel blockage or dirty air cleaner.

I also have an '01 ZX3, and had similar symptoms.  To make it
interesting, I actually had two problems at the same time.  The DPFE
sensor was causing rough running and was throwing codes, but the car
would quit on me when the engine was very hot, like a long trip in warm
weather.  I would stop for gas/food/relief, and it would act up when I
tried to go. I corrected the DFPE problem (second time), and what I
found for the second problem was a bad ignition coil.  When I removed
the old one, there were burn marks on the sealant on the bottom.  New
coil and fine running since.

Ron
Chicago Paddling-Fishing - 13 May 2008 06:35 GMT
>> Yesterday I had a strange problem with my 2001 Focus 2.0 Zetec.  As I was
>> accelerating out of a motorway service station to join the M3 the engine
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>> Any thoughts from anyone before I book it in to my local garage.  My first
>> thoughts were along the lines of fuel blockage or dirty air cleaner.

>I also have an '01 ZX3, and had similar symptoms.  To make it
>interesting, I actually had two problems at the same time.  The DPFE
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>the old one, there were burn marks on the sealant on the bottom.  New
>coil and fine running since.

I haven't had this issue (yet) with my focus, but I had a similar issue
with my porsche. It turned out to be the DME relay was bad and just as it
got up to running temperature, it was cutting power to the DME (which in
turns controls fuel mapping).  Months of frustration for what ended up
being a $16 part...

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Chris Whelan - 13 May 2008 09:09 GMT
> Yesterday I had a strange problem with my 2001 Focus 2.0 Zetec.  As I was
> accelerating out of a motorway service station to join the M3 the engine
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Any thoughts from anyone before I book it in to my local garage.  My first
> thoughts were along the lines of fuel blockage or dirty air cleaner.

Some extra information may help.

How many miles has it done? When was it last serviced?

Chris

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David Hearn - 13 May 2008 10:25 GMT
>> Yesterday I had a strange problem with my 2001 Focus 2.0 Zetec.  As I was
>> accelerating out of a motorway service station to join the M3 the engine
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>
> Chris

and petrol or diesel?

D
Paul Giverin - 13 May 2008 19:59 GMT
>>> Yesterday I had a strange problem with my 2001 Focus 2.0

>>  Some extra information may help.
>>  How many miles has it done? When was it last serviced?   Chris

>and petrol or diesel?
>
>D

It can't be a diesel.

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David Hearn - 14 May 2008 11:14 GMT
>>>> Yesterday I had a strange problem with my 2001 Focus 2.0
>
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>
> It can't be a diesel.

Doh, you're correct.  There weren't 2l diesels until the Mk2.

D
Red Squirrel - 14 May 2008 23:00 GMT
Chris Whelan <cawhelan@prejudicentlworld.com> wrote in news:i1cWj.3$sv3.1
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> Some extra information may help.
>
> How many miles has it done? When was it last serviced?

It has done 71,500 miles.   My son had it serviced just before he moved to
London and sold the car to me, so probably about 8-9 months ago

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Chris Whelan - 15 May 2008 07:37 GMT
> Chris Whelan <cawhelan@prejudicentlworld.com> wrote in news:i1cWj.3$sv3.1
> @newsfe13.ams2:
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> It has done 71,500 miles.   My son had it serviced just before he moved to
> London and sold the car to me, so probably about 8-9 months ago

It is vital for Zetec engines to have both plugs and HT leads replaced at
40,000 mile intervals with genuine Ford ones. It is something that often
gets forgotten! Plug gaps must be set to 1.0mm, not 1.3mm as used to be
advised.

Unless you are sure this has been done, it would be sensible to replace them
as a first step. If this is the cause of your problem, continued use may
damage the catalytic converter, and can burn out ignition coils.

Budget about 70UKP for plugs and leads.

Let us know how you get on.

Chris

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Red Squirrel - 15 May 2008 19:42 GMT
>> Chris Whelan <cawhelan@prejudicentlworld.com> wrote in
>> news:i1cWj.3$sv3.1 @newsfe13.ams2:
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>
> Let us know how you get on.

Thanks Chris - I will get it sorted over the weekend.   I have not done
any car mechanics for a while - is it still a task I could do myself or
is it a garage job.

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Chris Whelan - 15 May 2008 21:04 GMT
>>> Chris Whelan <cawhelan@prejudicentlworld.com> wrote in
>>> news:i1cWj.3$sv3.1 @newsfe13.ams2:
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> any car mechanics for a while - is it still a task I could do myself or
> is it a garage job.

If you have changed plugs in the past, you shouldn't have a problem.

You need a plug socket and a short extension. You can't mix up which lead
goes to which plug because the leads are just the right length. Don't
overtighten the plugs.

Remember to replace the leads one at a time!

Some care is needed to locate the new leads on the plugs accurately. It's
possible to get the cap at an angle; it looks OK, but it won't connect to
that cylinder.

Good luck with the weather ;-)

Chris

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David Hearn - 16 May 2008 10:13 GMT
>>>> Chris Whelan <cawhelan@prejudicentlworld.com> wrote in
>>>> news:i1cWj.3$sv3.1 @newsfe13.ams2:
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>
> Chris

Does this engine have taper plugs?  Have the plugs been changed before?
 I've just heard of nightmare issues with taper plugs snapping
(happened to my 1.6 after 26k miles - although these rusted in rather
than just seized).

D

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