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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Focus / October 2009

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Rattlesnake - 30 Sep 2009 12:42 GMT
bought an ST in 2006

from the beginning there was a strange clicking when gear changed or
push/pull torque change

filed complaints to dealer and directly Ford Cologne

front axles 'glued' - no improvement

even a Ford specialist arrived having a look, said this would be 'normal'

last friday when driving home after 5 min heavy noise from engine
compartment, sounds as if some stick hitting the cooling fan

Ford shop takes gearbox off, said gearbox is defective

Ford shop looking for a gearbox repair service. Shop said, not
available. There are NO spare parts for the ST 225 available

Ford shop looking for an exchange gearbox. No gearbox available, neither
exchange nor new.

Ford shop contacts Volvo, Volvo said they cannot work with Ford part
numbers, not possible to sell a Volvo gearbox.

Ford Service Center in Cologne contacted, asking Ford to take the
expenses or part of it.

Ford service center said booking this case into their computer system
will take up to FOUR days....

Ford service says a reply to this case may take another 10 to 20 days
...hmmm...

current situation:

my three yr old car with 70.000km is a heap of scrap metal

lesson learned:

NEVER ever again will buy a Ford car

-loef
Nick the Greek - 30 Sep 2009 15:03 GMT
>bought an ST in 2006
>
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>-loef

You're entitled to a replacement car until the situation is resolved.
Just ask for it.
I had a Mercedes E-Class with a faulty differential, no spare parts
available and had to wait for 1.5 months before a new differential
arrived from Germany.
These things happen.

-Nick
Rattlesnake - 30 Sep 2009 15:08 GMT
> You're entitled to a replacement car until the situation is resolved.
> Just ask for it.
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>
> -Nick

well, maybe this is the subtile difference between Mercedes and Ford?

-loef
Nick the Greek - 30 Sep 2009 20:42 GMT
>> You're entitled to a replacement car until the situation is resolved.
>> Just ask for it.
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>
>-loef

Maybe I wasn't clear. I was given a replacement car both by mercedes
and by ford when it was needed. Sometimes you have to ask for it or
even demand it, but in the end any self-respecting dealer will give it
to you. At least that's how things work here :)
Hope you find a solution.

-Nick
Rattlesnake - 30 Sep 2009 21:49 GMT
> Maybe I wasn't clear. I was given a replacement car both by mercedes
> and by ford when it was needed. Sometimes you have to ask for it or
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>
> -Nick

a replacement car is not so much of my concern, but a participation of
Ford in the repair bill that is. This fault was build-in in the factory.
However Ford decided to talk the problem away instead of resolving it -
until it cracked.
I never had a chiptuning, all service tasks made at Ford shop, so I'm
not to blame for this breakdown. But as it looks now Ford will steal
itself out of his responsibilities. Sad, sad story.

-loef
Paul Giverin - 01 Oct 2009 10:59 GMT
>a replacement car is not so much of my concern, but a participation of
>Ford in the repair bill that is. This fault was build-in in the factory.
>However Ford decided to talk the problem away instead of resolving it -
>until it cracked.

I don't know where you live (I'm guessing Germany) but in the UK we have
a law called "the sale of goods act". It covers many aspects of consumer
law but one part of it states that if there is an "inherent fault"
that's to say a fault which is built in or designed in, then the
manufacturer is responsible for repairing it up to 12 years.

I've got a Dell laptop which developed a serious fault outside the
warranty period. I found out that Dell knew about the fault and
corrected it later on in the production run but didn't recall early
models. I wrote to them quoting the relevant part of the sale of good
act and the next day the came and collected the laptop, repaired it and
returned it within the week.

Perhaps you need to take some legal advice where ever you live. Perhaps
a letter to Ford from a lawyer might do the trick?

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Rattlesnake - 01 Oct 2009 16:49 GMT
>> a replacement car is not so much of my concern, but a participation of
>> Ford in the repair bill that is. This fault was build-in in the factory.
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> Perhaps you need to take some legal advice where ever you live. Perhaps
> a letter to Ford from a lawyer might do the trick?

Paul,

who has to prove a fault is build in? the owner of the car/product? -
good luck.

Yes I'm from Germany.

Putting a lawyer into the game? Lawyer has to be paid. And then he will
fight against Ford's juristic department hmm...

Thanks god there is the internet where everybody can publish bad
experiences - so that others won't step into the same pitfall

-loef
 
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