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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Focus / January 2004

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Long Term Focus Report (My own)

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Alex Kondovski - 22 Nov 2003 20:49 GMT
I own a 2001 Ford Focus ZTS, Leather Auto and so on.....I have about
90,000km on it as of 11/22/03.
It has been the worst car I have owned as far as quality goes.  Now
that I see it being recommended on Consumer Reports, it's making me
sick. One year of average reliability is enough for a
recommendation???  WTF?
My car is slowly but surely dying every day.  I have spent $1000 out
of my own money to fix all kinds of problems.  WHile it was under
warranty, I had over 20 problems!!  Yes, over 20.
The resale value is horrible.  
On the bright side, the car has a lot of room, and drives well.  It's
not really built as solid as Hondas and Toyotas, but it's more
comfortable.
If I had to do it over again, I would have not buy it.
Dave Gower - 22 Nov 2003 23:56 GMT
> It has been the worst car I have owned as far as quality goes.

Just wondering Alex...if you were like me (2000 wagon) and quite happy with
the quality, would you have posted to share your happiness?
badraptor - 23 Nov 2003 00:40 GMT
A car is only as good as it is maintained! OHH and im SHURE the oil was
changed every 3000 miles and the tire rotated every 6000 miles and all the
required services where done too yea right buddy! GIVE US A BREAK YOU MADE
YOUR BED LIE IN IT!
SENIOR FORD MASTER TECHNICIAN-23 YEARS

> > It has been the worst car I have owned as far as quality goes.
>
> Just wondering Alex...if you were like me (2000 wagon) and quite happy with
> the quality, would you have posted to share your happiness?
Mojo JoJo - 23 Nov 2003 07:15 GMT
Well, I'm happy with my Focus, but maintenance isn't everything.  Sometimes
there are just bad cars.  We had a 96 Stratus that we bought in 98, had the
oil changed every 3,000 miles and always had everything maintained and
checked out, and the head gasket blew up not once, but twice.  Anyways, I
don't ever touch the first two model years of cars.  My Focus is keeping me
happy so far :-p

Mojo

> A car is only as good as it is maintained! OHH and im SHURE the oil was
> changed every 3000 miles and the tire rotated every 6000 miles and all the
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> with
> > the quality, would you have posted to share your happiness?
badraptor - 23 Nov 2003 15:26 GMT
But 99% of the time it is! i know ive been doing it for 23 years! 1% IS
MANUFACTURER SCREW UP  .
senior master ford technician
> Well, I'm happy with my Focus, but maintenance isn't everything.  Sometimes
> there are just bad cars.  We had a 96 Stratus that we bought in 98, had the
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> > with
> > > the quality, would you have posted to share your happiness?
Ann - 24 Nov 2003 18:26 GMT
> But 99% of the time it is! i know ive been doing it for 23 years! 1% IS
> MANUFACTURER SCREW UP  .
> senior master ford technician

I have an 18 month old 2 ltr Zetec.  Was left stranded for four hours on the
motorway hard shoulder yesterday - the cooling fan had burnt out taking with
it some of the other wiring!!!!

When I first got my Focus I loved it, but bit by bit strange rattles are
appearing, a couple of 'bits' have fallen off inside (look like brackets for
something or other) and now this.  The handling has also become twitchy - I
no longer feel safe in my Focus!!!! :-(

What I don't know is, are these manufacturing faults or the result of
something done in the garage during servicing.

Ann
Alex Kondovski - 25 Nov 2003 01:13 GMT
> A car is only as good as it is maintained! OHH and im SHURE the oil was
> changed every 3000 miles and the tire rotated every 6000 miles and all the
> required services where done too yea right buddy! GIVE US A BREAK YOU MADE
> YOUR BED LIE IN IT!
> SENIOR FORD MASTER TECHNICIAN-23 YEARS

I have changed the fuel filter, spark plugs, oil & filter every
5000km, brake pads twice, (front & rear), all new rotors, new
suspensions springs, new rear window motor, new latches on rear doors
(rusted) and on trunk lid and so on.
And guess what, I even rotate the tires.
I HOPE FOR FORD'S SAKE, OTHER TECHNICIANS DON'T HAVE THE SAME ATTITUDE
AS YOU.  MAYBE IT'S TIME TO RETIRE.  BLAME THE CUSTOMER, AND SEE THEM
DIS-APPEAR FROM YOUR DEALERSHIP.
badraptor - 25 Nov 2003 03:50 GMT
DID YOU EVER THINK YOUR DRIVING HABITS SUCK!AND I BET YOU DIDNT KNOW THAT
THE ROTORS ARE THROW AWAY WHICH MEANS THAT WHEN YOU NEED BRAKES THE ROTORS
ARE NO GOOD THEY CANT BE TURNED BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO THIN! OHH AND YOU NEVER
BOTHERED TO TELL US THE MILEAGE? SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOU BEAT THE HELL OUT OF
THE CAR AND  NOW YOU WANT TO BLAME SOMEONE ELSE FOR YOUR  LACK OF DRIVING
SKILLS

>"new suspensions springs:

STAY OUT OF THE POTHOLES AND OFF THE CURBS!

>new latches on rear doors
(rusted) and on trunk lid and so on.

QUIT SLAMING THE DECK LID AFTER DELIVERING YOUR PIZZAS!

>And guess what, I even rotate the tires

GEE THAT 25 CENTS WILL GET YOU A PHONE CALL, YOU WANT ME TO DIAL IT FOR YOU?
HERE IS THE NUMBER
1-800- EAT-sh.t

GET A LIFE TAKE RESPONSIBILTY FOR YOUR EVERYDAY ACTIONS AND QUIT BLAMING AND
RIDICULING OTHER PEOPLE FOR YOU LACK OD DRIVING SKILLS.

>MAYBE IT'S TIME TO RETIRE

YES YOUR RIGHT FROM HEARING a.sholes LIKE YOU EVERYDAY!

> > A car is only as good as it is maintained! OHH and im SHURE the oil was
> > changed every 3000 miles and the tire rotated every 6000 miles and all the
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> AS YOU.  MAYBE IT'S TIME TO RETIRE.  BLAME THE CUSTOMER, AND SEE THEM
> DIS-APPEAR FROM YOUR DEALERSHIP.
Father Guido - 05 Dec 2003 04:36 GMT
22 Recalls in 2000/2001 = Quality is No. 1? NOT!

Father Guido
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
I plan on living forever... so far, so good
John Doe - 26 Nov 2003 22:26 GMT
Some of this sounds like "elective surgury".  I've learned to 'live
with' some annoying things in life for the sole purpose of not being
unhappy.  My brother in law used to do this to his cars too.  Wear 'em
out and re-build 'em, over and over.  He put an oversized chevy Impala
radiator in a Ford Cpri car 'cause it kept overheating on him 'cause,
by his own bragging, he drove it too hard.
John
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. . .
> brake pads twice, (front & rear), all new rotors, new
> suspensions springs, new rear window motor, new latches on rear doors
> (rusted) and on trunk lid and so on.
> And guess what, I even rotate the tires . . .
badraptor - 27 Nov 2003 05:33 GMT
LOL  your brother in law sounds very creative , I love that !!! Thats a good
one john.
> Some of this sounds like "elective surgury".  I've learned to 'live
> with' some annoying things in life for the sole purpose of not being
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> > (rusted) and on trunk lid and so on.
> > And guess what, I even rotate the tires . . .
John Doe - 27 Nov 2003 18:05 GMT
He he he.
Oh yeah, he's quite a character.  Not your typical gear-head who wants
to "muscle-up" a car.  more a high-speed cornering maniac.  I
eventually bought that car from him.  A 1973 Capri "autobon" edition
with a v6.  By the time I got it the motor was pretty beat, but the
suspension was super tight and it had headers and custom exhaust.
Quite the fun car.
When I he was dating my sis, he drove a 1962 Volvo that was real loud
and real fast.  Then he got a 6 cyl corvair.  Reeeeeeely hot car, that
thing.  All of his cars have weird modifications to suit his offbeat
tastes.  Driving with him is always a thrill not unlike an amusement
park thrill ride.
John
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> LOL  your brother in law sounds very creative , I love that !!! Thats a good
> one john.
badraptor - 27 Nov 2003 19:28 GMT
I never had any brothers but if i wanted one i would want one like him with
one exception! I would want him to rplace the motors before he game me the
cars!!!!! lol just a thought!
> He he he.
> Oh yeah, he's quite a character.  Not your typical gear-head who wants
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> > LOL  your brother in law sounds very creative , I love that !!! Thats a good
> > one john.
Alex Kondovski - 25 Nov 2003 00:54 GMT
> Just wondering Alex...if you were like me (2000 wagon) and quite happy with
> the quality, would you have posted to share your happiness?

You just posted that you are happy.  I also mentioned that I like the
handling and room inside.  I have posted on Carpoint & Edmunds with
positive evaluations of other cars I have owned.
badraptor - 25 Nov 2003 04:03 GMT
THEN GET THE OTHER CARS BACK.

>I have posted on Carpoint & Edmunds with
positive evaluations of other cars I have owned.

DO YOU THINK YOUR CONSUMER REPORTS
DUDE IN YOUR FIRST POST YOU HATE THE CAR. NOW YOU SAY YOU LIKE THE HANDLEING
YOU SIAD THE RESALE SUCKS! DO US A FAVOR BEFORE THE RESALE GETS WORSE
BECOUSE IF ITS LIKE YOU SAY IT IS, THE CAR BY NOW WILL HAVE LOST ITS WHEELS
HAVE NO A/C THE STEERING WHEEL MAY HAVE FALLEN OFF, THE RADIO MIGHT HAVE
STOPPED WORKING, OHH CHECK YOU HOOD HINGES THEY MIGHT BE RUSTY, YOU MIGHT
HAVE TO PUT YOUR FOOT THROUGH THE FLOOR BOARDS TO STOP THE CAR, SO THE POINT
IS DO US A FAVOR GET RID OF THE CAR, QUIT CRYING, AND NEXT TIME WHEN YOU BUY
A CAR REMEBER THE PRICE OF IT.YOU NOT DRIVING A FREAKING TWIN TURBO
MASARATTI OK .
> > Just wondering Alex...if you were like me (2000 wagon) and quite happy with
> > the quality, would you have posted to share your happiness?
>
> You just posted that you are happy.  I also mentioned that I like the
> handling and room inside.  I have posted on Carpoint & Edmunds with
> positive evaluations of other cars I have owned.
Alex Kondovski - 25 Nov 2003 22:52 GMT
> DO YOU THINK YOUR CONSUMER REPORTS
> DUDE IN YOUR FIRST POST YOU HATE THE CAR. NOW YOU SAY YOU LIKE THE HANDLEING
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> A CAR REMEBER THE PRICE OF IT.YOU NOT DRIVING A FREAKING TWIN TURBO
> MASARATTI OK .

Take it easy buddy.  
I am telling it like it is.  Oh, yea just heard on the news there is
another recall.  It seems that a lot of people are complaining to
NHTSA about stalling/hesitation problems. Damn Focus drivers, must be
abusing their cars!!
Badraptor, you remind me of that Iraqi information minister that kept
on telling bull-sh.t even though the US troops were 20 yards away from
him.  You either are in denial that the 2000/2001 Ford Focus vehicles
have bad quality, or maybe you are just a troll trying to argue for
the sake of arguing.  There is no denying that 2000 & 2001 Foci have
bad quality.  People should know that, and demand that they get better
quality for their hard earned dollars.
badraptor - 25 Nov 2003 23:09 GMT
ohh buy the way ford extended the recal for the focus fuel pump, if you had
one replaced you will get all your money back for 10 years or 100k this
should make you stop complaining about your peace of crap! Ohh and buy the
way i was one of thoughs troops ,3rd inf div first desert storm a.shole
protecting  people like you so you can have freedom of speech! dont even
compare me to him! i didnt even stoop that low i kept the conversation with
the topic not you but you seem to complain about everthing. i bet your
neighbors  love you!!
> > DO YOU THINK YOUR CONSUMER REPORTS
> > DUDE IN YOUR FIRST POST YOU HATE THE CAR. NOW YOU SAY YOU LIKE THE HANDLEING
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> bad quality.  People should know that, and demand that they get better
> quality for their hard earned dollars.
badraptor - 25 Nov 2003 04:15 GMT
>Now that I see it being recommended on Consumer Reports, it's making me
sick

SO WHAT YOUR SAYING IS THAT CONSUMER REPORTS IS WRONG? A BIG COMPANY LIKE
THAT IS WRONG? THIS IS WHAT THEY DO DAY IN AND DAY OUT! AND IT MAKES YOU
SICK? THEY BEAT THE sh.t OUT OF SOME POOR FOCUS AND IT DIDNT  FALL APART ON
THEM?MAYBE JUST MAYBE THE TESTERS WERE PAYED OFF BY FORD MOTOR COMPANY! WHO
KNOW MAYBE JUST MAYBE YOU GOT THE CAR THEY TESTED!!!!!!! ONLY THE SHADOW
NOWS!

> > Just wondering Alex...if you were like me (2000 wagon) and quite happy with
> > the quality, would you have posted to share your happiness?
>
> You just posted that you are happy.  I also mentioned that I like the
> handling and room inside.  I have posted on Carpoint & Edmunds with
> positive evaluations of other cars I have owned.
Anne - 25 Nov 2003 10:09 GMT
> I own a 2001 Ford Focus ZTS, Leather Auto and so on.....I have about
> 90,000km on it as of 11/22/03.
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> comfortable.
> If I had to do it over again, I would have not buy it.

A 3 year old car with 90,000km and you put $1000 into it? Is that supposed
to be an indictment or an endorsement? I should be so lucky.

It seems to me a lot of people on these groups have unrealistic
expectations. It's only a machine, and an inexpensive one at that. You have
to maintain it. You have to fix it. And you have to budget for these things.
I'm told at Daytona they run a car hard for 500 miles and have to rebuild
the thing.

P.S.  If the "little stuff" bothers you, avoid buying early model years in
the future.

Just my 2 cents.
badraptor - 25 Nov 2003 12:21 GMT
WELL SIAD VERY WELL SIAD ANN!!! BRAVO BRAVO

> > I own a 2001 Ford Focus ZTS, Leather Auto and so on.....I have about
> > 90,000km on it as of 11/22/03.
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>
> Just my 2 cents.
LenMinNJ - 28 Jan 2004 18:14 GMT
See: http://www.core-sound.com/myfordfocus.html
LenMinNJ - 28 Jan 2004 18:14 GMT
See: http://www.core-sound.com/myfordfocus.html
 
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