I've been searching on the web for information and pictures rergarding the
next generation Focus which I believe will be on sale in the UK later this
year, but without much luck. I think Ford probably still have it tightly
under wraps.
Does anyone have any links to any information on the new Focus?

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Tim \(Remove NOSPAM. - 03 Apr 2004 00:25 GMT
> I've been searching on the web for information and pictures rergarding the
> next generation Focus which I believe will be on sale in the UK later this
> year, but without much luck. I think Ford probably still have it tightly
> under wraps.
>
> Does anyone have any links to any information on the new Focus?
Have had a screening in germany earlier last month, cant say alot though
other than think of a C-Max turned back into a Focus. Its still a Focus, but
with a much higher quality look and feel to it.
If you have a look at the new Volvo S40 and imagine a Ford badge and more
hatchback-ie. That might give you a clearer picture, if you get what I mean.
If Vx think their new Astra handles well, they are gunna be quite miffed
when the new focus gets roadtested.... There will be a 4x4 version in all
probability but engine is un decided as yet. The volvo 5 cylinder turbo is
good, powerful and meets euro 4 emissions but volvo is yet unwilling to let
ford use it. So it may be a turbo-ed duratec 4 banger.
Tim..
MCC - 03 Apr 2004 12:12 GMT
"Honest John", a motoring correspondent for the Daily Telegraph, has a
short report on the new Ford Focus on his web site.
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/index.php?url=/carbycar/index.htm
Select Ford and then Focus II (from late 2004) and you'll get it.

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Basic Wedge - 03 Apr 2004 16:57 GMT
Short is right! No news there.
I like the styling of the current model. The coming model seems more
conservative. The Mazda 3 doesn't do it for me. I won't be able to afford
it, but I'm waiting to see how Volvo does with their version.
Rob
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> "Honest John", a motoring correspondent for the Daily Telegraph, has a
> short report on the new Ford Focus on his web site.
per - 03 Apr 2004 17:12 GMT
> Short is right! No news there.
>
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>
> Rob
The new Volvos are already there!
see:
http://www.volvocars.co.uk/
click on "new S40" and V50.
/per
per - 03 Apr 2004 17:06 GMT
" Tim (Remove NOSPAM." <the.farm@NOSPAMbtinternet.com> wrote in
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> The volvo 5 cylinder turbo is
> good, powerful and meets euro 4 emissions but volvo is yet unwilling to let
> ford use it.
> Tim..
Ford owns 100% of Volvo Cars.
Volvo cannot tell Ford they are "unwilling".
Ford on the other hand is clearly unwilling to use turbo engines in family
cars.
/per
Tim \(Remove NOSPAM. - 03 Apr 2004 18:12 GMT
> " Tim (Remove NOSPAM." <the.farm@NOSPAMbtinternet.com> wrote in
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> Ford on the other hand is clearly unwilling to use turbo engines in family
> cars.
I was talking specifically about the 4x4 cosworth version of the new Focus.
And yes, Volvo is "unwilling" to let Ford use their 5 pot to power it.
Tim..
per - 04 Apr 2004 10:01 GMT
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> Tim..
Volvo Cars have their relative freedom because they make a lot of money for
Ford.
But, if the 5 cylinder engine were of real strategic value for Ford branded
cars, they would have it this instant. American Ford are now using the large
Volvo P2 platform for new models, like the Ford Freestyle. I'm sure Volvo
may be "unwilling" regarding this too, but money talks and Ford is in
charge.
/per
Alan - 03 Apr 2004 00:33 GMT
In message <c4kdm201c3e@enews4.newsguy.com>, Martin <martin@home.com>
wrote
>I've been searching on the web for information and pictures rergarding the
>next generation Focus which I believe will be on sale in the UK later this
>year, but without much luck. I think Ford probably still have it tightly
>under wraps.
>
>Does anyone have any links to any information on the new Focus?
Why bother? From posts to this group the only people with major problems
are those who seem to have bought a car within the first year of launch.
If a new Focus is different to that with all the early bugs fixed why
risk buying something new and unknown - at a premium price?

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Dave Gower - 03 Apr 2004 00:39 GMT
> I've been searching on the web for information and pictures rergarding the
> next generation Focus which I believe will be on sale in the UK later this
> year, but without much luck. I think Ford probably still have it tightly
> under wraps.
>
> Does anyone have any links to any information on the new Focus?
I understand the European Focus will be similar to the Mazda3, which is now
on sale in some markets and has been written up in many places.
The North American 2005 Focus is closer to the old one (apparently Ford
decided that the Mazda3 was too heavy for use here). You can see info on it
on the Ford Canada website (but not, surprising, Ford U.S.A.)
Martin - 03 Apr 2004 11:03 GMT
> I understand the European Focus will be similar to the Mazda3, which is now
> on sale in some markets and has been written up in many places.
>
> The North American 2005 Focus is closer to the old one (apparently Ford
> decided that the Mazda3 was too heavy for use here). You can see info on it
> on the Ford Canada website (but not, surprising, Ford U.S.A.)
The Mazda3 is currently on sale in the UK and on my list of possible new
cars. I will be looking to change around July/August time, at the moment I
am leaning towards another Focus, but don't know whether to get the current
model or wait a bit longer for the new one.
On the one hand if you get the current model you will have a car that within
a short time will be the "old" Focus, but if I wait and buy the new one you
have to contend with all the teething problems new models seem to suffer
from, as a previous poster pointed out.
Martin
Justin Case - 03 Apr 2004 11:21 GMT
Here is a bit which I posted in February in relation to the Focus C-max.
This refers to a roadtest of the new Mazda 323 which is the same floorpan
etc. To have a report of the C-max being hard to handle in that it is very
finely tuned (ie to the limit of the "normal" driver PLUS to have another
write-up which criticises the handling of the Mazda would seem to me that
the design of the "floorpan" may not be quite right at the moment...
In case anyone is interested in reading the article, I repeat the bit I
posted previously here:-
Repeated portion:
Now this doubt about the handling. I have just got the Telegraph
Motoring email and there is a feature on the new Mazda 3 which is based
(with the Volvo S40 etc) on the "new" Focus floorpan.
The report is at
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2004/02/20/emfmaz21.xml
(I did start to quote from it but of course it is covered by copyright but
it mentions being let down by skittish handling, attempts to breakaway when
cornering only being saved by brutish efforts of the electronic stability
package to stop the slide and descriptions of the handling as both "tricky"
and "excitable").
Looks like Ford may be following Mercedes A class into a real
Moose/Mess?????????????????
At least it says that on country roads the "old" Focus will eat the new car
alive -
methinks this doesn't bode well for the new Focus
End of repeated portion
Justin Case
ps There were "spy" pictures of the new Focus undergoing trials on the
Channel 4 motoring section
> > I've been searching on the web for information and pictures rergarding
the
> > next generation Focus which I believe will be on sale in the UK later
this
> > year, but without much luck. I think Ford probably still have it tightly
> > under wraps.
> >
> > Does anyone have any links to any information on the new Focus?
>
> I understand the European Focus will be similar to the Mazda3, which is
now
> on sale in some markets and has been written up in many places.
>
> The North American 2005 Focus is closer to the old one (apparently Ford
> decided that the Mazda3 was too heavy for use here). You can see info on
it
> on the Ford Canada website (but not, surprising, Ford U.S.A.)