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Actieradius Ford Focus C Max 1800

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Pim Luchtmeijer - 12 Apr 2004 20:32 GMT
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Savelsberg" <savelsberg@home.nl>
To: "Pim Luchtmeijer" <airmill@tiscali.nl>
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: Boardcomputer Focus C-Max

> Beste Pim,
>
> Ik heb met mijn C-max 1800 (kenteken 3-2-04) dezelfe problemen als bij
jou.
> Ik heb in excel een schema bijgehouden v.w.b. het benzineverbruik, zie
> bijgevoegde bijlage.
> Zo zie je dat wij dezelfe problemen hebben: een onbetrouwbare
> boardcomputer.Als ik ga tanken is in de tank meestal ongeveer 10 liter
> branstof aanwezig.
> Het reserve lampje van de benzine meldt zich ook veel te vroeg.
Bijvoorbeeld
> (zie schema) op 15 maart 2003 denk je dat de tank bijna leeg is
(accuradius
> 40 km en de wijzer helemaal in het rode) blijkt er nog 9 liter brandstof
> aanwezig te zijn! Nog genoeg voor 90 km!
> Ik ben met deze problematiek naar de Ford dealer geweest en zij vertelde
aan
> mij dat ze op de hoogte zijn van deze niet functionerende boardcomputer.
> Ik hoop dat dit door Ford snel wordt opgelost, want dit irriteert mij
> mateloos!
>
> Groetjes,
>
> John
---- Original Message -----
> From: "Pim Luchtmeijer" <airmill@tiscali.nl>
> Newsgroups: alt.autos.ford.focus
> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 11:45 PM
> Subject: Boardcomputer Focus C-Max
>
> > Anyone having any trouble with their boardcomputer in  a Focus
C-Max(1800
> > First Edition)?
> > I have,my computer tells me that  my fuel level is low(60 kilometers to
> go)
> > and I must refill.
> > Ok.To my surprise there only goes 43 liters in my tank and the whole
tank
> > contains 55 liters,so I have a problem.
> > Also everytime I refill my tank the computer says 567 km to go before
> > refill(looks to me a very low capacity).
> > I told my dealer and recently they checked my computer but this didn't
> > help,the problem is the same,they told me that there were more Foci with
> the
> > same problem and that they will have to wait on what the techniciens of
> Ford
> > will say.Lucky for me there is more gas in my tank than my computer says
,
> > it could easily have been the other way around,but still!!!!
> > I bought my Focus in November 2003.Is Ford always this slow or do I have
> > just bad luck and has this car been produced on a monday morning?
> >
> > Grtz,
> > Pim Luchtmeijer(The Netherlands).
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Hey John,

Vandaag lange rit gemaakt(340 km) en wat schetst mijn verbazing , na tanken
actie-radius tot volgende tankstop: 632 km( dit is voor het eerst dat de
boardcomputer boven de 530 km uitkomt)  bij een gem.verbruik van 7,3 op 100
km.Nu is een rekensommetje snel gemaakt en kom ik uit op een residu in de
tank van ong.6 liter , hetgeen door meer Ford rijders is bevestigd.Het
begint er dus toch op te lijken dat mijn dealer gelijk had door te zeggen
dat de wagen op alle fronten nog moet inkomen!Moet ik toch maar vaker lange
ritten maken of maakt een zwaluw nog geen zomer?!?!?!

Groet,
Pim Luchtmeijer
twan1970 - 27 Apr 2004 09:30 GMT
Last February I bought a new C-max first edition. Un till now I very please
with the car w.r.t. driving, space flexibility interior etc.

Although I have also found several flaws w.r.t. Radio, Fuel indicator,
automatic wipers, frozen windscreen washers and interior lighting.

The radio standard CD 6000 has the following failures: When you start the
engine the radio starts to play but the display does not show any radio
channel info pressing just any button on the radio everything is working
perfect.
The radio has also the option RDS clock synchronization, but the
synchronized never happens no matter what RDS radio channels you listen
to.

The fuel indication in combination with the board computer is really a
yoke. As already stated in this forum. The fuel light starts to light when
there is still 10 liter of fuel available. The board computer gives the
indication tank empty but there is still 5 liters left and after filling
the tank the board computer still indicate tank empty, but after one press
on the board computer button, the indication is correct again.

The automatic sensor for the wipers is too less sensitive. If adjusted to
?1? most sensitive detection of rain and if it?s raining very light. The
wiper starts to wipe only after windscreen is complete filled with
raindrops. In this situation it?s very hard to see through the
windscreen.

In the winter season and when it has been freezing during the night it?s
impossible to use the windscreen washers although they are pre-heated, it
seem to be that some parts of the circuit has been frozen.

The last one is the interior lighting. If you start the engine and at the
same time you close the last door the interior light stays on forever.    

Last week on advice of the Ford dealer I took the car back for a check to
see if they could fix the open issues. Unfortunately the only thing they
could do is to readout the computer to see if error messages appear,
luckily they found two messages one was internal communication problem and
one from the radio.  Since there is no Software update available and Ford
only reacts on problems if 50 registers customers at ford have found the
same issues. So this can take a year before my problems will be fixed and
yours to.

My advice would be to go the Ford dealer to register your problems other
wise your problems will never be solved.

I would be nice to no if someone of you have the same problems with you
Focus C-max.

Twan
 
John Savelsberg - 27 Apr 2004 20:24 GMT
Hi,

I have the same problems with my C-Max, the fuel indication in combination
with the board computer is indeed a  yoke.
The fuel light starts to light when there is still 10 liter of fuel
available. The board computer gives the indication tank empty but there is
still 5 liters left and after filling the tank the board computer still
indicate tank empty, but after one press on the board computer button, the
indication is correct again.
I have contact with Ford dealer and they told me that the problems are
generally known about the boardcomputer. Ford hopes to solve this problem in
the next months.

John

> Last February I bought a new C-max first edition. Un till now I very please
> with the car w.r.t. driving, space flexibility interior etc.
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>
> Twan
Real_Oldman - 17 Apr 2007 12:46 GMT
Well looky here, I bought my Cmax in Feb 2005, and guess what RDS and Clock
do not work, Sure the clock runs but to it's own rules, not the 24hour clock
we know. RDS is completely non functional.
Now 2.4 years later, and three yes 3  new cd6000 units, the Ford dealers
customer services manager has just rang me to tell me the problem is one
known to Ford, has been known for at least 2 years, and the RDS feature is
disabled by Fords as it causes all sorts of problems with the on board
computer.
So Ford have known about this, do know about it yet they still see the car
with this piece of crap installed. So do I buy another Ford or do I buy a car
from a manufacturer who does not shade the truth or does apologise for
selling a car with a non functional RDS radio/ clock? Which is probably a
difficult thing to do.
A real grumpy old man is the least of my feelings.
Peter

>Hi,
>
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>> Twan
 
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