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I have a 2003 ZTW 2.0 zetec automatic and I can't do better than 20mpg I do mostly highway driving in the winter I do a mere 17 mpg some of you claim 30mpg with manual transmission. Car and Driver reported 25mpg after a long term roadtest of automatic 2001 SE Wagon I think these numbers are BS bottom line is I think people can't calculate MPG properly >I have a 2003 ZTW 2.0 zetec automatic and I can't do better than 20mpg > I do mostly highway driving [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > bottom line is > I think people can't calculate MPG properly I rented an automatic Focus 2.0 SE last year when visiting Canada. I beat the crap out of it in a mixture of mostly back-road driving and some highway and still averaged 7.5 - 8.0 l/100km, which is 29 - 31 USmpg. The calculation wasn't too difficult for someone with a PhD in mechanical engineering, so I have some confidence in my figures :-) Are you sure your handbrake isn't on? Seriously, those figures are way too low and point to an unhealthy car. actually 7.5 - 8.0 L/100km is 28.39 US/mpg and 30.28 US/mpg ---------------------------------------------------------- > >I have a 2003 ZTW 2.0 zetec automatic and I can't do better than 20mpg > > I do mostly highway driving [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > your handbrake isn't on? Seriously, those figures are way too low and point > to an unhealthy car. > actually 7.5 - 8.0 L/100km > is 28.39 US/mpg and 30.28 US/mpg Not to be pedantic, but 100 km is 62.137 mile, 7.5 L converts to 1.981 USgal, so 7.5L/100km would be 31.366 mpg. I erred on the conservative side... Stephen >> >I have a 2003 ZTW 2.0 zetec automatic and I can't do better than 20mpg >> > I do mostly highway driving [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Newsgroups > ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- Just passed 72,000 miles on my '01ZX3 5-speed. I keep a spreadsheet for mileage calculation by tank and overall. My driving is about half highway and half country roads. Overall mileage is 30.9 mpg. R**2 (Ron) what would an automatic do? 20mpg? > Just passed 72,000 miles on my '01ZX3 5-speed. I keep a spreadsheet for > mileage calculation by tank and overall. My driving is about half highway [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > (Ron) >what would an automatic do? >20mpg? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups >---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- On a slightly different theory, was cruise control on at any point. I watched a top gear once where the presenter drove an audi twin turbo diesel from london to edinburgh and back (approximatly 800 miles) on one tank of fuel. when he was on the motorway he set the cruise control to 60 (i think) and the car averaged 32mpg however if he switched off the cruise control and kept his speed constant manually he was making around 43mpg. We have noticed this on my fathers 2.2Td saab as well, cruise control is outrageously inneficient it would seem. Oh yeh he did it by the way, although 40 miles from london the computer told him that he had run out of fuel! Cruise was rarely on. Not very useful on the highways near the city; too much traffic. And I don't baby the car, I love to push it with "frisky" driving. Fun to toss around when the opportunity arises. Other things of note, since they have been hashed around here. I'm still on the original brakes, front and rear. The original Firestone tires gave me 61,000 miles. The only problems either not covered under a recall or normal wear and tear were a new clutch (I destroyed the original....) and the thermostat housing cracked. Nice of them to make it out of plastic! R**2 (Ron) :>what would an automatic do? :>20mpg? Should be much better than that. Earlier this year I sold an '02 ZX5 automatic to my brother so I could buy an '04 SVT 5 door. During the time I had the ZX5 around 90% of my driving was stop and go around town with around 50% of that with the AC running (I live in the Phoenix, AZ area...grin). For the whole time I had that car my gas mileage averaged out to a little over 26mpg. On trips to Orange, CA and Las Vegas, NV I averaged a little over 30mpg while running in the 80mph range most of the way. BTW, on my SVT Focus I'm doing slightly better even though it has amost 50% more horsepower. Obviously the 6 speed manual transmission helps. I averaged between 25 and 26mpg during the summer running the AC in stop and go intown driving. I got around 27 to 28mpg this spring running around town before it got hot and have been back up around that the last month or so when I've only had to use the AC a couple of times. I haven't made any long trips with this one yet but on a couple of short (200 mile) trips I've been around 28mpg with the AC and as high as 35mpg without the AC. me/2 :><ronrut@hotmail.com> wrote in message :>news:w57ed.27608$mn5.17099@bignews5.bellsouth.net... [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] :>> :>> (Ron) >I have a 2003 ZTW 2.0 zetec automatic and I can't do better than 20mpg > I do mostly highway driving > in the winter I do a mere 17 mpg There is something seriously wrong with either your driving habits or the condition of your vehicle. It's silly to say that you are the only one who can calculate gas mileage. > >I have a 2003 ZTW 2.0 zetec automatic and I can't do better than 20mpg > > I do mostly highway driving > > in the winter I do a mere 17 mpg > > There is something seriously wrong with either your driving habits or the > condition of your vehicle. nothing wrong with my driving......I'm no angel but not a leadfoot either. >It's silly to say that you are the only one who can calculate gas mileage. I'm pointing out that some people over exaggerate their fuel economy. also you can't compare auto to manual......fuel economy is different >...you can't compare auto to manual......fuel economy is different According to such respected authorities as Edmunds, automatic Foci get about 2 mpg less than equivalent manual ones. Look it up. My 2000 SPI gets close to the EPA ratings in when I convert from Canadian to U.S. measurements, except in winter when of course it drops off a few mpg. I am a fairly conservative driver and keep my vehicles in good shape. >I'm pointing out that some people over exaggerate their fuel economy. Please...... just because you are suffering from crap fuel consumption, don't accuse others of exaggerating theirs because it is a totally groundless assertion.  SignaturePaul Giverin British Jet Engine Website http://www.britjet.co.uk > >I'm pointing out that some people over exaggerate their fuel economy. > > Please...... just because you are suffering from crap fuel consumption, > don't accuse others of exaggerating theirs because it is a totally > groundless assertion. stick to the Jet engines Paul........this stuff is way over your head. > British Jet Engine Website http://www.britjet.co.uk > stick to the Jet engines Paul........this stuff is way over your head. Major a.shole, no idea why people even bother. <ploink> SignatureBezit en wijsheid zijn illusies/ possession and wisdom are illusions >> stick to the Jet engines Paul........this stuff is way over your head. >> >Major a.shole, no idea why people even bother. > ><ploink> He's not even worth plonking. He's one of these fuckwits with an axe to grind, who shows up, mouths off and then leaves when he realises no one is listening to him any more. SignaturePaul Giverin British Jet Engine Website http://www.britjet.co.uk > > stick to the Jet engines Paul........this stuff is way over your head. > > > Major a.shole, no idea why people even bother. I ask myself the same question. >> >I'm pointing out that some people over exaggerate their fuel economy. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >stick to the Jet engines Paul........this stuff is way over your head. Oh dear! Some village is missing its idiot. SignaturePaul Giverin British Jet Engine Website http://www.britjet.co.uk > >> >I'm pointing out that some people over exaggerate their fuel economy. > >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > Oh dear! Some village is missing its idiot. who's exaggerating now! spaceman > I'm pointing out that some people over exaggerate their fuel economy. > also you can't compare auto to manual......fuel economy is different If Your mileage with automatic transmission is less than 25 then something is wrong! SignatureKjell Harnesk > I have a 2003 ZTW 2.0 zetec automatic and I can't do better than 20mpg > I do mostly highway driving [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > bottom line is > I think people can't calculate MPG properly Just done 18000 miles in my 2001 Focus 1.6 Zetec Automatic. My petrol consumption has averaged out at 29.7 m.p.g. (UK gallons) And yes I do know how to calculate my petrol consumption. SignatureMCC > > I have a 2003 ZTW 2.0 zetec automatic and I can't do better than 20mpg > > I do mostly highway driving [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > My petrol consumption has averaged out at 29.7 m.p.g. (UK gallons) > And yes I do know how to calculate my petrol consumption. I know you can calculate your petrol in UK mpg but did you calculate your petrol consumtpion in US mpg you get 24.5mpg....... where you fuel economy now? and one other thing the topic concerns 2003, 2.0 zetec auto wagon..........not 2001, 1.6 zetec >>> I have a 2003 ZTW 2.0 zetec automatic and I can't do better than 20mpg >>> I do mostly highway driving [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups > ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- Sorry I spoke, I'm sure! SignatureMCC [snip] > > > some of you claim 30mpg with manual transmission. > > > Car and Driver reported 25mpg after a long term roadtest of > > > automatic 2001 SE Wagon ^^^^ > > > I think these numbers are BS [snip] > and one other thing > the topic concerns 2003, 2.0 zetec auto wagon..........not 2001, 1.6 zetec But your first post in this thread mentions a 2001! I have a 2001 wagon, automatic. US. Getting 25 is low, 27-28 is typical, and occasionally I get 30 mpg. In alt.autos.ford.focus corra <takeittogo@nospamhotmail.com>: > I have a 2003 ZTW 2.0 zetec automatic and I can't do better than 20mpg > I do mostly highway driving > in the winter I do a mere 17 mpg > some of you claim 30mpg with manual transmission. > Car and Driver reported 25mpg after a long term roadtest of automatic 2001 > SE Wagon > I think these numbers are BS > bottom line is > I think people can't calculate MPG properly 17-20 mpg (11.7-13.8 l/100 km), for sure this is possible if not a little more, on an almost empty highway it just takes about half an hour.;) My 2.0l manual usually guzzles about 9-9.5 l/100 km (25-26 mpg), the mentioned 30 mpg (7.8 l/100km) should be possible with a little care, not much more then 80 mph (130 km/h) on highways and not much city. But then you could have bought the 1.4l engine in the first place... SignatureMichael Heiming (X-PGP-Sig > GPG-Key ID: 0xEDD27B94) mail: echo zvpunry@urvzvat.qr | perl -pe 'y/a-z/n-za-m/' #bofh excuse 363: Out of cards on drive D: :>In alt.autos.ford.focus corra <takeittogo@nospamhotmail.com>: :>> I have a 2003 ZTW 2.0 zetec automatic and I can't do better than 20mpg [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] :>not much city. But then you could have bought the 1.4l engine in :>the first place... Not in the US he couldn't. The US station wagons (ZTW or SE) were only available with the 2.0 Zetec engine orginally and IIRC recently the 2.3 Duratec was added to the mix. I think with the US '05 models (not to be confused with the European '05 models) the Duratec is the only choice. Also, an automatic transmission was almost mandatory since the manual transmission was a special order only and most dealers only inventoried the automatic. BTW, I've got an '01 SE Wagon sitting out in the garage that my Dad bought new in May of '01. He died last year and was unable to drive the car much before then. At last check it only has around 6,000 miles on it. Anyway, that car has always had much better gas mileage figures than quoted by the OP. me/2 In alt.autos.ford.focus me/2 <null@127.0.0.1>: > :>In alt.autos.ford.focus corra <takeittogo@nospamhotmail.com>: > :>> I have a 2003 ZTW 2.0 zetec automatic and I can't do better than 20mpg [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > :>not much city. But then you could have bought the 1.4l engine in > :>the first place... > Not in the US he couldn't. The US station wagons (ZTW or SE) were > only available with the 2.0 Zetec engine orginally and IIRC recently [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > since the manual transmission was a special order only and most > dealers only inventoried the automatic. Ah, thx for the info, but my point was hopefully clear? > BTW, I've got an '01 SE Wagon sitting out in the garage that my Dad > bought new in May of '01. He died last year and was unable to drive > the car much before then. At last check it only has around 6,000 > miles on it. Anyway, that car has always had much better gas mileage > figures than quoted by the OP. As written, one can easily burn the mentioned figures in half an hour, but under normal usage there's something wrong, might be only far to low tire air-pressure, who knows.;) SignatureMichael Heiming (X-PGP-Sig > GPG-Key ID: 0xEDD27B94) mail: echo zvpunry@urvzvat.qr | perl -pe 'y/a-z/n-za-m/' #bofh excuse 418: Sysadmins busy fighting SPAM. >I have a 2003 ZTW 2.0 zetec automatic and I can't do better than 20mpg >I do mostly highway driving >in the winter I do a mere 17 mpg >some of you claim 30mpg with manual transmission. That sounds about average for US cars. >Car and Driver reported 25mpg after a long term roadtest of automatic 2001 SE Wagon >I think these numbers are BS No they aren't - it's about slightly below average. >bottom line is I think people can't calculate MPG properly I use a spreadsheet to calc :-) My 2004 ZX5 (.36 CD compared to .31 CD for the sedan means poorer mileage) and yet I am still getting 33.3 mpg (imperial gal) with about 60% highway mileage, air conditioner usually on or the moonroof open, speed of 120 kph (75 mph) -- yes I am a bit of a lead foot even on some of the shitiest roads imaginable and Canadian winters. I also have about 50 extra lbs of gear in the back on a permanent basis. This works out to roughly 27.7 mpg US so I would say C&D is *** CONSERVATIVE *** in their road test. If you can't get AT LEAST that on good roads doing 65 mph in the US, you do indeed have a serious problem. Either with your car or your arithmetic. My other experience with the same engine (all manuals): '98 ZX2 30.9 mpg '00 ZTS 29.4 mpg '03 ZX5 30.7 mpg '04 ZX5 33.3 mpg (more highway miles this year) I usually use 87 octane but for the first three cars I used a fair bit of 89 octane 5-10% ethanol added which means a LOWER gas mileage; Canadian winters mean 5 minute warm-ups to clean the snow/frost off, -35*C so I've got the seat heaters on and use the 4-season tires on snow. I have a 2001 Ford Focus , 2.0l Zetec engine, automatic transmission. I "drive" my car because I find that the Zetec with the Auto transmission is a bit sluggish unless you keep the revs up. I am getting 28-29 miles per imperial gallon around town and I have got as high as 40 mpg on the highway through BC last month. I did have a problem with lousy gas mileage about 2 years ago, took it into Ford dealer and they found a problem with one of the emissions control devices.. The fuel consumption does go up in the winter ,when it gets cold, but that is understandable. I did find that if you stop fuelling the car when the gas pump first clicks off, as Ford recommends in the handbook, you will be short fuelling the car by about 3 litres of gas. To do a proper gas mileage test I found that I had fuel the car till I could not get any more in the tank and do it over 5 - 6 tanks. That's the way I see it. I have a 2003 ZTW 2.0 zetec automatic and I can't do better than 20mpg I do mostly highway driving in the winter I do a mere 17 mpg some of you claim 30mpg with manual transmission. Car and Driver reported 25mpg after a long term roadtest of automatic 2001 SE Wagon I think these numbers are BS bottom line is I think people can't calculate MPG properly ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups > I have a 2001 Ford Focus , 2.0l Zetec engine, automatic transmission. > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > =============== My Daughter has a 1993 2.00 ZTW Automatic. She has 22,000 Kil. on it now. She drives 70% Highway and 30% City.Wow, that makes a 100%. GRIN! Her average mileage since she purchased the car has been 30.4 Imperial MPG (I check every tank for her and average it.) That includes the Canadian winter when we often get -25 c (Minus 13 F) Geoff I have a 2001 Ford Escape with the 2.0 litre Zetec engine and 5 speed stick shift. Although the Escape is heavier and larger than the Focus, I usually get between 21 (mostly city) to 28 (mostly highway per US gallon. This is close to the original numbers posted by the EPA. I also have a 2004 Focus ZX5 with the 2.3 PZEV engine and automatic. That's mostly used on the highway, but that only gets 28 tops so far, but isn't completely broken in yet. JPH >>I have a 2001 Ford Focus , 2.0l Zetec engine, automatic transmission. >> [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > when we often get -25 c (Minus 13 F) > Geoff > >>I have a 2001 Ford Focus , 2.0l Zetec engine, automatic transmission. > >> [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > > JPH ======== Nice! I have a '99 sable with the 3 litre Zetec (200hp) and the best I have ever got was 27 Imperial gallons on the Highway at about 120 Kph. And that's a car! It goes like a bat in hell though. Love it. Geoff There is no such engine as a 3 Litre Zetec. There is a Duratec 3 Litre - not even close to the Zetec a totally different engine design. ======== Nice! I have a '99 sable with the 3 litre Zetec (200hp) and the best I have ever got was 27 Imperial gallons on the Highway at about 120 Kph. And that's a car! It goes like a bat in hell though. Love it. Geoff > I have a 2001 Ford Escape with the 2.0 litre Zetec engine and 5 speed > stick shift. Although the Escape is heavier and larger than the Focus, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > That's mostly used on the highway, but that only gets 28 tops so far, > but isn't completely broken in yet. The combination of larger engine and automatic cuts fuel economy by 3 mpg (hwy) and 2 mpg (city) according to the EPA. EPA figures are 30 (hwy) and 24 (city) for an automatic 2.3L. Don My 2003 ZTW has settled at just under 32 mpg imperial or about 26.4 mpg US. This is over about three months since the 20000 Km. service. About half city and half highway driving. Mileage was worse prior to the service. Just after the service the mileage was even better than it is now. They told me they would be working on the brakes. I think they (the brakes) may be subject to binding and dragging (disks on all wheels on this model). The car has 25000 Km. on it. >> I have a 2001 Ford Focus , 2.0l Zetec engine, automatic transmission. >> [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] >when we often get -25 c (Minus 13 F) >Geoff The most of the gasoline pumps in Canada are "adjusted for temperature" (don't know about the U.S. or Europe) so how is one able to judge fuel economy. The pump is set to a mean temperature for 15 degrees C. So if the temperature is below 15C you get less volume of gas and above 15 degrees C you get closer to the real volume. The oil companies have used the argument for years that you are buying energy and not volume. Just like natural gas you are buying by energy not volume of gas. Everyone knows it bullshit, its like buying a piece of meat and it is being sold to you by the amount of protein it has. So how can you accurately judge MPG or KPL when the volume of fuel you put in your can is not consistent. My 2003 ZTW has settled at just under 32 mpg imperial or about 26.4 mpg US. This is over about three months since the 20000 Km. service. About half city and half highway driving. Mileage was worse prior to the service. Just after the service the mileage was even better than it is now. They told me they would be working on the brakes. I think they (the brakes) may be subject to binding and dragging (disks on all wheels on this model). The car has 25000 Km. on it. On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:13:20 -0400, "GP" <spamtrap@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> I have a 2001 Ford Focus , 2.0l Zetec engine, automatic transmission. >> [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] >when we often get -25 c (Minus 13 F) >Geoff > The most of the gasoline pumps in Canada are "adjusted for temperature" > (don't know about the U.S. or Europe) so how is one able to judge fuel [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > So how can you accurately judge MPG or KPL when the volume of fuel you put > in your can is not consistent. Volume changes of petrol with temperature are inconsequential when it comes to calculating economy. ------------ And now a word from our sponsor ------------------ Do your users want the best web-email gateway? Don't let your customers drift off to free webmail services install your own web gateway! -- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_webmail.htm ---- Not so! The pump says 20 litres but it only really pumped 19. The pump says 20 litres but it pumped 20.7. How can you accurately work out mpg or kpl.??? > The most of the gasoline pumps in Canada are "adjusted for temperature" > (don't know about the U.S. or Europe) so how is one able to judge fuel [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > So how can you accurately judge MPG or KPL when the volume of fuel you put > in your can is not consistent. Volume changes of petrol with temperature are inconsequential when it comes to calculating economy. ------------ And now a word from our sponsor ------------------ Do your users want the best web-email gateway? Don't let your customers drift off to free webmail services install your own web gateway! -- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_webmail.htm ---- > Not so! > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > web gateway! > -- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_webmail.htm ---- =================== If it wasn't adjusted by temerature you would have an even bigger variation in quantity of gas. Don't fret about a couple of ounces?ml Geoff > Not so! > > The pump says 20 litres but it only really pumped 19. The pump says 20 > litres but it pumped 20.7. How can you accurately work out mpg or kpl.??? The difference in density of gasoline between 0?C and 20?C is about 2%, so I wouldn't worry so much about the effect this has on your calculations for the sake of tracking economy. Also, as you said, since the volume delivered at the pump is temperature-adjusted, you are always buying the same amount of total energy. A litre of gasoline dispensed at 20?C and then cooled to 0?C will occupy a smaller volume (hopefully nothing evaporates!) but it still has the same total amount of energy, so when a driver in Canada in the winter compares his fuel economy in L/100km with someone in sunny Spain, they are at least comparing apples with apples. Your comparison to meat is not relevant. Meat's value is subjective, and the size of the piece of meat is important, not the total protein content. However, the total energy content of the unit of gasoline which I purchase is the only important, objective thing, and the only fair system for selling gasoline is to have temperature compensation. If a pump in Alaska and a pump in Florida both sold a gallon of gasoline from a non-temperarture-compensated pump for $1.60, then ignoring for the moment other factors which influence economy which are not related to the gasoline, the driver in Alaska is going to travel farther on his $1.60 than the driver in Florida, because his "gallon" of gasoline has more energy. Therefore, the fact that pumps are adjusted for temperature is a *requirement* to calculate a meaningful and consistent fuel economy figure. Personally, I'd love to buy chilled gasoline pumped into a sealed fuel system, because I could go further on a tank. Formula One tried this until they banned the practice. Stephen >> The most of the gasoline pumps in Canada are "adjusted for temperature" >> (don't know about the U.S. or Europe) so how is one able to judge fuel [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > comes > to calculating economy. ------------ And now a word from our sponsor --------------------- For a secure high performance FTP using SSL/TLS encryption upgrade to SurgeFTP ---- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_surgeftp.htm ---- Here all gas station tanks are buried in the ground, the temperature of the pumped gas will thus vary much less then the air temperature. /per > > Not so! > > [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > upgrade to SurgeFTP > ---- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_surgeftp.htm ---- where did you get 4 wheel disc on 2003 ZTW usa or europe? no more 4 wheel disc on 2003 ZTW in Canada > My 2003 ZTW has settled at just under 32 mpg imperial or about > 26.4 mpg US. This is over about three months since the 20000 Km. [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > >when we often get -25 c (Minus 13 F) > >Geoff >where did you get 4 wheel disc on 2003 ZTW >usa or europe? > >no more 4 wheel disc on 2003 ZTW in Canada Really?? it's still available on the ZX5. I can't imagine it not being available on other models. You get it with the Advanced Trac - in fact the Advance trac doesn't work without getting 4 wheel disc brakes. Sorry not to get back quicker, I have been busy. Four wheel disks were a part of the Advanc Trac (1,775 CDN) option. It seems that it dissapeared in 2004 along with the 16" wheels, the 205 tires and a number of other things that made it a really nice package in 2003. I think they want to force folks who want that kind of equipement to go to the Mazda wagons which of course cost more (and are still pretty much Fords). >where did you get 4 wheel disc on 2003 ZTW >usa or europe? [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] >http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups >---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- My 03 USA ZTW had 4WDBs SignatureRapid Rick "Just drive, baby" > where did you get 4 wheel disc on 2003 ZTW > usa or europe? [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > Newsgroups > ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- My 2000 zx3 gets about 19 miles per gallon in the city (L.A.). CAFE states that I should get about 25 miles in the city. The CAFE regulations are out of date. The US government tests milage, as if one is driving at 22 miles per hour in the city and 48 miles on our freeways....no stop and start, but keeping at a steady speed. Pay little attention to the so-called milage promises on any car. > I have a 2003 ZTW 2.0 zetec automatic and I can't do better than 20mpg > I do mostly highway driving [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups > ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- I have never gotten 30mpg on my 2001 focus zts with zetec. The times I have checked the milage, I have gotten 25mpg with 80% highway. I got 30 a couple times during highway trips. Piddling around here in the frozen north I average around 20-22. SignatureRapid Rick "Just drive, baby" >I have never gotten 30mpg on my 2001 focus zts with zetec. The times > I have checked the milage, I have gotten 25mpg with 80% highway. > I got 30 a couple times during highway trips. Piddling around here in the > frozen north I average around 20-22. > > "Alex Kondovski" <alexkondovski@yahoo.com> wrote in message > >I have never gotten 30mpg on my 2001 focus zts with zetec. The times > > I have checked the milage, I have gotten 25mpg with 80% highway. John just did a mileage calculation for the 373 miles he drove today down here in the flat lands of the Maryland eastern shore in his 2003 ZX3 manual transmission with over 180,000 miles on the clock. 43.071 MPG ! None of those miles were driven faster the 55 MPH, more the half were driven at 50 MPH or less. Weather was dry temperature in the mid 60s. I was about to post a massage this morning of the 40.324 MPG I calculated for the same run I did last thursday but I wasn't to sure if I had the numbers correct. SignatureJohn in the sand box of Marylands eastern shore. |
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