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Rich - 14 Feb 2008 04:29 GMT
Funny, no one did ANYTHING until the protectionist EuroTRASH
complained.  The U.S. has complained about this for DECADES.

China suffers first defeat at WTO
Chinese car plant
Foreign-made car parts are in a less favourable position, says the WTO
China has had its first defeat at the World Trade Organization (WTO),
in a case centred on restrictions on the importation of foreign-made
car parts.

Upholding a complaint from the European Union, Canada and US, the
preliminary WTO finding agrees that current Chinese practice is
protectionist.
Jan Andersson - 14 Feb 2008 11:46 GMT
> Funny, no one did ANYTHING until the protectionist EuroTRASH
> complained.  The U.S. has complained about this for DECADES.
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> preliminary WTO finding agrees that current Chinese practice is
> protectionist.

Excuse me for butting in, but I'll have to say the US economy is one of
the most protectionist ones I know... it is insanely difficult to bring
new products into the US, IF there is already a comparable domestic
product on the market. The government will bury many such attempts under
so much red tape it delays the market launches by YEARS in some cases.
Jan Andersson - 14 Feb 2008 11:51 GMT
>> Funny, no one did ANYTHING until the protectionist EuroTRASH
>> complained.  The U.S. has complained about this for DECADES.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> product on the market. The government will bury many such attempts under
> so much red tape it delays the market launches by YEARS in some cases.

Same can be said for products that are new to the US market, but seen as
 something that would become extremely successful. The government
delays the process enough so that domestic companies get a chance to
develop their own competing products, and even saturate the market
before the foreign product is allowed in. Seen that happen too. THere is
potential for big money, so they do what they can to make sure that
money stays in the US.

I'm not saying it's not smart business, it may be... it could also be
shortsighted and for sure it is protectionist, which of course is deemed
illegal or unacceptable by international standards, as we are seeing
with the China example in this thread.

All I'm saying is that the US does it too. And I'm sure countless other
countries as well.
Spike - 15 Feb 2008 17:14 GMT
SNIP

>develop their own competing products, and even saturate the market
>before the foreign product is allowed in. Seen that happen too. THere is
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>All I'm saying is that the US does it too. And I'm sure countless other
>countries as well.

Have spent much of my life residing in foreign lands, I would ask
first that you really investigate what you are saying. Japan is a
major example pf protectionism. You also forget that the US economy is
swimming upstream in a river where government subsidization of
everything from agriculture to basketweaving. French wines, and so
much more. The US can not be blamed for trying, even in a small way,
to protect what we have. The worst area of loss is, or so it appears,
intellectual properties. Try to do business in a large number of
nations and you had better be prepared to pay off the right people.
It's a way of life to them. And if you get caught, the US government
comes down on you for paying it even though it was the only way to get
your product introduced.
pakeha@not.a.real.address.com - 15 Feb 2008 02:48 GMT
>> Funny, no one did ANYTHING until the protectionist EuroTRASH
>> complained.  The U.S. has complained about this for DECADES.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>product on the market. The government will bury many such attempts under
>so much red tape it delays the market launches by YEARS in some cases.

Try to get a simple product into Japan, you don't know the meaning of
"Protectionism"...

SteveL
Rich - 15 Feb 2008 15:30 GMT
On Feb 14, 9:48 pm, pak...@not.a.real.address.com wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:46:39 -0500, Jan Andersson
>
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>
> SteveL

the Europeans have a "siege mentality" when it comes for foreign
products, they are convinced if they let too many in, they are
doomed.  The Orientals are even worse, thinking that the white devil's
products are not only a threat, but inferior as well.
Jan Andersson - 15 Feb 2008 16:13 GMT
> On Feb 14, 9:48 pm, pak...@not.a.real.address.com wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:46:39 -0500, Jan Andersson
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> doomed.  The Orientals are even worse, thinking that the white devil's
> products are not only a threat, but inferior as well.

Something is inferior to the chinese quality? <grin>

I think it is safe to say that any country that has any production of
it's own, is protectionist to some degree.

Likewise, I think it is hypocritical for any country or a collection of
countries to blame another for being protectionist.

They all do it, some just are more arrogant and pen about it or simply
get caught. :)
Rich - 15 Feb 2008 15:28 GMT
On Feb 14, 6:46 am, Jan Andersson <bugf...@REMOVErocketmail.com>
wrote:
> > Funny, no one did ANYTHING until the protectionist EuroTRASH
> > complained.  The U.S. has complained about this for DECADES.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> new products into the US, IF there is already a comparable domestic
> product on the market.

Suuuureee it is.  That's why they have a $250B trade deficit.
 
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