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Michael Johnson - 15 Feb 2008 21:25 GMT
I decided to put my 1989 LX 5.0L on ebay and see what happens.  I never
thought this day would come but I really think it is time to move on to
a newer Mustang.  I need to get rid of the old one first since I don't
have the garage space for two cars that would be basically "toys" for
the most part.  Here's a link:  http://tinyurl.com/2acoet
Zodness - 15 Feb 2008 23:17 GMT
>I decided to put my 1989 LX 5.0L on ebay and see what happens.  I never
>thought this day would come but I really think it is time to move on to a
>newer Mustang.  I need to get rid of the old one first since I don't have
>the garage space for two cars that would be basically "toys" for the most
>part.  Here's a link:  http://tinyurl.com/2acoet

Good looking and all the good kind of mods, The KB blower is great! there is
a place in San Antionio that sells modded stangs and yours seems in the
right price range with what they have for sale, perhaps a little low
considering all the stuff you have on it, it is a good deal.   Auto Trader
is good too.
Michael Johnson - 16 Feb 2008 00:00 GMT
>> I decided to put my 1989 LX 5.0L on ebay and see what happens.  I never
>> thought this day would come but I really think it is time to move on to a
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> considering all the stuff you have on it, it is a good deal.   Auto Trader
> is good too.

Thanks.  It is a blast to drive and the T-56 tranny is what Ford should
put in every manual Mustang, IMO.  The last time I had it on a dyno it
made 460 ft-lbs of torque at the wheels at 2,500 rpm and stayed over 400
ft-lbs to red line.  Having that kind of torque available makes for a
very fun ride.  I really have spent too much money on the car.
dwight - 16 Feb 2008 00:23 GMT
>I decided to put my 1989 LX 5.0L on ebay and see what happens.  I never
>thought this day would come but I really think it is time to move on to a
>newer Mustang.  I need to get rid of the old one first since I don't have
>the garage space for two cars that would be basically "toys" for the most
>part.  Here's a link:  http://tinyurl.com/2acoet

Dude...

Blue Book is less than $2,000 for that car. Who the hell would want a
19-year-old beater? Doesn't even have front wheel drive, for god's sake.

If it doesn't sell, I'll give you $1,000 and take it off your hands.

dwight
www.tfrog.com
Michael Johnson - 16 Feb 2008 00:34 GMT
>> I decided to put my 1989 LX 5.0L on ebay and see what happens.  I never
>> thought this day would come but I really think it is time to move on to a
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>
> If it doesn't sell, I'll give you $1,000 and take it off your hands.

Move the decimal point to the right one position and we can talk.
Joe - 16 Feb 2008 00:34 GMT
> I decided to put my 1989 LX 5.0L on ebay and see what happens.  I never
> thought this day would come but I really think it is time to move on to
> a newer Mustang.  I need to get rid of the old one first since I don't
> have the garage space for two cars that would be basically "toys" for
> the most part.  Here's a link:  http://tinyurl.com/2acoet

You traitorous rat bastard!  I thought you were going to leave it to me in
your will...  ;)
Michael Johnson - 16 Feb 2008 00:47 GMT
>> I decided to put my 1989 LX 5.0L on ebay and see what happens.  I never
>> thought this day would come but I really think it is time to move on to
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> You traitorous rat bastard!  I thought you were going to leave it to me in
> your will...  ;)

Stand in line.  I have youngsters in the family that are very upset with
me right now.  They thought it would be one of theirs one day too.  The
trouble with them is they have ridden in (and in some cases even driven)
the car and know how well 460 ft-lbs of torque can light up the rear
wheels and pin you back in the seat during hard acceleration.
Joe - 16 Feb 2008 13:26 GMT
>>> I decided to put my 1989 LX 5.0L on ebay and see what happens.  I
>>> never thought this day would come but I really think it is time to
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> up the rear wheels and pin you back in the seat during hard
> acceleration.

Seriously, I'd keep it.  A car like that is a family heirloom, not to
mention a real fun toy.
Michael Johnson - 16 Feb 2008 15:33 GMT
>>>> I decided to put my 1989 LX 5.0L on ebay and see what happens.  I
>>>> never thought this day would come but I really think it is time to
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> Seriously, I'd keep it.  A car like that is a family heirloom, not to
> mention a real fun toy.

I want a convertible and I simply don't have the space in the garage for
two cars.  Plus, the newer cars are very good performers and in reality
are just better cars period.  It also helps that I really like the looks
of the new Mustangs.
Zodness - 16 Feb 2008 16:52 GMT
>>>>> I decided to put my 1989 LX 5.0L on ebay and see what happens.  I
>>>>> never thought this day would come but I really think it is time to
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> are just better cars period.  It also helps that I really like the looks
> of the new Mustangs.

New ones have air bags both sides, smother ride. And all the parts are new.
I did not like the throttle response of the new ones, nor the drone of the
muffler. Perhaps 09 ??   Few  like to ride in my 93  5.0  8#  (modded ex cop
car) because suspension is stiff, and is too quick for them. Scares most
people. I like it. Rough and fast, somewhat not new inside, and cheap faded
blue paint shot over the black and white.  (except for the performance type
of people).  Great around town fast.

MJ's 89 is a good deal, as all the work is done, drive it for a few years
for fun, sell it later.
Michael Johnson - 16 Feb 2008 23:37 GMT
>>>>>> I decided to put my 1989 LX 5.0L on ebay and see what happens.  I
>>>>>> never thought this day would come but I really think it is time to
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> I did not like the throttle response of the new ones, nor the drone of the
> muffler. Perhaps 09 ??   Few  like to ride in my 93  5.0  8#  (modded ex cop

Poor throttle response on the new cars is a common complaint.  Thottles
on the new ones are controlled by electronics and not an actual cable
connection from the accelerator pedal to the throttle body.  The after
market tuners chips can resolve this issue through revisions to the
computer programming.  Actually, the new Stangs get 20-30 rwhp from a
custom tune and better drivability to boot.

> car) because suspension is stiff, and is too quick for them. Scares most
> people. I like it. Rough and fast, somewhat not new inside, and cheap faded
> blue paint shot over the black and white.  (except for the performance type
> of people).  Great around town fast.

The fox Mustangs are really a throw back to the late 60s and early 70s
muscle cars, IMO.  They are fun to drive and tough as hell.  What is
driving me to get a new one is that I have had convertibles on and off
since I was in college and haven't owned one for 4-5 years and really
want another one.

> MJ's 89 is a good deal, as all the work is done, drive it for a few years
> for fun, sell it later.
Joe - 17 Feb 2008 14:21 GMT
>>>>>>> I decided to put my 1989 LX 5.0L on ebay and see what happens.
>>>>>>> I never thought this day would come but I really think it is
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>> MJ's 89 is a good deal, as all the work is done, drive it for a few
>> years for fun, sell it later.

So Michael, what are you thinking about?  A garden-variety GT
convertible, or something a bit more exotic?
Michael Johnson - 17 Feb 2008 15:20 GMT
>>>>>>>> I decided to put my 1989 LX 5.0L on ebay and see what happens.
>>>>>>>> I never thought this day would come but I really think it is
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> So Michael, what are you thinking about?  A garden-variety GT
> convertible, or something a bit more exotic?

Well, I would prefer a GT500 convertible but I just can't justify the
premium they have put on them.  I am leaning toward a Mustang GT or
maybe one of the specialty Mustangs like a Bullit and then eventually
putting a Kenne Bell kit on it.  I won't go hog wild with the mods
again.  The KB kits are complete and well done cost about $4,000-$5,000
which really is a bargain for the power it delivers.  A GT with a KB kit
delivers performance nearly on par with a stock GT500 and for $15k-$20k
less considering the price of GT500 convertibles.

This being said I will look at all the convertibles in the mid $30k to
mid $40k range.  I'm really not that interested in mega horsepower and
just want enough to make it a decent performer, something that can run a
low 14, high 13 second 1/4 mile.  I will consider other things like
handling, build quality, fit and finish, ergonomics etc.  Until I drive
some cars it is hard to say which way I will go.  The Mustang does
provide a lot of car for the money though so I think it has the initial
edge.  Especially considering the after market performance parts it has
available.
dwight - 17 Feb 2008 18:32 GMT
>>>>>>>>> I decided to put my 1989 LX 5.0L on ebay and see what happens. I
>>>>>>>>> never thought this day would come but I really think it is
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> for the money though so I think it has the initial edge.  Especially
> considering the after market performance parts it has available.

I was really impressed with the V6 convertible I rented out in Phoenix. No,
not for its power or performance, but purely with the convertible top.
Compared to my '93 GT, Ford got it right. And stealing a trick or two from
BMW didn't hurt.

dwight
Michael Johnson - 17 Feb 2008 18:52 GMT
>>>>>>>>>> I decided to put my 1989 LX 5.0L on ebay and see what happens. I
>>>>>>>>>> never thought this day would come but I really think it is
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> Compared to my '93 GT, Ford got it right. And stealing a trick or two from
> BMW didn't hurt.

I know the SN95 Mustangs had a much better convertible top too.  They
really don't have a big downside like they used to in that they rarely
leak and provide great sound and thermal insulation.  One thing I want
to check into are some of the hard top convertibles.  That is like
having your cake and eating it too.
Ed White - 16 Feb 2008 01:06 GMT
>I decided to put my 1989 LX 5.0L on ebay and see what happens.  I never
>thought this day would come but I really think it is time to move on to a
>newer Mustang.  I need to get rid of the old one first since I don't have
>the garage space for two cars that would be basically "toys" for the most
>part.  Here's a link:  http://tinyurl.com/2acoet

It is a very nice looking car. However, it is my guess you won't be able to
sell it on Ebay. The success rate on Ebay is pretty low, and I think with a
$10k opening level, it is going to be hard to for an individual seller to
generate any interest. When I looked tonight, there were 41 1989 Mustangs on
Ebay, and yours had the highest listed price of any non Saleen / non
convertible 1989 Mustang.  The mods are very valuable, but I think you are
going to need to find a real enthusiast to get full value. The problem with
Ebay is that you get a very limited time window. Autotrader or Cars.com will
leave the ad up for a very long time, which works in your favor. Craig's
List is a great deal too....

I spent almost a year shopping for a late model 2 seat Thunderbird on Ebay
before I finally found one that was a "deal." During that time I tracked the
sales of similar cars and only about 1 in 20 sold on the first try. Two
years later when I decided to sell the T bird, I tried Ebay, but got
nowhere. Eventually I sold it off an Autotrader Ad (interestingly to a Ford
Dealer).

Good luck.

Ed
RD Jones - 16 Feb 2008 01:36 GMT
> "Michael Johnson" <c...@erols.com> wrote in message
>
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> >the garage space for two cars that would be basically "toys" for the most
> >part.  Here's a link:  http://tinyurl.com/2acoet

> It is a very nice looking car. However, it is my guess you won't be able to
> sell it on Ebay. The success rate on Ebay is pretty low, and I think with a
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> leave the ad up for a very long time, which works in your favor. Craig's
> List is a great deal too....

Just an observation ...
Another deal killer may be "no cats".
It rules out at least one whole highly populated state, and most large
cities.
Has it ever passed a sniff-test ?

I agree that most mods made to cars don't increase the selling value.
In other words you don't get back your 'investment' ;->

Nice car BTW, I also have an '89 LX5.0, completely stock.

rd

'01 green Bullitt, 100% original.
Michael Johnson - 16 Feb 2008 01:54 GMT
>> "Michael Johnson" <c...@erols.com> wrote in message
>>
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> cities.
> Has it ever passed a sniff-test ?

It was licensed in a state that had no emissions or safety inspections.

> I agree that most mods made to cars don't increase the selling value.
> In other words you don't get back your 'investment' ;->

I'm not even asking for half of what I spent on modifications.  If it
doesn't sell then part of me won't be all that disappointed.

> Nice car BTW, I also have an '89 LX5.0, completely stock.
Michael Johnson - 16 Feb 2008 01:56 GMT
>> I decided to put my 1989 LX 5.0L on ebay and see what happens.  I never
>> thought this day would come but I really think it is time to move on to a
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>
> Good luck.

I put it on ebay because they had a great deal for listing autos last
week.  I will put it in a local trader if it doesn't sell.
The Wolf With the Red Roses - 16 Feb 2008 02:34 GMT
>I decided to put my 1989 LX 5.0L on ebay and see what happens.  I never
>thought this day would come but I really think it is time to move on to
>a newer Mustang.  I need to get rid of the old one first since I don't
>have the garage space for two cars that would be basically "toys" for
>the most part.  Here's a link:  http://tinyurl.com/2acoet

Not to me, and not at that price.
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Michael Johnson - 16 Feb 2008 02:58 GMT
>> I decided to put my 1989 LX 5.0L on ebay and see what happens.  I never
>> thought this day would come but I really think it is time to move on to
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>>
> Not to me, and not at that price.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion.
elaich - 16 Feb 2008 04:03 GMT
> Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Well, you asked "will it sell?" so you were asking for opinions, right?

Gainesville, VA... wow, does that take me back. I grew up in NOVA in the
50s/60s, and Gainesville was just a blinking light on 29-211. I can just
imagine what it looks like now compared to then.

I wish you the best, but I don't think you'll sell it at that price. You
must realize that most Mustang enthusiasts are either for the original
models, or the late model retros. The Fox bodied 4 eyes and aero styles are
really kind of a bastard child in the lineage, and it takes a real Fox body  
freak to appreciate them. I wouldn't give up my '83 GT for anything, but
I'm one of those Fox freaks. :)
Michael Johnson - 16 Feb 2008 04:18 GMT
>> Everyone is entitled to an opinion.
>
> Well, you asked "will it sell?" so you were asking for opinions, right?

Someone once told me that many times it isn't what you say but how you
say it that is important.

> Gainesville, VA... wow, does that take me back. I grew up in NOVA in the
> 50s/60s, and Gainesville was just a blinking light on 29-211. I can just
> imagine what it looks like now compared to then.

You wouldn't recognize the place now.  Imagine 10,000+ new homes and
hundreds of acres of shopping centers and that is what is here today.

> I wish you the best, but I don't think you'll sell it at that price. You
> must realize that most Mustang enthusiasts are either for the original
> models, or the late model retros. The Fox bodied 4 eyes and aero styles are
> really kind of a bastard child in the lineage, and it takes a real Fox body  
> freak to appreciate them. I wouldn't give up my '83 GT for anything, but
> I'm one of those Fox freaks. :)

The car will sell to someone that knows their way around modding a
Mustang in a serious nature.  Too many have no clue as to the cost and
work associated with putting a seriously modified car together.  I'm not
looking for those that a) don't have the money to spend and b) doesn't
know the true value of the modifications.  Price out the mods I have
listed and consider the good condition the car is in and any serious
buyer will know the price is more than reasonable.  If someone is
looking to steal it then they need to move on.  I don't have to sell it
and there are plenty of other venues available to market it.  One way I
could probably sell it quickly, and for more money, is to get it
licensed and take the prospective buyer for a ride.

I really want a convertible and the redesigned Mustangs are supposed to
be here for the 2009 model year.  The Fox car has been good to me but
I'm ready for something newer.
bml - 27 Mar 2008 22:40 GMT
> ...
...

> The car will sell to someone that knows their way around modding a
> Mustang in a serious nature.  Too many have no clue as to the cost and
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> buyer will know the price is more than reasonable.  If someone is
> looking to steal it then they need to move on. ...

True, except the person you describe is very picky about the details
of the mod.  Their "perfect" car will be somewhat different even if
they
have similar views of what to do to that car.  Also, they would want
to
do it themselves - isn't part of the fun of owning a modified car the
trading of stories with other owners?  You would not have much fun
at a gathering if your answer to every question about the car is "I
bought
it that way."

B
Michael Johnson - 27 Mar 2008 23:14 GMT
>> ...
> ...
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> bought
> it that way."

The car has to be licensed and road worthy before it will sell, IMO.
I'm actually glad it is still in the garage but having a new GT in there
wouldn't upset me either.  I am going to remove the blower and a few
other parts and sell them on ebay or locally.  Then get the car running
N/A and maybe make another run at selling it.  Then again, once it is on
the road I may not be able to bring myself to sell it and I will be back
on the original plan of installing 351W stroker engine.
NoOption5L@aol.com - 22 Feb 2008 03:33 GMT
> I decided to put my 1989 LX 5.0L on ebay and see what happens.  I never
> thought this day would come but I really think it is time to move on to
> a newer Mustang.  I need to get rid of the old one first since I don't
> have the garage space for two cars that would be basically "toys" for
> the most part.  Here's a link:  http://tinyurl.com/2acoet

Mike,

As good as the new Mustang is, can I still say keep your old '89?
Yes, I can.  You have a sweetheart of a car, Mike... don't let it go.
If you're truly on the fence about selling it,  read the latest
Hemming's Mustang Machines -- it features original owners and the cars
they've held on to.  Cool stuff.

Patrick
Michael Johnson - 22 Feb 2008 16:21 GMT
>> I decided to put my 1989 LX 5.0L on ebay and see what happens.  I never
>> thought this day would come but I really think it is time to move on to
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> Hemming's Mustang Machines -- it features original owners and the cars
> they've held on to.  Cool stuff.

It wasn't an easy decision to put it on ebay.  It did not sell so it is
still in the garage.  Driving the car is like putting on an old pair of
blue jeans.  If I had it licensed and on the road I probably wouldn't
have tried to sell it.
NoOption5L@aol.com - 23 Feb 2008 01:05 GMT
> > Mike,
>
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> > Hemming's Mustang Machines -- it features original owners and the cars
> > they've held on to.  Cool stuff.

Correction:  Hemming's Muscle Machines.

> It wasn't an easy decision to put it on ebay.  It did not sell so it is
> still in the garage.  Driving the car is like putting on an old pair of
> blue jeans.  If I had it licensed and on the road I probably wouldn't
> have tried to sell it.

You'll never get out of it what you put into it or what it's truly
worth.  You don't know anyone with an ol' garage/barn you can stick it
in?

Patrick
Michael Johnson - 23 Feb 2008 18:41 GMT
>>> Mike,
>>> As good as the new Mustang is, can I still say keep your old '89?
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> worth.  You don't know anyone with an ol' garage/barn you can stick it
> in?

I won't buy another Mustang until the fate of the '89 is known.  I have
been known to change my mind quite often.
The Wolf With the Red Roses - 24 Feb 2008 06:18 GMT
>>> I decided to put my 1989 LX 5.0L on ebay and see what happens.  I never
>>> thought this day would come but I really think it is time to move on to
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>blue jeans.  If I had it licensed and on the road I probably wouldn't
>have tried to sell it.

But you didn't try to sell it.  You tried to get your money back.  It
is a labor of love, which has to find a new lover.  One day some time
some where a guy with a chub & a wad will ask you a question, and
you'll give him an answer.  On the way home you stifle a little
sniffle and look for your next project.  So it goes with all of em.
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Michael Johnson - 24 Feb 2008 15:09 GMT
>>>> I decided to put my 1989 LX 5.0L on ebay and see what happens.  I never
>>>> thought this day would come but I really think it is time to move on to
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> you'll give him an answer.  On the way home you stifle a little
> sniffle and look for your next project.  So it goes with all of em.

The biggest reason the car may not sell is that it isn't licensed.  It
is the test drive that will sell it.  I can also remove the blower and
sell many of the speed parts individually and make as much if not more
than my current asking price.

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