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Should Ford Counter This?

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NoOption5L@aol.com - 19 Mar 2008 02:28 GMT
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ort_Truck_Preview.S275.A13936.html


Patrick
Falcon Guy - 19 Mar 2008 02:54 GMT
> http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehicle_Reviews/Pickup_Trucks/2010_Pontiac_G8_Sp
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> Patrick

Sure with a Falcon Ute.

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dwight - 19 Mar 2008 03:11 GMT
>> http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehicle_Reviews/Pickup_Trucks/2010_Pontiac_G8_Sp
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> http://www.ford.com.au/servlet/ContentServer?cid=1137384335636&pagename=FOA%2FDF
YPage%2FDefault1024&c=DFYPage

I was never a fan of the car/truck crossbreed. But can I get a G series
shipped over to the States?

dwight
WindsorFox<SS> - 19 Mar 2008 03:42 GMT
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> dwight

   In a word, no.

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Jim Warman - 19 Mar 2008 03:28 GMT
Ummmm.. this is going to be a sink or swim.... I'd rate it right up there
with the Fiero, the Soltice and other niche vehicles....

The Mustang lives on... and still in RWD configuration.... Obviously, this
is a big niche....

Some people would buy it.... Hell, people buy the Honda Element and that
unGodly Toyota thingie.... Question is.... will enough people buy it to make
it a profitable variation on a platform... or will it be a white elephant?

> http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehicle_Reviews/Pickup_Trucks/2010_Pontiac_G8_Sp
ort_Truck_Preview.S275.A13936.html

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> Patrick
Kruse - 19 Mar 2008 11:37 GMT
> Ummmm.. this is going to be a sink or swim.... I'd rate it right up there
> with the Fiero, the Soltice and other niche vehicles....
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> unGodly Toyota thingie.... Question is.... will enough people buy it to make
> it a profitable variation on a platform... or will it be a white elephant?

What was that camper-looking thing Pontiac had a few years ago? They
couldn't sell it and it
was butt ugly. Of course, if it was foreign branded it would have
given everybody a woodie.
When the Miata was super hot, Ford came out with the Australian-made
Capri. Remember that?
It didn't last very long and the build quality wasn't too good either.
I think this thing would have to sell real good before Ford came out
with another competitor for it.
Scott W. - 20 Mar 2008 00:43 GMT
> What was that camper-looking thing Pontiac had a few years ago? They
> couldn't sell it and it
> was butt ugly.

The Aztek
Ashton Crusher - 19 Mar 2008 07:16 GMT
>http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehicle_Reviews/Pickup_Trucks/2010_Pontiac_G8_Sp
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>Patrick

They should bring out a modernized version of the original Falcon
based Ranchero.
Jim Warman - 19 Mar 2008 07:46 GMT
Unfortunately, there has to be a "why"....

Are we going to haul a camper with this puppy? Maybe a 30 foot fifth wheel?
Don't think so...

Without buyers in sufficient quantity, there is no profit... if there is no
profit... what's the use?

>>http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehicle_Reviews/Pickup_Trucks/2010_Pontiac_G8_Sp
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>>Patrick
>
> They should bring out a modernized version of the original Falcon
> based Ranchero.
Ashton Crusher - 20 Mar 2008 07:25 GMT
>Unfortunately, there has to be a "why"....
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>> They should bring out a modernized version of the original Falcon
>> based Ranchero.

Why??  Because they look neat.
Jim Warman - 20 Mar 2008 07:45 GMT
Hey... I still like the look of the Plymouth Prowler.... They "looked neat".
Unfortunately, people base their purchasing decisions on more esoteric
criteria....

I bought an 05 Mustang convertible... as a "toy", it fulfills all
expectations... It's a passable "grocery getter" - my loving bride is all
smiles when she drives it. As a car, it isn't really "sensible".... How many
adults are going to fit in the back seat.... especially considering that the
love of my life and I are both around 6 foot... I'm not about to put the
dogs ( a Cocker and a BIG Shepherd ) in there.... Not about to put a trailer
hitch on it...

My SuperCrew does most of the things I need... a little wimpy with the
holiday trailer on the back..... but we all have our crosses to bear....

As far as "useful" goes... the Mustang falls flat on it's face.... But it is
a wonderful toy....

>>Unfortunately, there has to be a "why"....
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> Why??  Because they look neat.
Frank ess - 20 Mar 2008 17:40 GMT
> Hey... I still like the look of the Plymouth Prowler.... They
> "looked neat". Unfortunately, people base their purchasing
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> a BIG Shepherd ) in there.... Not about to put a trailer hitch on
> it...
[ ... ]

> As far as "useful" goes... the Mustang falls flat on it's face....
> But it is a wonderful toy....

I agree with that. Now, if they'd make a Mustang Ranchero ...

Or, a two-door Mustang Kammback ...

Yeah, toy, fun, woo hoo.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2216/2227132656_6301f801dd.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/200/517072339_91870de022_o.jpg
Fun!  ..........
Photo by F. Mako Koiwai

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Ashton Crusher - 22 Mar 2008 07:03 GMT
>> Hey... I still like the look of the Plymouth Prowler.... They
>> "looked neat". Unfortunately, people base their purchasing
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>Fun!  ..........
>Photo by F. Mako Koiwai

Here's an old ad.  Did anyone ever actually see the "sedan delivery"
version??

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1266/1353266901_f8bbce2f2a_o.jpg
WindsorFox<SS> - 22 Mar 2008 14:34 GMT
>>> Hey... I still like the look of the Plymouth Prowler.... They
>>> "looked neat". Unfortunately, people base their purchasing
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> http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1266/1353266901_f8bbce2f2a_o.jpg

 OMG it's a Falcon Ranchero with a built-in steel camper! Although the
phrase "Full-time economy" tells me that the Aussie idea of a Falcon is
way different than the US idea was.

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Frank ess - 22 Mar 2008 17:34 GMT
>>> Hey... I still like the look of the Plymouth Prowler.... They
>>> "looked neat". Unfortunately, people base their purchasing
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> http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1266/1353266901_f8bbce2f2a_o.jpg

That's a neat advert. Thank you.

I had the '62 Ranchero. Marvelous tool. A local owner of a similar car
had taken the top off a station wagon and made a tonneau cover for the
bed of his.

I never saw asedan delivery, that I remember, but have an Aussie
"Trax" model of one, as well as one of the the Ranchero, and several
station wagons. And one Argentinian "Buby" model of a Falcon sedan.
They were apparently made there at least as late as 1973.

"The Falcon model was presented by Ford in 1960 as a contribution to
the 'compact car' tendency of that time. By reason of its conservative
design, Ford Motors of Argentina produced it for almost 30 years,
period which included plenty of stylling changes and improvements in
its performance. This model represents a '73 version, which make it a
unique Ford worldwide."

http://www.flickr.com/photos/fyougitive/sets/72157604203345203/ set of
Falcon model photos.

I have a couple of Sedan Delivery photos from
alt.binaries.pictures.autos, but they are beyond reach at the moment.

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Frank ess - 19 Mar 2008 19:41 GMT
>> http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehicle_Reviews/Pickup_Trucks/2010_Pontiac_G8_Sp
ort_Truck_Preview.S275.A13936.html

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>> Patrick
>
> They should bring out a modernized version of the original Falcon
> based Ranchero.

I've said and believe: if you could find a brand-new 1963 Falcon
Ranchero you'd be set for life, two-seat car-wise. One of those and a
nice four-door Station Wagon from the same era. What else could you
ask for? Modern materials and technology? That'd be good.

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Frank ess

Scott W. - 20 Mar 2008 00:42 GMT
>>http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehicle_Reviews/Pickup_Trucks/2010_Pontiac_G8_Sp
ort_Truck_Preview.S275.A13936.html

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>>Patrick
>
> They should bring out a modernized version of the original Falcon
> based Ranchero.

If they do it here in the States they need to bring over the Falcon Ute from
down under. That Falcon Ute GT is a SCARY beast.

Scott W.
'68 Ranchero 500, 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof, 400W
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Joe - 19 Mar 2008 12:42 GMT
> http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehicle_Reviews/Pickup_Trucks/2010_Pont
> iac_G8_Sport_Truck_Preview.S275.A13936.html
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> Patrick

As a 2-door it's too much of a niche vehicle to succeed IMO.  As a 4-door
with a shortened bed, it would blow the Ridgeline off the planet.  Taking
it a step further, I could easily see it as a crossover with a fully-
enclosed rear and 3rd row seating.

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