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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / July 2009

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Dick R. - 28 Dec 2008 19:17 GMT
Back in the late 80s early 90s, Mustang 5.0s were popular
with some law enforcement agencies. The Minnesota highway
patrol had a number of unmarked, black Mustang 5.0s. People
soon became aware of these vehicles, and would always watch
of them. It was amazing how courteous other drivers would be
when I was driving my black Capri 5.0!

Dick
ND - 30 Dec 2008 00:58 GMT
Capri's were 4 eyed hatchbacks. I am surprised, I never saw a SSP hatch only
notchbacks and most were aero lights '87-93. Kudo's to you. I love the fox
body Stang's and Capri's.

I bet we see another Police vehicle on the newer model Mustang.

Nick :)

> Back in the late 80s early 90s, Mustang 5.0s were popular
> with some law enforcement agencies. The Minnesota highway
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> Dick
Dick R. - 30 Dec 2008 01:46 GMT
> Capri's were 4 eyed hatchbacks. I am surprised, I never saw a SSP hatch only
> notchbacks and most were aero lights '87-93. Kudo's to you. I love the fox
> body Stang's and Capri's.
>
> I bet we see another Police vehicle on the newer model Mustang.

Hi Nick,
My Capri is what some folks would call a "bubble back" - a hatchback
with a large rear window. It still fooled a lot of motorists.
I remember driving on a 2 lane road in Wisconsin, when some kid made
an very unsafe pass. I hit the brakes because I saw the oncoming car.
The oncoming car was a police 5.0 Mustang, and he made an immediate
u-turn and caught up with, and stopped the kid. As I drove by, I gave the
officer a thumbs-up!

Dick
veegerNOSPAM@snowcrest.net - 12 Jan 2009 17:11 GMT
>Back in the late 80s early 90s, Mustang 5.0s were popular
>with some law enforcement agencies. The Minnesota highway
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>Dick

Ford got a LOT of PR mileage out of those cop cars. Calif paid $7K per
unit. Ford wrote off the rest as advertising. And it worked. People
were buying 5.0s left and right. Of course, most of those buyers
didn't realize the difference between a simple 5.0 and an SSP.
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Ashton Crusher - 14 Jan 2009 04:57 GMT
>>Back in the late 80s early 90s, Mustang 5.0s were popular
>>with some law enforcement agencies. The Minnesota highway
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>were buying 5.0s left and right. Of course, most of those buyers
>didn't realize the difference between a simple 5.0 and an SSP.

I doubt they were selling them for $7K.  Lots of state patrols were
buying those vehicles.  And the SSP, which I assume you mean the
police package, on those cars didn't amount to much at all.  In terms
of performance it was no different then any other Mustang 5.0.  There
were a few extras you could order for the SSP like Silicone hoses and
perhaps a higher output alternator.  The seats were not even extra
reinforced and most of them broke from the weight of the officers. The
basic car in any form was very dependable and could easily stay in
service to 150K.
veegerNOSPAM@snowcrest.net - 14 Jan 2009 22:10 GMT
>>>Back in the late 80s early 90s, Mustang 5.0s were popular
>>>with some law enforcement agencies. The Minnesota highway
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>basic car in any form was very dependable and could easily stay in
>service to 150K.
I believe you are correct. California paid $4K per unit.
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Ashton Crusher - 15 Jan 2009 05:04 GMT
>>>>Back in the late 80s early 90s, Mustang 5.0s were popular
>>>>with some law enforcement agencies. The Minnesota highway
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>>service to 150K.
>I believe you are correct. California paid $4K per unit.

$4K each is even more difficult to believe.  I suppose they made it up
in volume.
veegerNOSPAM@snowcrest.net - 16 Jan 2009 20:05 GMT
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>>I believe you are correct. California paid $4K per unit.
>
>$4K each is even more difficult to believe.  I suppose they made it up
>in volume.

They made it up in advertising. California was the first state to jump
on the offer. Ford used CHP in their print ads (can't recall if they
were used in film ads or not- think I was overseas at the time). The
balance of the cost was written off as advertising costs - legitimate
deduction for the books. They got a LOT of mileage out of the
advertising. Other governmental agencies picked up on the deal,
and the public ate it up.
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tyndareus - 22 Jun 2009 13:27 GMT
Hi all--

I looking to buy 2010 mustang. Based on my budget I am limiting my
choices to a V6 premium or a base GT.  What options would you advise to
include and exclude on both models?

Thanks very much.
Mach1 - 22 Jun 2009 18:00 GMT
Buy it the way you want, not what someone else wants.  A better way is to
ask a question about a specific option or option package.

> Hi all--
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> Thanks very much.
Frank ess - 22 Jun 2009 22:09 GMT
I have to agree with that; however, I would add that my experience
with 2005+ Mustangs (that's years 2005 and newer, not more than two
thousand and five different cars!) might be useful to someone who
hasn't had a recent product of the Flat Rock Folks.

I had a 2006 V6 Premium automatic. It was really nice, and if I hadn't
had a lot of interest in handling characteristics, stock would have
been a good enough car for daily driving and pleasant cruises. As it
was, I added springs, shocks, sways, wheels and tires, and it was
SUPER nimble and a canyon carver deluxe; not so good in the
ride-quality area, but passable. Power was more than adequate for
ordinary uses, and my son-in-law the master autocrosser could really
make it fly.

I also liked the sound of the dual exhaust better than the V8 sound,
on a sensual scale. The V6s don't get the credit they deserve. GT
sways and dual exhaust make them 80% more enjoyable with no other
changes.

The Premiums usually come with enough options that there isn't much in
the way of factory options really worth adding, for my uses.

Underlying it all is the question: do you want to have a base to build
on or do you want to buy and enjoy. I would not hesitate to go for the
V8 base if there is any possibility that you'll be thinking "I could
have had a V8". Your base GT will be a little quicker than the others
that are option-laden. After a couple years of the V6, which I really
liked and was satisfied with, when I had a chance to get another
Mustang, I took the V8. Just because I wanted to have the V8. Mine is
a little heavier than base in the option list (GT/CS), but basically
the fact of V8 power is the only thing you can't get in a Premium V6,
with a little industry and ingenuity. Finally, when I felt the need
for an automatic convertible, I again chose the GT/CS, for its
features and power (and it gets better MPG than the V6 I had!).

Speaking to the order-options I would not want to do without:
the Comfort group, which includes the power-adjustable passenger seat,
because my wife is altitudinally challenged, and can hardly see out
without it, or a cushion.

I'm not much of a music-in-the-car listener. I like the sound of
driving too much to have it on when I'm rolling, and when the car is
parked, I'm not driving, so I'm not in it to listen. I understand the
Shaker 1000 is forty-five pounds of useless drag for people like me.
Satellite radio was nice out in the wide-open spaces of West Texas,
but otherwise, useless expense, for us.

Come to think of it, unless you have other special interests or needs,
that's about it. They all are good at what they do; plenty to like in
every one of them. Only you know your requirements and needs. Most of
what isn't on the basic car is icing on the cake. Pick what you like
and need, and enjoy it.

PS: Black and White are the fastest colors.

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> Buy it the way you want, not what someone else wants.  A better way
> is to ask a question about a specific option or option package.
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>>
>> Thanks very much.
Topo Gigio - 05 Jul 2009 16:42 GMT
> Hi all--
>
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>
> Thanks very much.

I would get a 2009 GT base, if you can find one, for $23,500 then
customize it the way you want. That is what I did.

Or you can get a 2009 GT premium for $26,500 and have the dealer install
Ford Racing suspension and cold air intake along  with a short throw
shifter. This will give you the equivalent of a Shelby GT for about
$28,500 and it still keeps the full factory warrantee. That is what I
wish I did.

If you really must have a 2010 be ready to pay near sticker price of
$30,000 for a base. The only option I would suggest is the GT all others
are up to you. The GT  gives you so much more standard, ABS, traction
control, limited slip, Z tires, heavy duty transmission, heavy duty axle
and one sweet 300 hp engine. I get 26 MPG highway with mine.
 
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