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CINDY: Wanted to know what was up my a.s
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SVTKate - 24 Jun 2004 20:19 GMT Previously a tribute to Ronald Reagan
Cindy Do you REALLY want to know what pissed me off? Ok, here's the list: This was a thread in tribute to a president that many people admired myself included. You spoke disrespectfully regardless of the subtly of your statement what you said was in poor taste. You wouldn't do that at a funeral, would you? I hope not... but I don't know. You may feel that your comment was not harsh but to people that are grieving it was. President Reagan was not perfect we all know that. He was a great president though and I had a lot of respect for him and Mrs. Reagan. When you came into the thread with your remark it was bad timing because I was grieving the loss of someone that meant a lot to me in many ways. He was governor while I was growing up and the first election I was ever able to vote in he was the president I voted for.
Ok, so then there is the issue I have taken with your generalization of Southern folks. You should BE so lucky as to have neighbors like mine. Your ever so quick backstep to say that your family came from the south then you tried clarify that you meant to just insult me. Well, I can take it, but it is just that you classify people into one group or another before you think about it.
I am absolutely sick to death of your anti-gun bullshit. Until you have taken the time to get to know the people and have involved yourself in shooting sports so that you have an CLUE about what you are talking about then you have absolutely no business spouting off. If you had any idea who I am and how I behave while I am carrying a firearm you would most certainly pipe down. You know damn good and well that I am not the type of person with a "go blow a hole in someone" attitude. The only time you ever see me carrying a gun is either locked in a case on the way to or from the range, out to the back field where I can shoot or if I am traveling alone. I have taught many children including my own about gun safety and adults both male and female. I have given all the help I can to anyone who is interested in safe weapons handling and have handed out literature at our National Night Out block parties to help folks know what the laws are and how to protect their children from getting their hands guns and what they should do if a friend has one. So don't you start talking your liberal know nothing BULLSHIT to me lady until you have an idea what you are talking about. It's the few morons out there that commit crimes with guns that give guns a bad name. No one ever mentions all of the honest folks that obey the laws and never hurt a soul. Just because we tease and joke around about some things doesn't mean we are serious about it. I would say that you have shot yourself in the foot more than once on this subject.
As far as the rest, lets just talk about stupid, repetitive questions. The most recent example is "How much would I have to pay in taxes and fees if I bought a car out of state"? Anyone with half a brain would call DMV, but nooooooooo not YOU. When someone here suggested you do just that, you got shitty with them.
I don't spend a lot of time in here these days, I am too busy working here at the place but I'll tell you, if I still lived in California I would love to come argue this out face to face with you.
I do not represent what RAMFM is. I represent myself. One person with one car, an interest in Mustangs in general and an opinion that I think anyone is entitled to. Once again you are trying to classify a group of people by the actions of a single person. You need to stop doing that. It's all wrong. If you don't like me, fine with me. No big deal. It's all just words on a computer screen to people that we don't know and probably never will.
Thank God we left California, and we did because of people exactly like YOU and your single minded opinion of how the world should be. If it doesn't suit YOU then it's wrong and you think you need to change it to the way YOU want it to be. I say Live and let live until you step on my toes and piss me off. You did that, you stepped out of place and didn't have the character to admit that you were wrong and just continued on trying to shove your opinion down everyone else's throats while acting the wounded little miss innocent.
Bad news. The whole world doesn't work that way. I am not going to put up with your lip and I am not going to kiss your a.s to shut you up. Whine and scream and cry all day, I'm still not going to put up with it.
Don't go away, just stop generalizing and use your common sense. Hell, I'm not here much anymore so just ignore me and I'll go away. Honest.. just pretend I'm not here.
Kate
It's "one nation under God", I like it that way.
"Cindy" <bugabooman@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:siPzc.72336$My6.50309@fed1read05...
| Jesus christ, Kate, what is up your a.s? I've never said a thing to you, | always respected your knowledge and suddenly you turn on me like rabid dog!
| If YOU represent what ramfm is (and it looks that way to me) then I'm going
| elsewhere. | | Cindy | | "SVTKate" <SVTKate@excite.competitive> wrote in message | news:6TMzc.397$bs4.80@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... | > and YOU are a ditz. | > | > "Cindy" <bugabooman@hotmail.com> wrote in message | > news:mFvxc.27871$My6.18271@fed1read05... | > | You're so dense it's fascinating. | > | | > | Cindy | > | | > | "ZombyWoof" <Zomby-Woof@Zappa.net> wrote in message | > | news:bvvcc0p4v1i0kjmmfp789mdee49s7s9e2m@4ax.com... | > | > On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 08:47:30 -0700, "Cindy" <bugabooman@hotmail.com> | > | > wrote something wonderfully witty: | > | > | > | > >Um, excuse me, I wasn't criticizing anybody! Ever hear of FREEDOM OF
| > | SPEECH? | > | > > | > | > >I think you both need to chill out! | > | > > | > | > >Cindy | > | > > | > | > You ever heard of having some respect for the dead or a modicum of | > | > class? There is a time & a place for everything. You apparently | > | > aren't aware of that either. | > | > > | > | > >"ZombyWoof" <Zomby-Woof@Zappa.net> wrote in message | > | > >news:05k8c01q73vg1eg89j0kbgs7ou52d0i8v1@4ax.com... | > | > >> On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 11:18:51 GMT, "SVTKate" | > | > >> <SVTKate@excite.competitive> wrote something wonderfully witty: | > | > >> | > | > >> >Cindy and Steve.. | > | > >> >ever hear the old saying: | > | > >> > | > | > >> >"If you cant say something nice, don't say anything at all" ? | > | > >> > | > | > >> >There's a time and a place for criticism, this isn't it. | > | > >> > | > | > >> >Kate | > | > >> > | > | > >> Could not agree more. Nothing quite like picking on the dead. | > | > >> -- | > | > >> | > | > >> You can run, but you'll only die tired. | > | > >> | > | > >> ZombyWoof | > | > | > | > -- | > | > | > | > You can run, but you'll only die tired. | > | > | > | > ZombyWoof
memset@recorddeal.com - 24 Jun 2004 20:38 GMT I think I pooped myself.
> Previously a tribute to Ronald Reagan > [quoted text clipped - 140 lines] > | > | > > | > | > ZombyWoof WindsorFox[SS] - 25 Jun 2004 00:29 GMT > I think I pooped myself. TMI !!!
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Rein - 25 Jun 2004 00:26 GMT >Previously a tribute to Ronald Reagan > >Cindy >Do you REALLY want to know what pissed me off? Ok, here's the list: >This was a thread in tribute to a president that many people admired myself >included.
>I am absolutely sick to death of your anti-gun bullshit. >Until you have taken the time to get to know the people and have involved [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >most certainly pipe down. You know damn good and well that I am not the type >of person with a "go blow a hole in someone" attitude. The only time you Most (99.9%) of gun owners are good people, otherwise we would have a shooting on every corner of every street. People who say these things just don't know the facts. Recent studies in England showed the more gun control, the more violence there was. Average Joe is dis-armed, and the crooks have the guns now.
>ever see me carrying a gun is either locked in a case on the way to or from >the range, out to the back field where I can shoot or if I am traveling [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >nooooooooo not YOU. When someone here suggested you do just that, you got >shitty with them. easy now, let's stay friendly in here.
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ZombyWoof - 29 Jun 2004 04:55 GMT >>Previously a tribute to Ronald Reagan >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >in England showed the more gun control, the more violence there was. >Average Joe is dis-armed, and the crooks have the guns now. If you changed your statement to "Most (99.9%) of legal gun owners are good people" I would have to agree pretty much 100%. It is the illegal owners that cause most of the problems.
There was also a study done in Australia after they basically outlawed gun ownership which showed violent crime greatly increasing after the restrictions on private ownership went in place.
In Florida when they changed the laws governing getting a conceal weapons permit to the point where almost any non-convict citizen could obtain one if they so desired, violent crimes took a significant decline. Interesting trends all in all.
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WindsorFox[SS] - 25 Jun 2004 00:29 GMT > Previously a tribute to Ronald Reagan <snipped and saved for future reference>
> Don't go away, just stop generalizing and use your common sense. Hell, I'm > not here much anymore so just ignore me and I'll go away. Honest.. just [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > It's "one nation under God", > I like it that way. Yes, she really showed her true colors and even got indignant and insulting when I said I didn't care to be lumped into her Southerner definition. I really try to keep the thought that MOST Democrats are not loud and obnoxious, and do not do things like generalize and call names such as nickle Moore does, it's just that the few that are really loud seem like more because they are more noticable.
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Gill - 25 Jun 2004 01:16 GMT > Previously a tribute to Ronald Reagan I work with a bunch of Liberals and they always spout off the same wimpy-assed crap. Stop the war, tax the rich, feed the drunk on the bus stop bench. I'm glad that I don't have the urge to go out and chant slogons for some dying wood tick. I saw the Environmentalists get a big chunk of the the oil industry kicked out of central California, and now people are blaming Bush for all the lost jobs? Is it just me, or was he in office long enough to cause the Dot Com Crash? No President is perfect, but the office is looked up to by children, and I say Reagan was a good example. I agree with you Kate, and I too will be leaving Cali. I hope the North West is a cool place for me to find some tracks to race, both my Stang and my Go-Kart. Also look forward to some fishing and plinking.
SVTKate - 26 Jun 2004 12:37 GMT Don't miss an opportunity to investigate the south too Gill. But I do understand your loving the northwest, it is wonderful there.
| > Previously a tribute to Ronald Reagan | [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] | is a cool place for me to find some tracks to race, both my Stang and my | Go-Kart. Also look forward to some fishing and plinking. JD Adams - 25 Jun 2004 03:36 GMT Kate:
Once again, I stand in awe of your intellectual prowess. If Clear Channel Communications knew about you, they would BEG you to replace Rush in a heartbeat.
Up until now, I had not contemplated the state of your political consciousness. Now that I have, I may need to cover the front of my trousers with a large book.
-JD
Ralph Snart - 25 Jun 2004 05:14 GMT > Kate: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > -JD TOO....MUCH....INFORMATION!
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2.3Sleeper - 25 Jun 2004 09:55 GMT > Kate: > > Once again, I stand in awe of your intellectual prowess. If Clear Channel > Communications knew about you, they would BEG you to replace Rush in a > heartbeat. CCC can go to hell. I wish I could boycott them but I would be able to listen to any radio stations if I did.
> Up until now, I had not contemplated the state of your political > consciousness. Now that I have, I may need to cover the front of my trousers > with a large book. She packs man, she packs. Better get a second chance plate.
Don Manning
> -JD JD Adams - 26 Jun 2004 03:01 GMT ** She packs man, she packs. Better get a second chance plate.
Hell, I'm lovin' it. Good grief: a gal who packs and has both an opionion and a working brain. Where the HELL do I get in line for one of those???????
I am encouraged about the future of Mankind just knowing someone like Kate exists.
-JD
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| ** She packs man, she packs. Better get a second chance plate. | [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] | | 4-point K-frame Brace, Tremec T-45 & OEM 3.27:1 Gears | | |________________________________________________________| JD Adams - 26 Jun 2004 17:01 GMT ** Now stop that, I smell smoke and I think YOU are blowin it up my dress JD ** Women like me are very hard to live with, ask my husband.
I believe it. I too, am an unbearable SOB. I'm overeducated, opinionated, long-winded, and it doesn't take much to push my buttons. However, under that crusty exterior beats the heart of a Warrior, and under yours I'm sure, lies a woman of great sensitivity and passion.
How's THAT for blowin' smoke? Don't change - we love ya just the way you are.
-JD
SVTKate - 26 Jun 2004 17:43 GMT the funny thing is JD, I think you and I could have been buddies LOL
| ** Now stop that, I smell smoke and I think YOU are blowin it up my dress JD | ** Women like me are very hard to live with, ask my husband. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] | | -JD Just Me \ - 29 Jun 2004 06:06 GMT Sounds like he wanted more than be your buddy! Your Husband is in the way though! ;-) Just an attempt to interject some humor!
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> the funny thing is JD, I think you and I could have been buddies LOL > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > | > | -JD SVTKate - 29 Jun 2004 14:06 GMT Hey Koi! I was just thinking of you yesterday! We have spent the last few days working down by the pond and I was wishing you were here so I could have you teach me everything you know :)
I would love to ask you some "pond" questions! We even found a clutch of turtle eggs down on the dam, it was pretty exciting, looks like our pond turtles are makin babies! We even have one good sized snapping turtle down there, I would say he is about 15" long in the shell. I have tried and tried to get a good photo of him but he is pretty shy.
Kate
| Sounds like he wanted more than be your buddy! Your Husband is in the way | though! ;-) Just an attempt to interject some humor! [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] | > | | > | -JD Ralph Snart - 29 Jun 2004 14:46 GMT How about cottonmouths? Seen any of them yet? I had a pond behind my house in South Carolina, and I'd kill 3-5 cottonmouths a year (these are aggressive snakes - not like copperheads or rattlers - they will try to get away but a water mocassin is very aggressive and will actually chase people).
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> Hey Koi! > I was just thinking of you yesterday! We have spent the last few days [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > | > | > | > | -JD memset@recorddeal.com - 29 Jun 2004 18:37 GMT Omg hell yes they'll chase people. I was fairly distant from one... maybe 15ft-20ft.. back at my old house when I lived w/ my parents.. and that f.cker came straight at me & some friends. Would not stop. I remember running as far & as fast and I could. It went down a hill & back up another (a creek) straight after us. Scared the life outta me. I was just a kid.. but still... there have been a few other occurances too, but none nearly as aggressive as that time.
-Mike
> How about cottonmouths? Seen any of them yet? I had a pond behind my house > in South Carolina, and I'd kill 3-5 cottonmouths a year (these are [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > | > | > > | > | -JD SVTKate - 29 Jun 2004 22:10 GMT Now, THAT would scare the F out of me! Time to put a scabbard on my Husky!
| Omg hell yes they'll chase people. I was fairly distant from one... maybe | 15ft-20ft.. back at my old house when I lived w/ my parents.. and that [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] | > > | > | | > > | > | -JD ZombyWoof - 29 Jun 2004 18:37 GMT >How about cottonmouths? Seen any of them yet? I had a pond behind my house >in South Carolina, and I'd kill 3-5 cottonmouths a year (these are >aggressive snakes - not like copperheads or rattlers - they will try to get >away but a water mocassin is very aggressive and will actually chase >people). Down in Florida I saw a water skier fall into a nest of those beasties. Poor girl started thrashing around like she was being electrified. When the rescue workers pulled her body from the lake it looked like she had gone through a barb-wired fence she was so tore up.
Sorry for the disgusting post, but god I hate snakes. Never went swimming in freshwater again after that.
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66 6F HCS - 29 Jun 2004 19:39 GMT > Wind > In my hair [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > The blur of the landscape, > Every nerve aware. Nice sigline. I haven't heard any good Rush lately. Too bad the poem is about a Ferrari!!
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ZombyWoof - 30 Jun 2004 11:59 GMT On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:39:48 -0600, "66 6F HCS" <92bottledance_spammit_@comcast.net> wrote something wonderfully witty:
>> Wind >> In my hair [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Nice sigline. I haven't heard any good Rush lately. Too bad the poem is >about a Ferrari!! They were just here (Virginia Beach) for their 30th anniversary tour and I got to see them live. Unbelievable show.
The only thing wrong with a Ferrari is I can't afford one. It is still a good general driving/riding poem.
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2.3Sleeper - 02 Jul 2004 06:01 GMT > >How about cottonmouths? Seen any of them yet? I had a pond behind my house > >in South Carolina, and I'd kill 3-5 cottonmouths a year (these are [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Sorry for the disgusting post, but god I hate snakes. Never went > swimming in freshwater again after that. If that scares you then stay out of the ocean. A sea snake carries enough venom to kill 300 people in one bite...IIRC.
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> Wind > In my hair [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > --ZombyWoof-- 2.3Sleeper - 02 Jul 2004 06:05 GMT Here ya go. I think I was a bit off base on my the estimation of its bite.
http://www.aloha.com/%7Elifeguards/critters.html#seasnake
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> > >How about cottonmouths? Seen any of them yet? I had a pond behind my > house [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.709 / Virus Database: 465 - Release Date: 6/23/2004 John - 02 Jul 2004 11:58 GMT I got my scuba certification in the Middle East. Lots of sea snakes in the Arabian Sea and not so much in the India Ocean. As long as you stayed out of their way or gently deflect them when they are on a collision course with you, no problem. Just don't mess with them when they are making babies. They get mean then, and will definitely attack! Otherwise, they don't bother you . . . . so I don't have any up my a.s!
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> > >How about cottonmouths? Seen any of them yet? I had a pond behind my > house [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.709 / Virus Database: 465 - Release Date: 6/23/2004 SVTKate - 29 Jun 2004 22:09 GMT We killed 4 snakes earlier this spring. Two black snakes and two that were swimming across the water. Hubby thinks they may have been cottonmouths, but hit them so hard with the shotgun that there was no head left on one and the other was kind of hard to tell after it came back up to the surface a few days later.
Kate
| How about cottonmouths? Seen any of them yet? I had a pond behind my house | in South Carolina, and I'd kill 3-5 cottonmouths a year (these are [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] | > | > | | > | > | -JD Ralph Snart - 29 Jun 2004 23:28 GMT Now you're going to prove Cindy's stereotype of southeners shooting things!
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> We killed 4 snakes earlier this spring. Two black snakes and two that were > swimming across the water. Hubby thinks they may have been cottonmouths, but [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > | > | > | > | > | > | -JD SVTKate - 30 Jun 2004 17:53 GMT LOL I thought of that, let me just say
"We pause this Southern Stereotype...."
*wink*
Kate
| Now you're going to prove Cindy's stereotype of southeners shooting things! | [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] | > | > | > | | > | > | > | -JD WindsorFox[SS] - 30 Jun 2004 20:55 GMT > LOL > I thought of that, let me just say [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Kate Have you started sucking crawfish and saying "y'all" yet??
SVTKate - 01 Jul 2004 12:27 GMT Hon, I was doin THAT before I left California! I was raised in the uppermost part of California, Cowboys, Quarter Horses & Timber. There's not a lot country these folks will be able to teach me.
Kate
| > LOL | > I thought of that, let me just say [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] | | Have you started sucking crawfish and saying "y'all" yet?? Patrick - 02 Jul 2004 05:26 GMT > We killed 4 snakes earlier this spring. Two black snakes and two that were > swimming across the water. Hubby thinks they may have been cottonmouths, but > hit them so hard with the shotgun that there was no head left on one and the > other was kind of hard to tell after it came back up to the surface a few > days later. Kate,
Black snakes are okay. They're non-venomous. And they often eat other snakes, so I'd keep them around if you live near a wooded area. Here's some info on them:
--- Racer and Coachwhip
One of Florida's most familiar snakes is the "blacksnake" or, more properly, the southern black racer. Aptly named for its coloration and speed, the black racer is common in a wide variety of habitats, most frequently in brush- or shrub-covered areas near water.
The adult racer is a slender, satiny snake, plain black or slate gray with a white or gray chin and throat. Maximum length is about 70 inches, but most are 36-60 inches long. Persons otherwise familiar with snakes are often "stumped" by young black racers, which are colored very differently form the adults. For a year after hatching, racers are slate gray with regular rusty brown blotches running down the back. Black racers shouldn't be mistaken for the threatened eastern indigo snakes, which also are large, shiny and black. Indigos are much heavier, have a rusty or red chin and throat, and are much more local in distribution.
Black racers are nervous, irritable and fast-moving. When given a chance to escape, they generally do so very quickly. However, racers, especially juveniles, will not hesitate to bite when cornered. They also vibrate their tails when they feel threatened, causing some people to mistake them for rattlesnakes.
Unlike many snakes, the black racer hunts actively during daylight hours, one reason why they are frequently noticed. The eyes, with their rich, chestnut-brown irises, are large in relation to its head, betraying the racer's keen vision.
Part of the racer's success is due to its wide diet; they have been referred to as "slithering garbage pails." Racers capture a tremendous variety of animals, including other snakes, lizards, frogs, birds, rodents and insects. While hunting in open areas, the racer often raises its head high above the ground, cobra-style, to survey its surroundings better.
Many of these characteristics are shared with the racer's larger cousin, the eastern coachwhip. This snake can be over 8 feet long and frequents dry, open habitats including pine flatwoods, sandhill and scrub. It's an active hunter and quick to bite in self-defense. Typically, its head and front quarter of the body are black to dark brown, which fades to light tan on the remainder of the body and tail. ----
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Joe - 02 Jul 2004 13:24 GMT >> We killed 4 snakes earlier this spring. Two black snakes and two >> that were swimming across the water. Hubby thinks they may have [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > Patrick > A hotrodder AND an environmentalist... wierd, huh? Got some racers in our garden out back. They're great in the garden because they eat what you'd normally want out of there anyway. Just have to watch when we're walking around back there.
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WindsorFox[SS] - 25 Jun 2004 21:50 GMT > Kate: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > -JD I hear there's an openeing where Stearn used to be :-p
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JD Adams - 26 Jun 2004 03:03 GMT ** I hear there's an openeing where Stearn used to be :-p
No point to it: the FCC would shitcan me in a heartbeat. My rightous ephus would make Stern look like a Cake Boy.
-JD
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| Kate: | [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] | | -JD bill - 25 Jun 2004 14:59 GMT >I am absolutely sick to death of your anti-gun bullshit. >Until you have taken the time to get to know the people and have involved >yourself in shooting sports so that you have an CLUE about what you are >talking about then you have absolutely no business spouting off. WOOHOO! It's a wonderful thing seeing someone stand up for themselves & their rights. It seems that the liberal left has forgotten that individual ownership of firearms AND belief in Christianity/religion (among other things) were the foundation of our new country.
But, we seem to underestimate the left's goal of a godless and unarmed populace that they can bend to their every whim. God help us if Kerry gets elected.
That was a beautiful post Kate!
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SVTKate - 26 Jun 2004 12:43 GMT Thanks Bill, The unfortunate part is that the liberals DO something about what they want. The majority of people choose to do nothing and that's how the liberals end up winning.. I simply do not understand it.
Kate
| >I am absolutely sick to death of your anti-gun bullshit. | >Until you have taken the time to get to know the people and have involved [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] | | Guns: Colt AR15, Sig P220, Moss. 590A1, Marlin 70P 180 Out - 25 Jun 2004 16:56 GMT "SVTKate" <SVTKate@excite.competitive> wrote
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> Thank God we left California, and we did because of people exactly like YOU > and your single minded opinion of how the world should be. If it doesn't [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > you were wrong and just continued on trying to shove your opinion down > everyone else's throats while acting the wounded little miss innocent. So I'm watching TV news coverage of Michael Moore's appearance at the Capitol Thursday to respond to the conservative group Citizens United's request to the FEC to ban ads for Fahrenheit 9/11 as of July 31, and he puffs out his chest and says something like "That's the difference between their side and our side. They see something they don't like and they want to ban it. We see something they don't like and we say, just don't go see it."
Too bad I wasn't sipping on something at the time because I could have done a trememdous spit take. Imagine, a liberal who says it's HIS side that tolerates dissent while its the "other side" that wants to suppress all opinions but its own!
Didn't we just go through a round of protests and boycotts and calls for the resignation of the UC Berkeley School of Law professor who authored the memo that the Geneva Convention does not apply to civilian terrorists? I mean, the guy's client -- the White House -- gave him a legal point to research, he did the research and he wrote up his results, and now LAW STUDENTS are saying he shouldn't have written the truth; he should have lied to his client in furtherance of some higher principle. And the penalty for not lying to a client is that the law school shouyld fire him.
Just the most recent example of many. But for a liberal to claim that his side is the side of open discussion and tolerance of dissent, I couldn't believe it.
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It was wrong to contribute anything to the Reagan thread other than sympathy and appreciation.
Many conservatives do NOT tolerate dissent.
It was a BIG mistake to invade Iraq. It has increased the threat of terror. It has squandered all the international anti-terrorist support we had after 9/11. Its costs will soon exceed $200 billion and climbing, 1,000 American dead and climbing, thousands more American wounded and climbing, tens of thousands of Iraqi non-combatants dead and wounded and climbing, and hundreds of thousands of new terrorists and those willing to fund them, and climbing.
It would be a BIG mistake to withdraw now.
Hank - 25 Jun 2004 23:29 GMT > President Reagan was not perfect we all know that. He was a great > president though and I had a lot of respect for him and Mrs. Reagan. He was one of our worst presidents, and his regime was the most corrupt, indicted, and convicted in our history. His S&L scam, that lined the pockets of sleazy criminals and thieves like Neil bu$h is still costing us billions of dollars, and his sale of weapons to Iran and then lying about it was a very serious crime. And of course, he funded terrorists in Nicaragua which was also against the law and resulted in the murder and torture of thousands of innocent people. The Reagan/bu$h era was a tragic and regrettable chapter in our history.
 Signature Dick Cheney: "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction." August 26, 2002.
Ari Fleischer: "We know for a fact that there are weapons there." January 9, 2003.
Colin Powell: "We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more." February 5, 2003.
Donald Rumsfeld: "We know where they are," about these weapons. "They are in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad." March 30, 2003.
George W. Bush: "We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons." February 8, 2003.
George W. Bush: "Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised." March 17, 2003.
"I think this is the worst government the US has ever had in its more than 200 years of history. It has engaged in extraordinarily irresponsible policies not only in foreign policy and economics but also in social and environmental policy.....This is not normal government policy. Now is the time for people to engage in civil disobedience. I think it's time to protest - as much as possible....What we have here is a form of looting." - George A. Akerlof, 2001 Nobel prize laureate economist
"One of the things we don't want to do is destroy the infrastructure in Iraq because in a few days we're going to own that country," - Tom Brokaw
Cost of probing Bill Clinton's sex life: $65 million. Cost of probing the Columbia shuttle disaster: $50 million. Funds assigned to independent Sept. 11 panel: $3 million.
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"After all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." -- Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag, Nazi Party, and Luftwaffe Commander in Chief "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"You know, when bu$h said that he's against nation building, I didn't realize that he meant only the United States" -- Al Franken
Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
"Personally, I don't think all the Iraqis on earth are worth even a single American life." - A usenet rabid right wing extremist terrorist.
bill - 25 Jun 2004 23:59 GMT >Dick Cheney: "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam >Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction." August 26, 2002. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Donald Rumsfeld: "We know where they are," about these weapons. >"They are in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad." March 30, 2003. -snipped excess subjective history recollection-
All these damn liberals love to cite all the republicans who stated that there were WMDs in Iraq and FORGET ALL about how their left-leaning darlings (did somebody say Kerry...?) agreed that there were WMDs there AND supported invading Iraq.
>Cost of probing Bill Clinton's sex life: $65 million. -snipped-
Whatever... IIRC he was "probed" because the moron LIED. If he'd only told the truth HE could have saved U.S. taxpayers $65 million.
You wanna try blaming Whitewater on us too?
Reality tells me that as long as the left is giving subsidies to minorities, poor people, etc. they can be as slimy as they want to be and keep getting plenty of votes from the folks who want Uncle Sam to wipe their butt for them.
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SVTKate - 26 Jun 2004 12:46 GMT Thank you for sharing.
| > President Reagan was not perfect we all know that. He was a great | > president though and I had a lot of respect for him and Mrs. Reagan. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] | and torture of thousands of innocent people. The Reagan/bu$h | era was a tragic and regrettable chapter in our history. WindsorFox[SS] - 26 Jun 2004 23:13 GMT >>President Reagan was not perfect we all know that. He was a great >>president though and I had a lot of respect for him and Mrs. Reagan. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > and torture of thousands of innocent people. The Reagan/bu$h > era was a tragic and regrettable chapter in our history. You are an utter troll. There is no trueth and you have nothing meaningful, feasable or correct to say.
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Hank - 30 Jun 2004 01:42 GMT > >>President Reagan was not perfect we all know that. He was a great > >>president though and I had a lot of respect for him and Mrs. Reagan.
> > He was one of our worst presidents, and his regime was the > > most corrupt, indicted, and convicted in our history. His S&L [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > and torture of thousands of innocent people. The Reagan/bu$h > > era was a tragic and regrettable chapter in our history.
> You are an utter troll. There is no trueth and you have nothing > meaningful, feasable or correct to say. If I wrote something that wasn't "trueth", you'd be able to point it out and refute it, rather than just whine and cry like a baby in need of a bottle.
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"I think this is the worst government the US has ever had in its more than 200 years of history. It has engaged in extraordinarily irresponsible policies not only in foreign policy and economics but also in social and environmental policy.....This is not normal government policy. Now is the time for people to engage in civil disobedience. I think it's time to protest - as much as possible....What we have here is a form of looting." - George A. Akerlof, 2001 Nobel prize laureate economist
"One of the things we don't want to do is destroy the infrastructure in Iraq because in a few days we're going to own that country," - Tom Brokaw
Cost of probing Bill Clinton's sex life: $65 million. Cost of probing the Columbia shuttle disaster: $50 million. Funds assigned to independent Sept. 11 panel: $3 million.
http://www.commondreams.org/ http://www.truthout.org/ http://counterpunch.org/ http://responsiblewealth.org/
"After all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." -- Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag, Nazi Party, and Luftwaffe Commander in Chief "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"You know, when bu$h said that he's against nation building, I didn't realize that he meant only the United States" -- Al Franken
Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
"Personally, I don't think all the Iraqis on earth are worth even a single American life." - A usenet rabid right wing extremist terrorist.
ZombyWoof - 30 Jun 2004 12:08 GMT >> >>President Reagan was not perfect we all know that. He was a great >> >>president though and I had a lot of respect for him and Mrs. Reagan. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >able to point it out and refute it, rather than just >whine and cry like a baby in need of a bottle. As to whether or not your wrote the truth or not is a matter of perspective & politics. Some of the things you see as negatives others see as positives. I am curious as to what you have ever done for your country that is noteworthy.
For many hundreds of thousands of people throughout the world living under the jackboot of communism Reagan was a savior to them. He and his policies were instrumental in the fall of communism throughout Europe. Pretty damn big accomplishment in my book. He gave our military members pride, respect, and proper recognition for their sacrifices & service as well.
Name one single president who hasn't has his faults or scandals while in office. Do you think Clinton will be afforded the same national honors that Reagan was? I certainly don't.
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stew - 26 Jun 2004 15:05 GMT i voted for him in kintergarden! ~stew~
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