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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / July 2004

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The Urban Legend Continues . . .

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John - 08 Jul 2004 01:54 GMT
Car Craft continues to fuel the debate!  Was the 68 Mustang W Code real, or
was it just a pre-production news leak?  On page 26 of their August issue,
"Top 10 List - Best Years for the Ford Mustang", Car Craft listed the 68
Mustang as #7 out of 10.  In the write up of the 68 they say, "and a few
cars even left with 390hp 427s under their hoods".

Anyway, if a few did go out the gate, I'd love to see one of them go up for
sale on ebay!  I bet that auction would break all the records!  Super rare
and pure muscle!

Maybe I should get a 68 instead of a 69 and do a clone project!

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Dennis Harrelson - 08 Jul 2004 03:07 GMT
Shortly after I purchased my '65 fastback in 1972, I was offered a trade for
a '67 fastback with a 427.  The engine had factory dress-up kit, 4 bbl, etc.
with factory decals for 427. At that time, Mustangs were just starting to be
collectible, and only 1st generation ones at that, so if a car looked to be
original chances were it was. I've never seen another since. Maybe it was a
390 with decals, etc to fake it, but like I say, at that time there was
little reason to do so. I like to believe I passed on a unique car, and
continue to tell the tale with a tear in my eye, even though I still own the
'65.

Still wishing I'd bit

Dennis
> Car Craft continues to fuel the debate!  Was the 68 Mustang W Code real, or
> was it just a pre-production news leak?  On page 26 of their August issue,
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>
> Maybe I should get a 68 instead of a 69 and do a clone project!
Bill - 08 Jul 2004 18:21 GMT
Years ago, I read an article that said Ford listed Fairlanes with "W" code
engines, but didn't build any. I had to laugh when I read it because I owned
one. A 1967 410 HP 427 Fairlane 500 XL. 7H40W. Years later I met a guy who
had the factory records. Ford built exactly 7 of these cars.

> Car Craft continues to fuel the debate!  Was the 68 Mustang W Code real, or
> was it just a pre-production news leak?  On page 26 of their August issue,
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Maybe I should get a 68 instead of a 69 and do a clone project!
John - 08 Jul 2004 21:50 GMT
Here's what Kevin Marti told me:

John,
In spite of the strong disagreements you might encounter, Ford did not sell
any Mustangs produced with a 427 in 1968 or any other year. The only vehicle
available with a 427 in 1968 was the Cougar. I have even seen pictures of
fender aprons with a "W" stamped in them. They have all proved to be
forgeries. There were some 68 Shelbys that were delivered to customers with
427s, but they were not released from the factory that way. The 428 was
removed and replaced with a 427 long after the car left the Ford assembly
line.

Thank you,
Kevin Marti
Marti Auto Works
www.martiauto.com
12007 W. Peoria Ave.
El Mirage, AZ 85335
(623)935-2558
(623)935-2579 FAX
kevin@martiauto.com

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> Car Craft continues to fuel the debate!  Was the 68 Mustang W Code real, or
> was it just a pre-production news leak?  On page 26 of their August issue,
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Maybe I should get a 68 instead of a 69 and do a clone project!
Iggy - 08 Jul 2004 22:08 GMT
> Here's what Kevin Marti told me:
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> (623)935-2579 FAX
> kevin@martiauto.com

Here's an interesting link....even mentions Mr. Marti :

http://www.mustangmonthly.com/thehistoryof/5866/
Bill - 09 Jul 2004 19:55 GMT
NHRA lists the 390 HP 427 in it's stock car classification guide for 1968.
They get this info from the manufacturer in the years it is listed. I know
that they used to disallow any combination that the manufacturer couldn't
prove was actually produced. ???

> Car Craft continues to fuel the debate!  Was the 68 Mustang W Code real, or
> was it just a pre-production news leak?  On page 26 of their August issue,
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Maybe I should get a 68 instead of a 69 and do a clone project!
CobraJet - 09 Jul 2004 21:20 GMT
> NHRA lists the 390 HP 427 in it's stock car classification guide for 1968.
> They get this info from the manufacturer in the years it is listed. I know
> that they used to disallow any combination that the manufacturer couldn't
> prove was actually produced. ???

  While no W-code Mustangs were produced, there were plenty
(relatively) of W-code Cougars that year. So, any '68 Cougar (or a '67
with side markers added) can run that engine legally. And I'll bet
somewhere along the line someone convinced NHRA that Mustangs had them,
too. There is a case of a guy with a Fairlane wagon that got legalized
with a 427 because the regular Fairlanes had them, even though Ford lit
showed no wagons available with that option.

  As far as '68 goes with the 427 in NHRA, it's all academic. The 68
1/2 428 Cobra Jet engine will outrun the 427 anyway.

  CobraJet

> > Car Craft continues to fuel the debate!  Was the 68 Mustang W Code real,
> or
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> >
> > Maybe I should get a 68 instead of a 69 and do a clone project!
Bill - 21 Jul 2004 19:03 GMT
> > NHRA lists the 390 HP 427 in it's stock car classification guide for 1968.
> > They get this info from the manufacturer in the years it is listed. I know
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>    CobraJet

In your dreams, maybe.

> > > Car Craft continues to fuel the debate!  Was the 68 Mustang W Code real,
> > or
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> > >
> > > Maybe I should get a 68 instead of a 69 and do a clone project!
Bill - 21 Jul 2004 19:11 GMT
Guys name was Richard Charbeanu. (Spelling maybe incorrect) Car ran mainly
in Stock Eliminator, held various records for years. Don't know why the car
disappeared, heard something about NHRA deciding that the combination was
never built. Still listed in the classification guide, though.

> > NHRA lists the 390 HP 427 in it's stock car classification guide for 1968.
> > They get this info from the manufacturer in the years it is listed. I know
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> > >
> > > Maybe I should get a 68 instead of a 69 and do a clone project!
180 Out - 09 Jul 2004 23:39 GMT
"Bill" <bheinsonNOSPAM@iwon.com (Remove the obvious)> wrote

> NHRA lists the 390 HP 427 in it's stock car classification guide for 1968.
> They get this info from the manufacturer in the years it is listed. I know
> that they used to disallow any combination that the manufacturer couldn't
> prove was actually produced. ???

I remember another phantom combination was the 1970 LS6 Corvette.
This was the solid lifter 460 hp 454 that was actually sold in a few
thousand 1970  Chevelles/Malibus.  I have a dealer brochure on the '70
Vette that includes the LS6 in the engine availability charts.  But as
far as I know none were ever produced (though I think there might have
been some '71 LS6 Vettes.)  Does the NHRA have specs on this combo,
the '70 LS6 454/460 Vette?

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