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SVTKate - 18 Aug 2004 02:54 GMT
Did anyone else see them rebuild the "Rustang?"

Very cool episode!

Kate
Michael Johnson, PE - 18 Aug 2004 03:04 GMT
I did.  That's one lucky SOB.  Beautiful car too.

> Did anyone else see them rebuild the "Rustang?"
>
> Very cool episode!
>
> Kate
pony67 - 18 Aug 2004 03:05 GMT
Arghhhh! I wanted to see this one too! Oh well, its on again at midnight,
just need to pop a tape in....

thanks for the reminder,
Bob

> Did anyone else see them rebuild the "Rustang?"
>
> Very cool episode!
>
> Kate
SVTKate - 18 Aug 2004 03:07 GMT
That guy is one lucky SOB!

I told hubby.. hey you caould call them and have them steal MY car!
He laughed.

Man it looked good.

| Arghhhh! I wanted to see this one too! Oh well, its on again at midnight,
| just need to pop a tape in....
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| >
| > Kate
Michael Johnson, PE - 18 Aug 2004 03:14 GMT
I would give Chip Foose free rein to do absolutely anything he wanted to
my Mustang.  He is a master when it comes to car design.  Plus, the cars
he does on Overhaulin' are done right with nothing but the best parts
and workmanship.

> That guy is one lucky SOB!
>
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> | >
> | > Kate
crosscheck - 18 Aug 2004 13:50 GMT
C-O-U-L-D
Spelling lesson over.

Kate I had to get you back for warranty ;)

> That guy is one lucky SOB!
>
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> | >
> | > Kate
SVTKate - 18 Aug 2004 16:08 GMT
LAMO!!!
Hey now, typos don't count the same as errors.....

ya rat.

Kate

| C-O-U-L-D
| Spelling lesson over.
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| > | >
| > | > Kate
John - 18 Aug 2004 03:48 GMT
I missed it but one thing tha always bothers me, if you're rebuilding a
muscle car, why stick those stupid "bling bling" rims on the thing?  It
makes it look cheap.  They did this to both the '68 442 Cutlass and a '70
Monte Carlo.

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John

SVTKate - 18 Aug 2004 04:18 GMT
The Bling Bling is the "Thing thing" these days. That and...
the company prolly donates them, it gets their newest, altest, greatest kid
candy on the TV.

Kate

| I missed it but one thing tha always bothers me, if you're rebuilding a
| muscle car, why stick those stupid "bling bling" rims on the thing?  It
| makes it look cheap.  They did this to both the '68 442 Cutlass and a '70
| Monte Carlo.
bluestang98@NOSPAMnetzero.net - 18 Aug 2004 13:38 GMT
>The Bling Bling is the "Thing thing" these days. That and...
>the company prolly donates them, it gets their newest, altest, greatest kid
>candy on the TV.
>
>Kate

Also, on this particular project, the wheels looked GREAT and the car
had a magnificent stance.

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Brent P - 18 Aug 2004 22:53 GMT
>>The Bling Bling is the "Thing thing" these days. That and...
>>the company prolly donates them, it gets their newest, altest, greatest kid
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> Also, on this particular project, the wheels looked GREAT and the car
> had a magnificent stance.

I was going to post something similiar, the wheels looked fine to me,
like over grown torque trusts or something...
John - 22 Aug 2004 01:27 GMT
> I was going to post something similiar, the wheels looked fine to me,
> like over grown torque trusts or something...

Now those rims look fine, like a set of cragers, they look like they belong
on the vehicle.  Perhaps Chip didn't want to go too far with this classic
pony.

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John

2.3Sleeper - 18 Aug 2004 18:11 GMT
Were you drinking when you posted your messages?

L-A-T-E-S-T

Second spelling lesson.

Don Manning
> The Bling Bling is the "Thing thing" these days. That and...
> the company prolly donates them, it gets their newest, altest, greatest kid
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> | makes it look cheap.  They did this to both the '68 442 Cutlass and a '70
> | Monte Carlo.
crosscheck - 18 Aug 2004 21:09 GMT
That's good, I was trying to figure out what that spelled... lol
> Were you drinking when you posted your messages?
>
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SVTKate - 19 Aug 2004 03:15 GMT
LOL!
So was I!

| That's good, I was trying to figure out what that spelled... lol
| > Were you drinking when you posted your messages?
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SVTKate - 19 Aug 2004 03:15 GMT
It's the damn keyboard...
You guys get me gigglin and my fingers trip all over the place!

I repeat (or is that repent) TYPOS are not the same as spelling mistakes.

K

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me - 18 Aug 2004 08:47 GMT
>"John" <noone@here.com> wrote in message
news:fszUc.142631$8_6.141807@attbi_s04...
>I missed it but one thing tha always bothers me, if you're rebuilding a
>muscle car, why stick those stupid "bling bling" rims on the thing?  It
>makes it look cheap.  They did this to both the '68 442 Cutlass and a '70
>Monte Carlo.

>--
>John

I'm with you on that one.They should leave that crap to the Pimp My Ride
team. I'd rather keep my Cragars thank you very much

ANdrew
Brent P - 18 Aug 2004 04:13 GMT
> Did anyone else see them rebuild the "Rustang?"
>
> Very cool episode!

Haven't seen that one. But I would like to submit my maverick with
one conditon, the engine remain a straight 6 ford. (preferably that
turbo one from austrailia ;) ) Well two conditions, I keep all the
original parts...
Musttanguy - 18 Aug 2004 09:21 GMT
>From: "SVTKate"

>Did anyone else see them rebuild the "Rustang?"
>
>Very cool episode!

Just caught the midnight showing, what a beautiful car.  !!!!! I WANT ONE
!!!!!!
Also gotta give props to my friends at Maier Racing here in Hayward, CA.
www.maierracing.com for their suspension work on the car. Too bad they didn't
have Michael do a roll bar in that thing as he is a master. I may be having him
do a cusom bar in the 97 coupe before long.

TIM  -aka-
MUSTTANGUY "at" AOL "dot" COM
http://www.PonyPerformance.com
bill - 18 Aug 2004 14:35 GMT
>Just caught the midnight showing, what a beautiful car.  !!!!! I WANT ONE
>!!!!!!
>Also gotta give props to my friends at Maier Racing here in Hayward, CA.
>www.maierracing.com for their suspension work on the car.

But why would they install seemingly OEM replacement lower control arms?  I'm
not sure if I heard correctly, but I thought I heard the term "boxed" used when
they were talking about the control arms.  _If_ they were boxed then I guess
that's ok, but if it were my car I'd rather see some heavy duty tubular lower
control arms like Total Control's or Global West's.  That said, they could
overhaul my '64.5 _any_ day!!

bill
Car: '64.5 Mustang: 260 V8, 3 sp, factory a/c, SVO cam, Performer intake,
Holley 390 cfm carb, Pertronix, Hi-Po exhaust manifolds, 1.5" front & 1" rear
drop, Jacobs wires, Torq Thrust D's

Guns: Colt AR15, Sig P220, Moss. 590A1, Marlin 70P
Musttanguy - 18 Aug 2004 17:25 GMT
>From: txarsoncop

>www.maierracing.com

>But why would they install seemingly OEM replacement lower control arms?  I'm
>not sure if I heard correctly, but I thought I heard the term "boxed" used
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>
>bill

If you check out their website they have a complete grocery list of items that
were installed on that car.
Total Control Products has some nice suspension products as well.
I have known the Maiers since about 1984, when it comes to suspension and
fiberglass they know their stuff.

TIM  -aka-
MUSTTANGUY "at" AOL "dot" COM
http://www.PonyPerformance.com
180 Out - 18 Aug 2004 22:02 GMT
musttanguy@aol.competition (Musttanguy) wrote

> Also gotta give props to my friends at Maier Racing here in Hayward, CA.
> www.maierracing.com for their suspension work on the car. Too bad they didn't
> have Michael do a roll bar in that thing as he is a master. I may be having him
> do a cusom bar in the 97 coupe before long.

I agree.  He put a six-point in my kids' '65 fb.  Easy access to the
back seat, let alone the front; the fold-down clears the diagonals by
a quarter inch; and the way he shot the holes into the trunk, I still
can't believe the precision.  Paul Teutel Jr. stick to your spider
webs and daggers and doodads and leave the real fabricatin' to the
grownups.

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Mark - 18 Aug 2004 20:20 GMT
The Show, American Hot Rod, is supposed to modify a Fastback coming up soon.

> Did anyone else see them rebuild the "Rustang?"
>
> Very cool episode!
>
> Kate
V'ger - 19 Aug 2004 03:17 GMT
I thought it was excellent, and I got some ideas for mine from it...
Loved what Moto did with the upholstery.... craft(wo)manship!
Not too crazy about doin' the Shelby thing. I'd rather have it subdued
with the same drive train.

QUESTION: But was this really a rebuild or a replace? Didn't seem like
there was much available to actually rebuild... LOL  At least they
saved what they could of a historic classic. Something tells me the
owner would never have finished it considering the shape it was in.

Like a remake of "The Miracle Worker"

>Did anyone else see them rebuild the "Rustang?"
>
>Very cool episode!
>
>Kate

V'ger
jma(NOSPAM)@snowcrest.net
1965 Mustang Fastback 2+2
Vintage Burgundy w/ Black Std Interior
289 ci 4v V8 oem A Code
Dual Exhaust
C4 Auto converted to AODE
8" Trak Lok
Vintage 40 wheels
BF Goodrich gForce T/A 225/50ZR-16 KDWS tires
Built in San Jose, CA on my birthday, May 10th ; )
Restoration by: Cool Mustang Restorations  Cool, CA
180 Out - 19 Aug 2004 22:54 GMT
V'ger <jma@snowcrest.net> wrote

> QUESTION: But was this really a rebuild or a replace? Didn't seem like
> there was much available to actually rebuild... LOL  At least they
> saved what they could of a historic classic. Something tells me the
> owner would never have finished it considering the shape it was in.

I just watched the show on tape last night (Wednesday 8-18) and I had
the same thought.  They took Grandpa's 6-cyl fb and removed (1) the
entire drivetrain, including the axle (replacing it with a 347 FRRP
crate motor, a 5-spd, and (probably) a 9-inch), (2) the entire front
clip, including the cowl, (3) the rear quarter panels, (4) the floor
pans, and (5) every stitch of the interior, including the headliner.
I hope they also replaced the door skins, but I fear they just bondo'd
the rust that they discovered late in the game.  So what was left of
Gramps's car?  The roof and the rear wheel wells, and maybe the doors?

Point being, they did what they had to do, but that was no longer
Grampa's heirloom they had in the garage at the end of the show.

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Brent P - 19 Aug 2004 23:02 GMT
> I hope they also replaced the door skins, but I fear they just bondo'd
> the rust that they discovered late in the game.

The doors didn't look bad. If there was anything in them it was small and
they likely patched it.

>  So what was left of
> Gramps's car?  The roof and the rear wheel wells, and maybe the doors?

Backseat area and floor.... ;)

> Point being, they did what they had to do, but that was no longer
> Grampa's heirloom they had in the garage at the end of the show.

They could have saved more of the front, but it would have been
a hell of alot more work and time.
SVTKate - 20 Aug 2004 14:38 GMT
In a case like this...
Grandpa's heirloom was worthless anyway so why not make it the new and
improved version.
Hell, I'd let them have their way with Shug if I thought they would put 500
horses under the hood!

| > QUESTION: But was this really a rebuild or a replace? Didn't seem like
| > there was much available to actually rebuild... LOL  At least they
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SVTKate - 19 Aug 2004 22:54 GMT
I thought about that too, the replacement parts. They replaced from the
firewall up and at least one of the rear quarter panels. They aptly
nicknamed it "The Rustang". Imagine if the guy had to pay to have all of
that done. I agree, it prolly would have never happened.
I too loved what she did with the intrior. I sort of wondered about the
remark that she had been gone from the show for awhile and then she thanked
them profusely for the opportunity to do the job. I wonder if she got fired
and then they gave her one more chance.

| I thought it was excellent, and I got some ideas for mine from it...
| Loved what Moto did with the upholstery.... craft(wo)manship!
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
| Built in San Jose, CA on my birthday, May 10th ; )
| Restoration by: Cool Mustang Restorations  Cool, CA
Brent P - 19 Aug 2004 23:08 GMT
> I thought about that too, the replacement parts. They replaced from the
> firewall up and at least one of the rear quarter panels. They aptly
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> them profusely for the opportunity to do the job. I wonder if she got fired
> and then they gave her one more chance.

She wasn't gone from the show... this is the only episode she's been
in. She had stopped working making custom interiors for awhile. This
show was her first one back doing it.

Other than Chip Foose and the hosts, the crew doing the work seems
to rotate with new people each episode. My guess is that they get people
from each local area to keep costs down and to prevent anyone else from
becoming a 'star' of the show.

And I thought about the cost for the moment, even if the show is being
charged near full cost - freebies (product placement ads really) for the
car it's a pretty cheap show to make as television goes these days.

Now how do I get them to do my maverick? :)
V'ger - 20 Aug 2004 00:45 GMT
I'd like to know how to get them to do my GT-40 and my AC Cobra....
especially since I don't own either one....... I'd let them do either
for a Christmas show!

It was a tough call, but they did do an outstanding job.... With far
less to do, I have been waiting since the end of February for my 65 FB
to be finished. But, there's no crew and no product placement ads and
television to rush it along. But that's OK. I'd rather have it done
right the first time.... just itchin' ta hit the road!

>> I thought about that too, the replacement parts. They replaced from the
>> firewall up and at least one of the rear quarter panels. They aptly
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
>Now how do I get them to do my maverick? :)

V'ger
jma(NOSPAM)@snowcrest.net
1965 Mustang Fastback 2+2
Vintage Burgundy w/ Black Std Interior
289 ci 4v V8 oem A Code
Dual Exhaust
C4 Auto converted to AODE
8" Trak Lok
Vintage 40 wheels
BF Goodrich gForce T/A 225/50ZR-16 KDWS tires
Built in San Jose, CA on my birthday, May 10th ; )
Restoration by: Cool Mustang Restorations  Cool, CA
SVTKate - 20 Aug 2004 14:41 GMT
Time to light a fire under them.
You know what happens don't you...
the collision jobs take top priority after awhile and yours gets worked on
when things are slow.

You HAVE to let them know that they are way past the deadline and it's time
to get off the pot.

Kate

| I'd like to know how to get them to do my GT-40 and my AC Cobra....
| especially since I don't own either one....... I'd let them do either
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| Built in San Jose, CA on my birthday, May 10th ; )
| Restoration by: Cool Mustang Restorations  Cool, CA
V'ger - 20 Aug 2004 19:47 GMT
the insurance work types are why I went with a company which
specializes in Mustangs. The insurance estimated a year for paint
alone unless I paid BIG money up front. (MAACO would have done it in a
couple of days... LOL). Just some things that came up unexpectedly
which could not be foreseen... like a local calling down the Sheriff's
Office without just cause, but it did result in delays. And a spate of
bad weather where humidity and temp prevented going forward.
I'm not complaining about the time... I'm just itching to be
motivating.... ; )

>Time to light a fire under them.
>You know what happens don't you...
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>| Built in San Jose, CA on my birthday, May 10th ; )
>| Restoration by: Cool Mustang Restorations  Cool, CA

V'ger
jma(NOSPAM)@snowcrest.net
1965 Mustang Fastback 2+2
Vintage Burgundy w/ Black Std Interior
289 ci 4v V8 oem A Code
Dual Exhaust
C4 Auto converted to AODE
8" Trak Lok
Vintage 40 wheels
BF Goodrich gForce T/A 225/50ZR-16 KDWS tires
Built in San Jose, CA on my birthday, May 10th ; )
Restoration by: Cool Mustang Restorations  Cool, CA
180 Out - 20 Aug 2004 16:47 GMT
> It was a tough call, but they did do an outstanding job.... With far
> less to do, I have been waiting since the end of February for my 65 FB
> to be finished. But, there's no crew and no product placement ads and
> television to rush it along. But that's OK. I'd rather have it done
> right the first time.... just itchin' ta hit the road!

I'm wondering how many body shop owners around the country, along
about the sixth month that they've held a customer's car in paint
jail, are hearing something like, "Well they primered, blocked and
painted the whole car in TWO DAYS on American Hotrod/Overhaulin'/Pimp
My Ride."

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SVTKate - 20 Aug 2004 18:17 GMT
LMAO!
No kiddin!

| > It was a tough call, but they did do an outstanding job.... With far
| > less to do, I have been waiting since the end of February for my 65 FB
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V'ger - 20 Aug 2004 20:04 GMT
>I'm wondering how many body shop owners around the country, along
>about the sixth month that they've held a customer's car in paint
>jail, are hearing something like, "Well they primered, blocked and
>painted the whole car in TWO DAYS on American Hotrod/Overhaulin'/Pimp
>My Ride."

MAACO would have done it in a week IF I didn't care about any body
work, or masking, or overspray, or.... I think they send a truck over
to the Unemployment Office and pick up half a dozen guys to block sand
and dump 'em back off at noon.

Years ago, a buddy and I took his car to bakersfield to Earl  "I'll
paint any car for only $39.95" Scheibe....  whose manager said any
filler had to be removed and redone. Higher price for better paint.
"Oh, you're in the service? Let me see what I can do... {clicking of
calculator keys....} I can knock off 10%. That brings it to $625.87."

We drove back to Mojave. My buddy rented lights, a sprayer, bought
paint, and in his garage turned out a very sweet paint job for about
$150. Of course the garage walls, ceiling, and floor were a mess....

Anyway. The best estimate I got on repaint of the 66 Fastback I just
sold (which had a MAACO paint job when I got it) was two weeks and a
couple of grand, and I would be allowed to do some of the disassembly
and reassembly work to keep costs down. That guy has been written
about in Hot Rod Magazine, and others for his custom work. But he
doesn't do insurance work.

I even had shops refuse the work because it interfered with their
insurance work.

So, if anyone says they saw it don in a couple of days on some TV
show, the shop is gonna KNOW they have a live one on the hook....

V'ger
jma(NOSPAM)@snowcrest.net
1965 Mustang Fastback 2+2
Vintage Burgundy w/ Black Std Interior
289 ci 4v V8 oem A Code
Dual Exhaust
C4 Auto converted to AODE
8" Trak Lok
Vintage 40 wheels
BF Goodrich gForce T/A 225/50ZR-16 KDWS tires
Built in San Jose, CA on my birthday, May 10th ; )
Restoration by: Cool Mustang Restorations  Cool, CA
JS - 22 Aug 2004 16:18 GMT
> I even had shops refuse the work because it interfered with their
> insurance work.

There's a place not 2 minutes' walk from my house that's called so + so's
"Classic Auto Body"  My friend, thinking, ok, classic auto body, they'll do
my car, takes his '66 Falcon down to have it professionally sprayed.

"Sorry, we only do insurance work."

Seems like most of the places around my town *only* do insurance work.  When
I had the '86 Capri sprayed, I went to a guy that I found out from a guy who
knew a guy who knew a guy... like paint jobs are a big secret 'round here
unless you wreck your car.

JS
180 Out - 20 Aug 2004 16:43 GMT
tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote

> Now how do I get them to do my maverick? :)

Trade it in on a Super Bee.  (Or the like.  I'm just guessing that
they're overdue to do a Mopar.)  Also you have to move to L.A.
Because half the show consists of Chris and Courtney dicking around
with the "victim" the show has to be set in L.A.

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