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Just received a picture of this model, and I would not trade my 2001 Mustang GT for 2 of these. Ford, you have finally destroyed the beauty of the Mustang. Ahgnis > Just received a picture of this model, and I would not trade my 2001 > Mustang GT for 2 of these. Ford, you have finally destroyed the beauty > of the Mustang. The only thing I don't like about the new 'Stang is the interior. The exterior looks great (it looks especially, agressively cool when worked over like the GT-R), the chassis is superior, and the motor options look better and more powerful.  SignatureDan 2003 Cobra convertible With some stuff and things Reminds me of a sign I saw a while back........ "Maybe I think YOUR car is ugly, too". Beauty is in the eye of the beholder... > Just received a picture of this model, and I would not trade my 2001 > Mustang GT for 2 of these. Ford, you have finally destroyed the beauty > of the Mustang. > > Ahgnis > Just received a picture of this model, and I would not trade my 2001 > Mustang GT for 2 of these. Ford, you have finally destroyed the beauty > of the Mustang. > > Ahgnis To each his own. Personally, the 2005 gives me a woody. Signature.boB 1997 HD FXDWG - Turbocharged! 2001 Dodge Dakota QC 5.9/4x4/3.92 1983 GMC Jimmy - Mountain Beater 1966 Mustang Coupe - Daily Driver 1966 FFR Cobra - Ongoing project >> Just received a picture of this model, and I would not trade my 2001 >> Mustang GT for 2 of these. Ford, you have finally destroyed the beauty [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > To each his own. Personally, the 2005 gives me a woody. TMI!!! ahgnis@yahoo.com (Ahgnis) wrote in news:24b5a18b.0408211740.7ab00930 @posting.google.com: > Just received a picture of this model, and I would not trade my 2001 > Mustang GT for 2 of these. Ford, you have finally destroyed the beauty > of the Mustang. > > Ahgnis Different strokes... Personally, I think the '01 looks like crap compared to the '05. IMO, the '05 is the best looking Mustang since the Fox cars. Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC > ahgnis@yahoo.com (Ahgnis) wrote in news:24b5a18b.0408211740.7ab00930 > @posting.google.com: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > IMO, the '05 is the best looking Mustang since the Fox cars. Seconded. Signature/ Garth - '83 GL V6stang Hatch <Former MW #7> \ | My V6stang: http://www.v6stang.com/v6stang | | RAMFM Merchandise: http://www.cafeshops.com/ramfm | \ Mail pgp@v6stang.com for secure reply information / > > ahgnis@yahoo.com (Ahgnis) wrote in news:24b5a18b.0408211740.7ab00930 > > @posting.google.com: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Seconded. Thirded. Don Manning > | My V6stang: http://www.v6stang.com/v6stang | > | RAMFM Merchandise: http://www.cafeshops.com/ramfm | > \ Mail pgp@v6stang.com for secure reply information / Bitch and Moan... this is the greatest news since they scrapped the pinto platform. Look at the other cars that will be made on the DEW platform.TBird, Lincoln Ls, Jag Sure they'll detune the chassis a little for price/model differentiation but that will make it easy to mod for real roadability. And a 200 hp base engine? Later, they can tune it for looks. >> ahgnis@yahoo.com (Ahgnis) wrote in news:24b5a18b.0408211740.7ab00930 >> @posting.google.com: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Seconded. > ahgnis@yahoo.com (Ahgnis) wrote in news:24b5a18b.0408211740.7ab00930 > @posting.google.com: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies > Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC Unfortunately, they went from this: http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/wallpaper/05/MustangGTCoupConcept10-WP.jpg To this: http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/shows/innovationdrive/AmyV6-SilverGT-2.jpg They also went from what looked like an interior with billet aluminum to the typical el cheapo interior we see on the Mustangs -Rich >> ahgnis@yahoo.com (Ahgnis) wrote in >> news:24b5a18b.0408211740.7ab00930 @posting.google.com: [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > -Rich It still looks better than _any_ sn95 or "edge" car. Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC >> ahgnis@yahoo.com (Ahgnis) wrote in news:24b5a18b.0408211740.7ab00930 >> @posting.google.com: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > To this: > http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/shows/innovationdrive/AmyV6-SilverGT-2.jpg I actually think they kept the important outside styling cues for the produciton car. Hopefully some of those dropped styling items will (re)appear on the SVT or the special editions. All-in-all, despite the slab-sided look, I think the car is pretty nice outside. > They also went from what looked like an interior with billet aluminum > to the typical el cheapo interior we see on the Mustangs I agree completely. The retro chromed plastic crap and deep, goofy tunnels around the instruments needed to stay in the '60's where they died. It was merely cheesy back then but on a modern car it's disgusting. I like shiny appointments on an interior but make them real metal or let me put them on myself later. As for the instrument cluster itself I just thank all the deities that the '03 Mach I designers were beaten into unconsciousness so that a silly retro dash didn't reappear on the production S197. Styling cues are one thing but the point is use them as *cues*, not bring everything including the bad, ugly stuff back to life :). SignatureDan 2003 Cobra convertible With some stuff and things > Unfortunately, they went from this: > http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/wallpaper/05/MustangGTCoupConcept10-WP.jp [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/shows/innovationdrive/AmyV6-SilverGT-2.jp > g I think it's the flared fenders that detracts from its looks, especially in the front. It makes it look droopy-nosed, like it has a bad cold. > > ahgnis@yahoo.com (Ahgnis) wrote in news:24b5a18b.0408211740.7ab00930 > > @posting.google.com: [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > -Rich I am going to reserve judgment until I see one up close and personal, but just going by those two pictures you have to admit the concept is a lot hotter looking than the real thing. I like the hood, grill and headlight area a lot better in the concept picture, JMO. Dennis >> Unfortunately, they went from this: >> http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/wallpaper/05/MustangGTCoupConcept10-WP.jpg [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > hotter looking than the real thing. I like the hood, grill and headlight > area a lot better in the concept picture, JMO. I agree. The concept car looks much better. If they made this big of a change to the front of the car, I hope the dash is less retro than the concept car. >Unfortunately, they went from this: >http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/wallpaper/05/MustangGTCoupConcept10-WP.jpg > >To this: >http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/shows/innovationdrive/AmyV6-SilverGT-2.jpg That's disappointing. The concept photo is what I've had as my PC wallpaper since it came out. This is the first I've seen of the production version, and I definitely won't be trading in my '02 GT on one. > >Unfortunately, they went from this: > >http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/wallpaper/05/MustangGTCoupConcept10-WP.jpg [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > production version, and I definitely won't be trading in my '02 GT on > one. The concept looked nice, too bad what came out. The real truth will emerge not from this NG but from sales figures. Personally, I would look at a GTO over this Mustang. Ahgnis > > That's disappointing. The concept photo is what I've had as my PC > > wallpaper since it came out. This is the first I've seen of the > > production version, and I definitely won't be trading in my '02 GT on > > one. > The concept looked nice, too bad what came out. The real truth will > emerge not from this NG but from sales figures. Personally, I would > look at a GTO over this Mustang. Guys, give the new design some time to grow on you. Seems every time a new Mustang comes out, a decent percentage of the Mustang enthusiasts think it's ugly. Then about 6 months to a year after its debut, that decent percentage shrinks a very small number. Just going back a few years, the '87, the '94, and the '99 designs were all criticized. Again, give it time. Patrick '93 Cobra '83 LTD > Guys, give the new design some time to grow on you. Have you heard any specific reasons why they changed the appearance so much? I liked the front end design of the concept car, but I think they changed the production design too much. I agree, a 97 GT Convertible was my first Mustang. I loved the smoothed look of it and how it flowed. In 99, when the new style came out, I about barfed as all of my flowing styling was replaced with much more defined lines. But after a year or two, I really started to dig it, at least, as much as my much pined for previous style. It looks aggressive and confident. Now, being the proud owner (at least for a little while longer, I'm selling it unfortunately because I'm relocated cross-country) of a 2003 Cobra Convertible I really love the styling. Just an example that, tastes and opinions do change over time. Especially when you're confronted with a drastic change from what you already know and love. [snip] > > Guys, give the new design some time to grow on you. Seems every time [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > '93 Cobra > '83 LTD SignatureMatt Kulka remove 'nospamplz.' from email address to email. aim: MrPerfectBlah Gotta disagree with you. Beauty is what you see it as. I drive a truck in Metro Detroit and have gotten to see these cars as they are camouflaged going down the e-way being tested. Can't wait to see what the Saleen version will look like and what kind of equipment he'll put in it...I'll never be able to afford it anyway! :-) Rory I thought it was nasty too when I saw the pictures in magazines and such. Then I saw a special on Speed Vision about it the other night, looks much better on TV or in person. Totally changed my mind. -Franklin '96 Cobra My opinion of Mustangs over the years: First models - Mid 1960s. Looks much like a Falcon (same chassis, I think). Aside from the Mustang embellishments, like the grill design) I didn't like it much. The muscle car is born. But I wasn't yet! Late 60s - early seventies - the heyday of the muscle car. I don't think there was a muscle car Ford, GM, or Chrysler... made that didn't look cool. Mid and late 70s. I'm kind of indifferent to these models. I think the Camaro/Firebird had a distinct advantage in the looks dept. 90s - early 90s: The Camaro/Firebird, although a very tired looking design now, it had a clear advantage then. The Mustang looked like a notch up from the Escort/EXP hatch back design. Thankfully it started looking better in the latter years of this model. The Later GTs with the ground effects looked cool, but still had a cheap hatchback look. Mid-Late 90s. I though it looked okay, but it was loosing the Mustang appeal. It was looking like just another jelly bean family mobile. The Camaro/Firebird took on that ugly rounded nose rubber tug look and that cheap Cavalier rear. I think it was this, in part, that caused sales to fall off and GM to finally kill the model. Late 90s to current: Ford re-sculpted the nose and tail. This really helped give the car its own character. It is a good looking car, but not as good as the cars from around the 1969 era. New 05s. I can't say much until I see it in person. It looks better than the current model though. Of course, all of this is IMO : ) John '03 GT > Just received a picture of this model, and I would not trade my 2001 > Mustang GT for 2 of these. Ford, you have finally destroyed the beauty > of the Mustang. > > Ahgnis >New 05s. I can't say much until I see it in person. It looks better than the >current model though. > >Of course, all of this is IMO : ) > >John '03 GT I saw a red GT with red int., brushed aluminum accents at Mustang Mania last month. Got to sit in it and I can tell you the seats are a lot more comfortable than the current Mustangs. It was parked across from two 65 fastbacks and a 67 fastback so you could see right away all the similiar exterior and interior styling cues. I for one think it's a big improvement over the current models and intend to buy one when it comes out. I like a platinum silver GT with red leather seats and brushed aluminum interior accents. Rumor in my neck of the woods is that it will be released Sept 7th ? Anybody know when it will hit dealer showrooms ? > My opinion of Mustangs over the years: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > now, it had a clear advantage then. The Mustang looked like a notch up from > the Escort/EXP hatch back design. Odd how the Escort came after the Mustang did. The Mustang was hatched (pun intended) before the Escort. So wouldn't the phrase "The escort looks like a a poorly designed notch-down from the Mustang", be more applicable? Don Manning ] Thankfully it started looking better in > the latter years of this model. The Later GTs with the ground effects looked > cool, but still had a cheap hatchback look. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > > > Ahgnis > Odd how the Escort came after the Mustang did. What's so odd about that? The Mustang came after the Falcon, right? doc > Just received a picture of this model, and I would not trade my 2001 > Mustang GT for 2 of these. Ford, you have finally destroyed the beauty > of the Mustang. > > Ahgnis The first prototype was better looking, but perhaps too aggressive considering 55% of the buyers are women who buy a 6 cyl. IMO, the 1994-1999 model was too rounded, too foreign looking. I was glad when they went to the more rakish look for 2000, so I got a 2001 GT to replace my 1993 LX. Then I got the Mach-1 because I don't see the 3-valve thing being as good an engine in the upcoming GT as the 4 valve in my Mach-1. SN-95 body style is 94-98. 99 started the new "boxy" design. -Mike -- A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT Cold air intake FRPP 3.73 gears Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter Full Boar turbo mufflers Hi-speed fan switch 255/60R-15 rear tires > > Just received a picture of this model, and I would not trade my 2001 > > Mustang GT for 2 of these. Ford, you have finally destroyed the beauty [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Then I got the Mach-1 because I don't see the 3-valve thing being as > good an engine in the upcoming GT as the 4 valve in my Mach-1. No offense, Mike, but I think both of those styles are fugly. The only thing worse was the '74-'78 PintoStang. Personally, my favorite was the '67-'69 style, which is probably why I like the '05. Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC > SN-95 body style is 94-98. 99 started the new "boxy" design. > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >> 3-valve thing being as good an engine in the upcoming GT as the 4 >> valve in my Mach-1. > No offense, Mike, but I think both of those styles are fugly. The > only thing worse was the '74-'78 PintoStang. > > Personally, my favorite was the '67-'69 style, which is probably why I > like the '05. I personally don't like any of the older Mustangs but the 'late '60s were the best of the bunch. I think the Fox bodies of the '80's were horrid. I like just about everything about the new Mustang except the interior. The interior is pretty bad to me. I'd get over it for the chassis though :). >> No offense, Mike, but I think both of those styles are fugly. The >> only thing worse was the '74-'78 PintoStang. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > interior. The interior is pretty bad to me. I'd get over it for the > chassis though :). I love the interior - the dash reminds me of a '69. Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC > Personally, my favorite was the '67-'69 style, which is probably why I > like the '05. Except that '69's are different from the previous years. Do you mean '67 & '68? SignatureScott W. '66 Mustang HCS 289 '68 Ranchero 500 302 '69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W '97 Cougar 30th Anniv SE 4.6L ThunderSnake #57 >> Personally, my favorite was the '67-'69 style, which is probably >> why I like the '05. > > Except that '69's are different from the previous years. Do you mean > '67 & '68? Should've clarified - I like the '67-'68 and also the '69. The '69 is closer to the '67-'68, moreso than the '70s on up and the '65-'66. Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC I like 94-98 body style... actually, I like everything from 86 and up.. or is it 87 & up.. i believe 86 & up. Except the 05... I can't stand the friggin 05!!!!!! Ah well. Maybe it'll change when I see one in person. I've only seen pictures. My favorite "old school" Mustang is probably 73.. I like that.. -Mike -- A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT Cold air intake FRPP 3.73 gears Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter Full Boar turbo mufflers Hi-speed fan switch 255/60R-15 rear tires > No offense, Mike, but I think both of those styles are fugly. The > only thing worse was the '74-'78 PintoStang. [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > >> 3-valve thing being as good an engine in the upcoming GT as the 4 > >> valve in my Mach-1. > SN-95 body style is 94-98. 99 started the new "boxy" design. Not to pick nits but the '99+ is SN-95 as well. The designation is for the chassis not the body style. The '99+ body was often referred to as "New Edge" but the chassis is still SN-95. SignatureDan 2003 Cobra convertible With some stuff and things Ah... thx for that. -Mike -- A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT Cold air intake FRPP 3.73 gears Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter Full Boar turbo mufflers Hi-speed fan switch 255/60R-15 rear tires > > SN-95 body style is 94-98. 99 started the new "boxy" design. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > 2003 Cobra convertible > With some stuff and things From what I've seen of the 05 coming soon, I ... * Dislike the front end. Wishing they would not have gone SO retro with the "flatness" of that front end and those big, round lights! Wondering how many years before they let go of the 60's "look" and move ahead again. * Like the rest of the exterior, mostly... the wheels on the GT do not impress me. * Do not like the dashboard. Again, wishing they had not gone quite so retro with that. * DO LOVE the seats and decision to move the seatbelts and the levers to tilt front seats for easier rear seat entry/exit! * DO like how they made the car wider and longer for more comfort and better ride and wider stance. * DO like how they moved the battery and shifted other things to give a much better front/rear weight balance! * DO LOVE that new 24 valve GT engine with the variable valve timing and ?300? HP!!! Scotter 96 GT Convertible 3.73 gears K&N Filtercharger I have a stock looking 89 LX 5.0. Have wanted to replace it for several years because of efficiency and increased safety of newer models (air bags, etc.). However I love the look of the late 80's and early 90's mustangs and have not been impressed by the 94+ models. I passed up the chance to get a leftover new 03 cobra vert for $30K last April because I really didn't like the cobra wheels or the red accented leather interior. I have hopes for the 05 mustang but have only seen pictures on the Ford web site. My concerns so far Non functional "wing" on trunk (probably can be easily removed or trunk lid replaced with 6 cyl trunk lid). Funky looking instruments. Other than that it looks good and I will be very interested. Have to see what the convertible looks like. Howard 1989 LX 5.0 vert 3.73/subframe connectors/camber plates/tower struts/springs/shocks The interior definitly needs work. I like the exteriour though. I am going to wait for the convertable to come out in 2006 before I pass judgement. Note to Ford, I don't want the interiour of my Mustang looking like a reject concept from the Jetsons. Nick > Just received a picture of this model, and I would not trade my 2001 > Mustang GT for 2 of these. Ford, you have finally destroyed the beauty > of the Mustang. > > Ahgnis > The interior definitly needs work. I like the exteriour though. I am > going to wait for the convertable to come out in 2006 before I pass > judgement. > > Note to Ford, I don't want the interiour of my Mustang looking like a > reject concept from the Jetsons. Ay-mehn! SignatureDan 2003 Cobra convertible With some stuff and things I have a 99, 35th anniversary, v6 coupe. I wouldn't trade it either. I first saw the new 05s up close at the New York auto show a few weeks ago. I looked at these cars and turned to the rep and had ask if they were actual production models. They look like unfinished concept cars to me. > Just received a picture of this model, and I would not trade my 2001 > Mustang GT for 2 of these. Ford, you have finally destroyed the beauty > of the Mustang. > > Ahgnis > I have a 99, 35th anniversary, v6 coupe. I wouldn't trade it either. I > first saw the new 05s up close at the New York auto show a few weeks [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > > Ahgnis My opinion on this is: 1) The 2005 Mustangs have a better looking front 2) The 1999-2004 mustangs have a better looking rear and side look I think that the 2005's dont look as "aggressive". That is one reason why I went from my '00 GT to an 05 Subaru Impreza WRX STi - that and the handling, cheap updgrades and high-end hardware & AWD. Still really like Mustangs, and would definitely consider the Cobra GT500 whenever it becomes available (hopefully in a 500HP package, but the problem I am seeing is that despite the higher HP numbers, the new "tuner" Mustangs are showing lower performance than the stock 2005 GT). Musty. >> I have a 99, 35th anniversary, v6 coupe. I wouldn't trade it either. I >> first saw the new 05s up close at the New York auto show a few weeks [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >1) The 2005 Mustangs have a better looking front >2) The 1999-2004 mustangs have a better looking rear and side look I Think the rear end looks unfinished. Depending on the color of the car, I think it would look good if it were painted black on the area between the two tail lights where the gas filler is located. Especially on a light colored car, like yellow or white. -- lab~rat >:-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere? >I have a 99, 35th anniversary, v6 coupe. I wouldn't trade it either. I >first saw the new 05s up close at the New York auto show a few weeks [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> >> Ahgnis No accountring for taste I guess, and to each hie own. Strange that it's the hottest selling stang in a long while... >I have a 99, 35th anniversary, v6 coupe. I wouldn't trade it either. I >first saw the new 05s up close at the New York auto show a few weeks ago. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> >> Ahgnis I like the 05. The front and side looks good to me. the rear is fair. The rear of the 99-04 does look better to me too as the other poster pointed out. I thought the edgy look of the 99-04 was a big improvement over the nearly family sedan look of the previous years. Car designers have to restrain themselves when creating a new design. Some new designs with a hot look seem to "burn out" quick and stop selling. I think GM pushed the Camaro/Firebird design too far. The bathtub cockpit was not comfortable for many and the styling was a bit overdone and became tiresome to look at. The firebird's "rubber tug" front end and the Camaro's Cavalier like rear didn't help things. John >>I have a 99, 35th anniversary, v6 coupe. I wouldn't trade it either. I >>first saw the new 05s up close at the New York auto show a few weeks ago. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >Cavalier like rear didn't help things. >John Ugly??? Nope! http://members.cox.net/jherring/pony.html SignatureJohn H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." > I have a 99, 35th anniversary, v6 coupe. I wouldn't trade it either. I > first saw the new 05s up close at the New York auto show a few weeks > ago. I looked at these cars and turned to the rep and had ask if they > were actual production models. They look like unfinished concept cars > to me. The unfinished look is why I didn't wait to buy one. The GT500 however has the exact look that I had expected the GT to have. >I have a 99, 35th anniversary, v6 coupe. I wouldn't trade it either. I >first saw the new 05s up close at the New York auto show a few weeks ago. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> >> Ahgnis I find it very odd that you're responding now to a post that goes back to at least August, 2004. Would you like to take a little time to get caught up, or will you be bringing back other "golden oldies" at random? dwight > I find it very odd that you're responding now to a post that goes back to at > least August, 2004. Would you like to take a little time to get caught up, > or will you be bringing back other "golden oldies" at random? Boy, that Mustang II really blows. Because, I just added this group and this one of the first posts I saw. I wasn't aware I had couldn't answer what I came across to keep some anal retentive people happy. >>I have a 99, 35th anniversary, v6 coupe. I wouldn't trade it either. I >>first saw the new 05s up close at the New York auto show a few weeks ago. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > dwight |
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