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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / August 2004

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mark james - 26 Aug 2004 16:16 GMT
   Went to the track last week, and wanted some input on my results.  I ran
the 1/8 mile track at Sealey, TX...  My fastest time was 7.07 at 101 mph.  A
few guys there stated that my 60 foot time of 1.76 should have been a little
better with a mph like that.  What do you guys think?  Anyone running about
the same, and what were your 60 foot times?  I am running 28" Mickey's ET
streets, with a 4.56 gear... 66 coupe.
Thanks for the input.
Mark
ps- might be a little too much tire pressure at 15 pounds...  what do you
guys run at the track?
MadDAWG - 26 Aug 2004 17:48 GMT
>     Went to the track last week, and wanted some input on my results.  I ran
> the 1/8 mile track at Sealey, TX...  My fastest time was 7.07 at 101 mph.  A
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> ps- might be a little too much tire pressure at 15 pounds...  what do you
> guys run at the track?

I think we need more info to base a answer on. The first thing that came to
mind was what type of tranny and launch style/converter size.  Also some
info on the rest of the drive train would help.  Your 60 ft could be low,
but with a 4.56 gear I'm guessing this is a low torque high rpm setup which
may slow down the 60 ft.. My 89 LX with 4.10 gears, 5 speed tranny, and mild
342 cid ran a best of 1.57 60 ft, but ran outta breath early and only went
12.40 @ 109 mph.  The same motor in an 95 with an AODE w/3000 stall and 3.55
gears ran a 12.70 at 109 with a 1.80 60 ft.  Your 1/8 mile times should put
you in the low 11 second zone in the 1/4 mile so I would think that your
60ft would be better, but I tell if its spinning or just lazy.

MadDAWG
mrQ - 27 Aug 2004 00:47 GMT
Ok, so here's some more information....  302, solid lifter cam, makes power
in the upper range.  4500 stall, c-4 with a brake, running nitrous, 200 HP
jets...  Ford 9", 4.56 gear with spool, leaving the line at about 3000 right
now.  I'm going again tomorrow night if everything works out well.  I am
going down to 11 pounds on the tire pressure to see if that helps... also,
found a problem yesterday with the WOT switch for the juice.
 We'll be able to tell more information after a Friday night visit to the
strip.  I know when I go to the 1/4 mile track, I will have to go to my
4.11's...  The shift light was coming on at the end of the 1/8 mile...(no
more gears!)
Mark

>     Went to the track last week, and wanted some input on my results.  I
ran
> the 1/8 mile track at Sealey, TX...  My fastest time was 7.07 at 101 mph.A
> few guys there stated that my 60 foot time of 1.76 should have been a
little
> better with a mph like that.  What do you guys think?  Anyone running
about
> the same, and what were your 60 foot times?  I am running 28" Mickey's ET
> streets, with a 4.56 gear... 66 coupe.
> Thanks for the input.
> Mark
> ps- might be a little too much tire pressure at 15 pounds...  what do you
> guys run at the track?

I think we need more info to base a answer on. The first thing that came to
mind was what type of tranny and launch style/converter size.  Also some
info on the rest of the drive train would help.  Your 60 ft could be low,
but with a 4.56 gear I'm guessing this is a low torque high rpm setup which
may slow down the 60 ft.. My 89 LX with 4.10 gears, 5 speed tranny, and mild
342 cid ran a best of 1.57 60 ft, but ran outta breath early and only went
12.40 @ 109 mph.  The same motor in an 95 with an AODE w/3000 stall and 3.55
gears ran a 12.70 at 109 with a 1.80 60 ft.  Your 1/8 mile times should put
you in the low 11 second zone in the 1/4 mile so I would think that your
60ft would be better, but I tell if its spinning or just lazy.

MadDAWG
MadDAWG - 27 Aug 2004 10:18 GMT
> Ok, so here's some more information....  302, solid lifter cam, makes power
> in the upper range.  4500 stall, c-4 with a brake, running nitrous, 200 HP
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> more gears!)
> Mark

I would think there is some more to gain in the 60ft for sure. I do think
you need to leave harder than 3000 rpm if possible. Also if you can have
someone video tape your rear tire on luanch. You can paint a white stripe on
the side to help you tell the rotation speeds.   Just think if you get
another couple tenths in the 6 ft you'll be easily in the 6 second zone for
the 1/8th.  :)

MadDAWG
mark james - 30 Aug 2004 13:19 GMT
yup... you are correct.  Went back to the strip, and busted out a 1.53 60
foot time.  Letting air out of the tires certainly helped, as did getting my
cut-outs installed friday afternoon for the exhaust....  I think it was
being restricted quite a bit .... on the motor alone (no juice) the car
improved dramatically....  went from a 8.19 to a 7.84.  On the nitrous (and
hitting the darn rev limiter twice), ran a 6.89.  It was quite a ride.  I
got the front left tire  off the ground for the first time ever.  :-)
    I moved the shift point down a bit so I wouldn't hit the rev limiter,
and was ready to go to the high 6.50's range, when I ran out of nitrous.
It's a trial and error, for sure.  The car is new to me, and I have to feel
out all of the do's and don'ts.   i was very happy with the 60 foot
times...went from a 1.76, to a 1.53...not too bad IMO.
Thanks, and more to come next Friday.... if all goes well, I am going to
bump up the nitrius to 275 jets....stil running  the 200 jets.  The previous
owner ran a best of 6.30@ 109 mph.
Mark

mrQ" <mr-Q@spamsux.com> wrote in message news:412e763c@news.tisd.net...
> Ok, so here's some more information....  302, solid lifter cam, makes
power
> in the upper range.  4500 stall, c-4 with a brake, running nitrous, 200 HP
> jets...  Ford 9", 4.56 gear with spool, leaving the line at about 3000
right
> now.  I'm going again tomorrow night if everything works out well.  I am
> going down to 11 pounds on the tire pressure to see if that helps... also,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> more gears!)
> Mark

I would think there is some more to gain in the 60ft for sure. I do think
you need to leave harder than 3000 rpm if possible. Also if you can have
someone video tape your rear tire on luanch. You can paint a white stripe on
the side to help you tell the rotation speeds.   Just think if you get
another couple tenths in the 6 ft you'll be easily in the 6 second zone for
the 1/8th.  :)

MadDAWG

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GEB - 31 Aug 2004 08:13 GMT
"mark james" wrote in a message:
> yup... you are correct.  Went back to the strip, and busted out a 1.53 60
> foot time.  Letting air out of the tires certainly helped, as did getting my
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> owner ran a best of 6.30@ 109 mph.
> Mark

Sounds like your getting it all sorted out. What were you launching at?
Let's see, a C4 with a brake, and a 4500 stall converter. I'd try launching
around 4300 to 4500 rpms, providing you have enough slick under the car.
BTW, where does it redline at?

Gary
Buzz Haze - 27 Aug 2004 04:47 GMT
>     Went to the track last week, and wanted some input on my results.  I ran
> the 1/8 mile track at Sealey, TX...  My fastest time was 7.07 at 101 mph.  A
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> ps- might be a little too much tire pressure at 15 pounds...  what do you
> guys run at the track?

Hi Mark,

I run a stock engine 87 coupe.....when I say stock I mean everything
under the hood is *bone* stock except the K&N filter and a short belt.
The rest of the car has been worked (exhaust, suspension, gears, weight)
It has a full interior minus the back seat. The heater core, wipers etc
are all there since I drive it on the street and to the track every week.

It's a 5 speed, 4:10's, spooled & caged.
28X11.5 MT ET Streets @ 10 pounds.

I do a burnout in 2nd gear with a line-lock
I launch at 5000-5500 RPM, pop the clutch (in first)
1.66 - 1.68 sixty foot
8.22 @ 82 MPH in the 1/8th
12.97 @ 104 MPH in the 1/4

It's a bit of an oddity so it may not help you but it does
show you how much you can improve your 60ft's with
very little horsepower.

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Buzz Haze-Ottawa ON
87 5.0 LX Coupe
http://members.rogers.com/buzzhaze
 
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