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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / September 2004

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95 Mustang GT - A lot of pinging

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Scribble - 17 Sep 2004 16:09 GMT
I have tried changing gas and it does not stop the pinging and rattling.  I
talked to the parts counter at our local Ford dealer and he told me to pull
the negative cable from the battery for 10 to 20 minutes then run the car
hard for 30 miles.  Another said I needed a small gasket replaced.  I
purchased the gasket since it was only $2.50 but have not replaced it yet.
I can't even remember what it went to.  Just that the part sits back by the
firewall.

Any advice out there?  The car has lost some power and rattles A LOT with
the car climbs hills and when you get on it.
memset@recorddeal.com - 17 Sep 2004 17:51 GMT
How many miles are on the car? If a lot, I'd give the car a basic tuneup &
work from there.

1.) Clean MAF sensor with electrical parts cleaner only
2.) Clean IAT/ACT sensor with electrical parts cleaner only
3.) Check/clean/replace air filter (depending on which type you have)
4.) Test/regap/replace spark plugs
5.) Test/replace ignition wires
6.) Replace fuel filter
7.) Check/clean/replace EGR valve (very neglected--and recently the cause of
my pinging problem!!)

I'd try those first. If you do all of that & the pinging is still there...
ya got me! My car started pinging with 91 octane... so I cleaned the EGR
valve & pinging went away with 87 octane even. Good luck, bud.

-Mike

--
A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
Cold air intake
FRPP 3.73 gears
Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
Full Boar turbo mufflers
Hi-speed fan switch
255/60R-15 rear tires
Subframe connectors

> I have tried changing gas and it does not stop the pinging and rattling.  I
> talked to the parts counter at our local Ford dealer and he told me to pull
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> Any advice out there?  The car has lost some power and rattles A LOT with
> the car climbs hills and when you get on it.
Scribble - 30 Sep 2004 15:15 GMT
The car has 140k.  It ran great until about a year ago, around 130k.

Bill mentioned that a check engine light started coming on.  My check engine
light has not come on but the Coolant Light comes on all the time.  I have
checked the coolant and kept it to the full mark but it is still on.  I
figured a level sensor is going out and as long as I keep it full, it should
be ok.  Right?

> How many miles are on the car? If a lot, I'd give the car a basic tuneup &
> work from there.
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> > Any advice out there?  The car has lost some power and rattles A LOT with
> > the car climbs hills and when you get on it.
barbara johnson - 30 Sep 2004 16:04 GMT
scribble   i had the same problem and this is what was the problem on my 95.
The harmonic balancer was coming apart gradually due to a oil leak at the
front of the pan causing the engine to over advance upon rpm. Eventually the
harmonic balancer finally came apart with believe it or not no damage to the
radiator or anything else. Hope this helps
Barb
> The car has 140k.  It ran great until about a year ago, around 130k.
>
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> with
> > > the car climbs hills and when you get on it.
Mr. Ford - 17 Sep 2004 22:13 GMT
>I have tried changing gas and it does not stop the pinging and rattling.  I
> talked to the parts counter at our local Ford dealer and he told me to
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Any advice out there?  The car has lost some power and rattles A LOT with
> the car climbs hills and when you get on it.

Scribble I'm coming in while missing the initial thread, the gasket goes to
the EGR solenoid switch located on the passenger side firewall.
If this pinging started after your last re-fuel it could be bad gas, the
injectors may be dirty an easy corrective would be to burn out or empty out
the tank (This won't be easy) or get an octane booster and injector cleaner
and put it in and fill the tank with fresh gas. If the ping stays I
recommend that the ecm needs to be tested to see if any fault codes pop up.
The ECM may need a "re-flash".
Rein - 18 Sep 2004 17:25 GMT
>I have tried changing gas and it does not stop the pinging and rattling.  I
>talked to the parts counter at our local Ford dealer and he told me to pull
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Any advice out there?  The car has lost some power and rattles A LOT with
>the car climbs hills and when you get on it.

It's common on the 94 and 95GT's. I had a 95GT and it did the same
thing. I pretty much replaced/cleaned all the parts that are mentioned
in this thread and it was still there.
Then around 60K the HALL effect sensor in the distributor crapped out.
Dealer replaced it and when I got the car back the pinging was
completely gone ! At first I thought they backed the timing out since
they had to remove the distributor. I played around with it, bumping
it up quite a bit but I did NOT have any more pinging. Car ran great
until (and beyond I hope) I sold it at 92K. miles.

Two other things I would do also;
-Check the fuel pressure. Get (or borrow ) a fuel pressure tester and
run the test. See if it builds up enough pressure and if it holds the
pressure after switching the engine off.
-Run some Seafoam in your gas. This is a very strong cleaner that does
wonders. I think carquest sells it. not many others sell it.

How many miles does the car have on it ? Mine started pinging pretty
early in its life (30K or so ?)

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Bill Jones - 19 Sep 2004 06:32 GMT
>I have tried changing gas and it does not stop the pinging and rattling.  I
> talked to the parts counter at our local Ford dealer and he told me to
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Any advice out there?  The car has lost some power and rattles A LOT with
> the car climbs hills and when you get on it.

I had the same problem, where the pinging gradually got worse until about at
75K miles the check engine light started coming on.  The translated error
code was "lean condition."   A dirty (or bad) MAF sensor was the problem.
Replaced it, and the pinging went away, and the car ran as good as it ever
has.  ( a lot of times you can get away with simply cleaning the MAF sensor,
if you're careful not to break the thin wires).

The odometer just went over 100K miles today, and it's still running great!

-Bill
95 GT 5-speed
Backyard Mechanic - 19 Sep 2004 18:15 GMT
Bill Jones opined :
  A dirty (or bad) MAF
> sensor was the problem. Replaced it, and the pinging went away, and the
> car ran as good as it ever has.  ( a lot of times you can get away with
> simply cleaning the MAF sensor, if you're careful not to break the thin
> wires).

ONE MORE TIME!!!!!

That *&^^%$  thing IS NOT that fragile, you COULD even clean it with a
toothbrush.  Note I DID NOT say WIREBRUSH

More important is to not bend or move it... and dont use windex, no matter
what some have used... use electronics cleaner or even rubbing alcohol
memset@recorddeal.com - 19 Sep 2004 19:42 GMT
Heh yeah.. I've cleaned it a few times now & I've never had any problems w/
breaking it. It isn't THAT fragile.

-Mike

--
A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
Cold air intake
FRPP 3.73 gears
Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
Full Boar turbo mufflers
Hi-speed fan switch
255/60R-15 rear tires
Subframe connectors

> Bill Jones opined :
>    A dirty (or bad) MAF
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> More important is to not bend or move it... and dont use windex, no matter
> what some have used... use electronics cleaner or even rubbing alcohol
 
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