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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / October 2004

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static fuel pressure

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Jim S. - 12 Oct 2004 00:18 GMT
My 93 5.0 Liter was having some over-rich and stumbling problems lately.
After a bit of poking around I found out the static fuel pressure was
extremely low - 20psi. I adjusted upwards to the 48psi recommendation that
the manufacturer of my regulator suggests. I didn't notice this at first
because the vacuum regulated pressure was normal.  Since adjusting upward,
all problems have ceased.

My question is this, how would low static fuel pressure cause an over-rich
situation? Shouldn't it, if anything, cause a lean condition?

Jim S.
'82 Mutant
Rein - 12 Oct 2004 01:18 GMT
> My 93 5.0 Liter was having some over-rich and stumbling problems lately.
>After a bit of poking around I found out the static fuel pressure was
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>Jim S.
>'82 Mutant

It wouldn't. it will run lean. What makes you think it ran rich ?
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Jim S. - 12 Oct 2004 01:20 GMT
Black, gooey spark plugs.

> It wouldn't. it will run lean. What makes you think it ran rich ?
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Jim Warman - 12 Oct 2004 05:50 GMT
Black gooey spark plugs sounds like something other than gasoline...... How
much oil is this thing eating????

> Black, gooey spark plugs.
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> > It wouldn't. it will run lean. What makes you think it ran rich ?
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Jim S. - 12 Oct 2004 20:44 GMT
I don't think it's using oil. I've never noticed, and it only has circa 80k
on the motor. But, I'm due for a oil change, so I'll be sure to check
carefully.

I checked the plugs today - These are new plugs, about 350 miles old -- and
they're starting to get the black goo on them that raised my concern two
weeks ago. The fouling is uniform across all spark plugs.

I  pulled codes the old fashioned way (CEL) and I think (did I blink or did
the light?) I'm getting an IAC code.  I pulled the IAC off, and it looks
clean. I shot some carb cleaner at it, but I might replace it anyway. As far
as I know it's the original.

As it stands now, I haven't had any hesitation problems - probably due to
the new plugs - but it backfires and idles a bit high and rough. The
backfires are at startup and sound close to the engine. It's a series of
quiet bumps rather than pops. At idle it'll  subtly backfire every 5 seconds
or so, the idle will go to about 1400 and it'll run okay. Then, when it
drops back to sub-1000, the backfires will return.  If I turn it off then
start it up again quickly, the backfires will be much worse for a few
seconds, then return to the every 5 seconds rate.

The only thing I've done to the car -- pre hesitation/backfire problem --
was to change from an off-road H-pipe to the cat equipped X-pipe. I put all
the EGR/Thermactor stuff back on in the swap. Post problem I put in new
spark plugs, cleaned the IAC, O2 sensors, MAF and adjusted the fuel
pressure.

Other than the IAC I'm at a loss as to finding a solution.

Jim S.
'82 Mutant - 93 5 liter

> Black gooey spark plugs sounds like something other than gasoline...... How
> much oil is this thing eating????
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> > > It wouldn't. it will run lean. What makes you think it ran rich ?
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Dinsdale - 12 Oct 2004 22:37 GMT
There is a condition known as wet-fouled which can be caused by oil or
an overly rich air/fuel condition, stuck choke, or spark plug heat
range too cold.

See #3 on the following page

http://www.splitfire.com/plugtips.htm

I also read somwhere that a bad fuel regulator was leaking fuel into a
vacuum line...replacing the regulator cured the sputtering and rough
running.

>I don't think it's using oil. I've never noticed, and it only has circa 80k
>on the motor. But, I'm due for a oil change, so I'll be sure to check
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>> > > It wouldn't. it will run lean. What makes you think it ran rich ?
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Rein - 13 Oct 2004 03:50 GMT
Hmm, are sure you have the correct plugs. Also, make sure the wires go
to the correct plugs !
Backfiring at idle should definitely not happen.
I wonder if your injectors are leaky?
20psi is way too low for fuelpressure.

>I don't think it's using oil. I've never noticed, and it only has circa 80k
>on the motor. But, I'm due for a oil change, so I'll be sure to check
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>> > > It wouldn't. it will run lean. What makes you think it ran rich ?
>> > > Remove NO-SPAM from email address when replying

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Jim S. - 14 Oct 2004 03:58 GMT
New IAC and second set of new plugs = no problems!

woohoo!

Jim S.
'82 Mutant
 
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