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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / January 2005OT: NoOp's Latest "Hot Pick"
NoOp's latest Hot Pick is a band called "The Killers". Don't let their name fool you... their music could have come from early MTV archives and their live performance reminds me a little of Nirvana. 1)Go to MTV.com 2)Search for "The Killers" 3)Look at the list of their videos 4)Look for the live video of "All these things that I've done" It's an acoustic. Also checkout the Killers' "Mr. Brightside" video. Patrick '93 Cobra So... if I say "Jerry and the Pacemakers", you're gonna say???? Anyone catch Clapton and Roger Waters the other night on the Tsunami concert? Anyone actually donated?? > NoOp's latest Hot Pick is a band called "The Killers". Don't let their > name fool you... their music could have come from early MTV archives [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Patrick > '93 Cobra > So... if I say "Jerry and the Pacemakers", you're gonna say???? Anyone > catch Clapton and Roger Waters the other night on the Tsunami concert? > Anyone actually donated?? Dang.. I wanted to see them but I forgot about it until after the fact. They were supposed to do "Wish You Were Here".  SignatureDavid M (dmacchiarolo) http://home.triad.rr.com/redsled T/S 53 sled351 Linux 2.4.18-14 has been up 3 days 17:14 > So... if I say "Jerry and the Pacemakers", you're gonna say???? Shuffleboard and old people...? Patrick Close.... I was thinking multicarb engines on the showroom floor... the horsepower wars.... the NHRA fuel ban.... multi-engine dragsters.... casual sex without galoshes... and draft beer (real Canajun beer - not that witch piss you guys drink) for 10 cents a glass. Where were you in '62?? > > So... if I say "Jerry and the Pacemakers", you're gonna say???? > Shuffleboard and old people...? > > Patrick > Close.... I was thinking multicarb engines on the showroom floor... > the horsepower wars.... the NHRA fuel ban.... multi-engine [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Where were you in '62?? I was riding around (as a passenger, of course) in my Dad's '57 Merc. Awesome car. Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC Found "Mr. Brightside" but couldn't find "All These Things That I've Done"... can you get a link? The only other songs they had were "Smile Like You Mean It" and "Somebody Told Me". I didn't listen to them so maybe it's one of those and you had the name wrong. > So... if I say "Jerry and the Pacemakers", you're gonna say???? Anyone catch > Clapton and Roger Waters the other night on the Tsunami concert? Anyone [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >>Patrick >>'93 Cobra > Found "Mr. Brightside" but couldn't find "All These Things That I've > Done"... can you get a link? The only other songs they had were "Smile > Like You Mean It" and "Somebody Told Me". I didn't listen to them so > maybe it's one of those and you had the name wrong. Here you go, Hucklebuck. Great vocals, lyrics, just great music... it's a modern classic... turn it up, loud! http://music.channel.aol.com/artist/main.adp?tab=av&artistid=643632 Scroll to the video for, and click on "All these things I've..." Aftering watching this video, how can anyone say this young generation doesn't know how to rock? Patrick '93 Cobra > > So... if I say "Jerry and the Pacemakers", you're gonna say???? Anyone catch > > Clapton and Roger Waters the other night on the Tsunami concert? Anyone [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >>Patrick > >>'93 Cobra NoOption5L@aol.com wrote in news:1106274074.059093.163980 @c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: >> Found "Mr. Brightside" but couldn't find "All These Things That I've >> Done"... can you get a link? The only other songs they had were [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Patrick > '93 Cobra "Oh Hi. I'm Ronnie, and... that's Brandon. We're from the Killers." <rowlf> Patrick, you've GOT to be kidding. If this is representative of this "young generation's" rock music, please put a bullet in my head now. These guys absolutely __SUCK__. The singer can't sing (he's flat more than he's on key) and the guitar player is one of the lamest guys I've ever heard. Even Allison Robertson from The Donnas kicks this guys a.s big time. The bass player can't play more than about 10 notes, and the drummer is mediocre at best. You want good, current rock? Listen to Hoobastank or Nickelback. The Killers is a great example of no-talent morons who shouldn't have ever gotten a recording contract. Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC > NoOption5L@aol.com wrote in news:1106274074.059093.163980 > @c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: > >> Found "Mr. Brightside" but couldn't find "All These Things That > I've [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > so > >> maybe it's one of those and you had the name wrong. > > Here you go, Hucklebuck. Great vocals, lyrics, just great music... > > it's a modern classic... turn it up, loud! > > http://music.channel.aol.com/artist/main.adp?tab=av&artistid=643632 > > Scroll to the video for, and click on "All these things I've..." > > Aftering watching this video, how can anyone say this young > > generation doesn't know how to rock? > "Oh Hi. I'm Ronnie, and... that's Brandon. We're from the Killers." > <rowlf> > Patrick, you've GOT to be kidding. Joe, I never kidd about things like this. >If this is representative of this "young generation's" rock music, please put >a bullet in my head now. The punk sceen that reemerged a few years ago is now giving way to new influences. One of the influences is New Wave is making a comeback. Makes sense since the people coming in to power at the record companies grew up during the early days of MTV. > These guys absolutely __SUCK__. I call them refreshing. Gotta stay current. > The singer can't sing (he's flat more than he's on key) and the guitar > player is one of the lamest guys I've ever heard. Even Allison > Robertson from The Donnas kicks this guys a.s big time. The bass > player can't play more than about 10 notes, and the drummer is > mediocre at best. I think they're regular guys playing great music without the help of masks, makeup, or a gimmic. > You want good, current rock? Listen to Hoobastank or Nickelback. Hoobastank is very generic... typical popular radio fare. Nickelback was decent way back in '99 with their "The State" release. Since then they've become yet another sound-a-like band. > The Killers is a great example of no-talent morons who shouldn't have ever > gotten a recording contract. And you're one who doesn't like Jack White/White Stripes (Cold Mountain and Lorreta Lynn's latest), right? Patrick '93 Cobra '83 LTD NoOption5L@aol.com wrote in news:1106341175.817606.110820 @c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: >> NoOption5L@aol.com wrote in news:1106274074.059093.163980 >> @c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > Makes sense since the people coming in to power at the record companies > grew up during the early days of MTV. Whatever you want to call it, it's still horrible. I stand by my comment: >> These guys absolutely __SUCK__. > > I call them refreshing. Gotta stay current. There's current good and current bad. The Killers are current bad. >> The singer can't sing (he's flat more than he's on key) and the > guitar [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I think they're regular guys playing great music without the help of > masks, makeup, or a gimmic. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but as a musician, I can tell you that these guys have absolutely no talent. >> You want good, current rock? Listen to Hoobastank or Nickelback. > > Hoobastank is very generic... typical popular radio fare. This tells me that you've never really listened to them (if you think the Killers are good, I really don't know _what_ you're listening to). They're lyrics and melodies are original, their musicianship is outstanding, and their production is fabulous. Each track on their latest CD is unique. They're just one great band. > Nickelback > was decent way back in '99 with their "The State" release. Since then > they've become yet another sound-a-like band. Who do they sound like? Again, have you _listened_ to them? Their album 'The Long Road' is great. And they are actually musicians, unlike The Killers. >> The Killers is a great example of no-talent morons who shouldn't have > ever [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > '93 Cobra > '83 LTD Actually, I haven't heard it. But I like Loretta Lynn a lot. Jack White I can do without. Patrick, you want more current and _good_? Listen to the new Greenday, or even the latest Incubus. Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC > >> >> Found "Mr. Brightside" but couldn't find "All These Things That > >> I've [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > companies > > grew up during the early days of MTV. > Whatever you want to call it, it's still horrible. I stand by my > comment: Young kids throwing a band together... maybe not polished but that's okay with me. Like how college or even the high school sports are more enjoyable to watch than the pros. > >> These guys absolutely __SUCK__. > > I call them refreshing. Gotta stay current. > There's current good and current bad. The Killers are current bad. Okay, we both know where each of us stand on these guys. I love 'em; you hate 'em. Now how about the Black Keys, The Future Heads, Lucero, Modest Mouse or the Kings of Leon? > >> The singer can't sing (he's flat more than he's on key) and the > > guitar > >> player is one of the lamest guys I've ever heard. Even Allison > >> Robertson from The Donnas kicks this guys a.s big time. The bass > >> player can't play more than about 10 notes, and the drummer is > >> mediocre at best. > > I think they're regular guys playing great music without the help of > > masks, makeup, or a gimmic. > Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but as a musician, I can tell > you that these guys have absolutely no talent. Rock and Roll is often more about creativity than pure talent. Case in point: David Lee Roth had absolutely no singing ability. But this didn't stop him from being the front man of one of the most popular bands of all time. > >> You want good, current rock? Listen to Hoobastank or Nickelback. > > Hoobastank is very generic... typical popular radio fare. > This tells me that you've never really listened to them (if you think > the Killers are good, I really don't know _what_ you're listening to). > They're lyrics and melodies are original, their musicianship is > outstanding, and their production is fabulous. Each track on their > latest CD is unique. They're just one great band. Talent can be good if they create something unique with it. From what I've heard from Hoobastank, there hasn't been anything there that make wants me to do anything more than use their stuff for background music. > > Nickelback > > was decent way back in '99 with their "The State" release. Since > then > > they've become yet another sound-a-like band. > Who do they sound like? Again, have you _listened_ to them? Their > album 'The Long Road' is great. And they are actually musicians, > unlike The Killers. They excited me back in '99, but their music has become pasturized. They could take one of their old CDs, slap a new title on it and no one would notice. > >> The Killers is a great example of no-talent morons who shouldn't > have > > ever > >> gotten a recording contract. > > And you're one who doesn't like Jack White/White Stripes (Cold > Mountain > > and Lorreta Lynn's latest), right? > Actually, I haven't heard it. But I like Loretta Lynn a lot. Jack > White I can do without. I'm not a country fan, but I bought her CD. It has a pleasent unrehearshed sound. It's good, very good. Jack White is all about recording the song before it gets too polished. He does a couple run throughs and then it's recorded. Not this over and over again until it's "perfect", but by then the enthusiasm behind it is gone. > Patrick, you want more current and _good_? Listen to the new > Greenday, or even the latest Incubus. Yes, I like Green Day! Their music has always been very good and their new stuff is still good. Like to see them return to their roots with the next CD though. Incubus is good, but haven't listened to them in a while. Patrick >Yes, I like Green Day! Their music has always been very good and their >new stuff is still good. One of my all time favs. American Idiot is awesome. Listened to it repeatedly on a 6 hour drive over Turkey-Day. ///Mike TS #63 1993 BMW 525i http://community.webshots.com/user/mpompe2 Pics of all the old cars - Newly updated >>Yes, I like Green Day! Their music has always been very good and their >>new stuff is still good. > > One of my all time favs. American Idiot is awesome. Listened to it > repeatedly > on a 6 hour drive over Turkey-Day. I was a huge fan of Green Day in high school. I loved Longview when it first came out on video (my first exposure to it), then a few weeks later, they played Basket Case on Letterman before the song ever hit the airwaves, and I knew they'd be big. 1,039 Smoothed Out Slappy Hours was a good album - a bit rough, and with a less talented drummer, but they had promise. Kerplunk was their first album with the new drummer. After a few good songs (including the original print of "Welcome to Paradise") they added a few cover songs which weren't the greatest. Dookie was great, Insomniac pretty damn good, and Nimrod was good as well... had its highs and lows. I bought all of them. Warning, in my opinion, wasn't worth burning to a 10 cent CD-R. They strayed too far from their roots and their fan base started tuning out. I understand, we're all growing up now, but some of those songs were just miserable. American Idiot I've not yet heard the whole way through. The title track is musically much closer to Insomniac, but the song itself has much more of a political slant than I ever imagined Green Day having. As a pick-it-up-once-in-a-blue-moon bassist, I'll say that this is probably the first fast-paced Green Day song I found easy to play - I don't know if Mike's slacking or if this is his break song. Lots of quiet time, and the only challenging thing is a pretty quick slide-hammer. I'd like to hear the whole album after hearing you and Patrick saying it's pretty good... JS NoOption5L@aol.com wrote in news:1106370338.422721.161380 @f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: >> >> >> Found "Mr. Brightside" but couldn't find "All These Things That >> >> I've [quoted text clipped - 133 lines] > > Patrick OK, so let's agree to disagree overall. I listen to music both as a listener and a musician. It kills me (no pun intended) to no end to hear no-talents get record contracts while hundreds of deserving artists get no recognition at all. I get your point about kids making music in their garage, but there's a line to be drawn as far as talent goes. Not everybody who picks up a guitar should be playing it, and not everyone who can talk should sing. I think The Killers are in that category. Last question (ridiculous, but it makes a point): What's to separate guys like William Hung from The Killers? Sure, Hung's a joke at this point, but neither of them have any real talent. Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC > OK, so let's agree to disagree overall. I listen to music both as a > listener and a musician. It kills me (no pun intended) to no end to > hear no-talents get record contracts while hundreds of deserving > artists get no recognition at all. Joe, I think with you being a musician you listen more for how well someone is able to hit the "highs and lows" to destinguish what is "good or bad." Nothing at all wrong with that... but in a way, it's _sort_ of like someone who loves opera but wouldn't stoop way down to listen to rock and roll. Opera is exact. Rock isn't always meant to be. Does that make sense? > I get your point about kids making music in their garage, but there's > a line to be drawn as far as talent goes. Not everybody who picks up > a guitar should be playing it, and not everyone who can talk should > sing. I think The Killers are in that category. > Last question (ridiculous, but it makes a point): What's to separate > guys like William Hung from The Killers? Sure, Hung's a joke at this > point, but neither of them have any real talent. Hung is not creative. He is simply trying to parrot, and doing a terrible job at it, other people's music. The Killers are a young bunch of kids trying to give it a go... they may get better as they progress and learn, or they may die on the vine. Patrick NoOption5L@aol.com wrote in news:1106425140.276799.205000 @f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: >> OK, so let's agree to disagree overall. I listen to music both as a >> listener and a musician. It kills me (no pun intended) to no end to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > listen to rock and roll. Opera is exact. Rock isn't always meant to > be. Does that make sense? Yes, but I don't think it applies here. Watching the video, the guy is obviously trying to sing the melody in the song's opening while he's playing the keyboard, but he's not hitting the notes at all. To me it's very apparent that he simply doesn't have the talent to accomplish what he's trying to do. Never mind that the song itself is pretty lame IMO. >> I get your point about kids making music in their garage, but there's > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Hung is not creative. He is simply trying to parrot, and doing a > terrible job at it, other people's music. Initially, he was serious in trying out for American Idol. That was my point. > The Killers are a young bunch of kids trying to give it a go... they > may get better as they progress and learn, or they may die on the vine. > Patrick I'll go out on a limb and predict that they'll fade away sometime this year. Individual members may resurface elsewhere, but I really don't think The Killers don't have what it takes to compete in today's music biz. OTOH, look at Ashlee Simpson... =:0 Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC I just bought The Killers' CD a week ago and took it back. If they're killing anyone it's with boredom. Just more mid-tempo soft rock. Don't kids-these-days know how to rock anymore? 180 Out TS 28 one80out@hotmail.com wrote in news:1106067878.061518.84190 @c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: > I just bought The Killers' CD a week ago and took it back. If they're > killing anyone it's with boredom. Just more mid-tempo soft rock. > Don't kids-these-days know how to rock anymore? > > 180 Out > TS 28 Check out Duality by Slipknot. Hey now. Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC > one80out@hotmail.com wrote in news:1106067878.061518.84190 > @c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: > Check out Duality by Slipknot. Hey now. No thanks. They're a glamour band. If you need a gimmick to sell records, there must be a reason. Patrick '93 Cobra NoOption5L@aol.com wrote in news:1106108159.550670.241350 @c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: >> one80out@hotmail.com wrote in news:1106067878.061518.84190 >> @c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Patrick > '93 Cobra Patrick, like you with cars, I'm not brand/band loyal. If it rocks, I like it regardless of who does it. Duality rocks. Seacrest out. Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC > Check out Duality by Slipknot. Hey now. I liked the Stonesour CD better than the new Slipnot, but I would take them over "the Killers". I can't stand whinner rock. MadDAWG > I just bought The Killers' CD a week ago Really! 180, you never cease to amaze me. What CDs have you held onto recently? > and took it back. If they're killing anyone it's with boredom. > Just more mid-tempo soft rock. Urghhh... come on... track 5 alone was worth the cost of the CD. > Don't kids-these-days know how to rock anymore? I know this 42-year old kid does. I just can't take a guy beating the sh.t out of a guitar, and with a tough-guy voice screaming in the mic. Not a Killer fan... then how about the Kings Of Leon, The Black Keys, Lucero, Modest Mouse, Old Crow Medicine Show, The Strokes or The White Stripes? Patrick '93 Cobra > Not a Killer fan... then how about the Kings Of Leon, The Black Keys, > Lucero, Modest Mouse, Old Crow Medicine Show, The Strokes or The White > Stripes? Well your CD colection is safe from me. lol MadDAWG "MadDAWG" <onefastford@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in news:41ee740d$1 @news.mhogaming.com: >> Not a Killer fan... then how about the Kings Of Leon, The Black Keys, >> Lucero, Modest Mouse, Old Crow Medicine Show, The Strokes or The White [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > MadDAWG White Stripes suck. Seacrest out. Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC |
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