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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / April 2005Synthetic or Normal Oil
Hey all, Well spring is right around the corner even though it's -27 degrees celcius..........;-)................ I have a 1985 Mustang GT with 219,000km on it................5spd...........pretty much stock except for an Edelbrock intake. When I pull it out of the garage in the spring.....it's gonna need an oil change..........I was wondering if I should switch to synthetic or is it a waste of money??? My engine is tight and doesn't burn any oil but I like to take care of my baby best I can. Some say switch......others say stay with the normal stuff.............opinions??? Steph > Hey all, > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Steph Be advised that there's only one Synth that I would advise using, Mobil 1. And that it will start to clean up the deposits from the inside of your engine. That means you should change the filter at least once between changes for the first two change cycles. But unless you usually drive the car, once started, for more than 20 minutes at a time, you might as well use good regular oil meaning NOT anything with a reference to Pennsylvania. Then change oil/filter every 3 months. Never mind the mileage No Fram, No Penn  Signature- Yes, I'm a crusty old geezer curmudgeon.. deal with it! - > Be advised that there's only one Synth that I would advise using, Mobil 1. > > And that it will start to clean up the deposits from the inside of your > engine. LOL not really. Signature3) If it were My Mustang, I would have yanked the stupid xxxxx out of her beater and beat in her doors with her face. - SVTKate >> Be advised that there's only one Synth that I would advise using, Mobil 1. >> >> And that it will start to clean up the deposits from the inside of your >> engine. > > LOL not really. ???? Not really WHAT? The first sentence; I specified was my opinion Signature- Yes, I'm a crusty old geezer curmudgeon.. deal with it! - >>> Be advised that there's only one Synth that I would advise using, >>> Mobil 1. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > The first sentence; I specified was my opinion Just ask WF how often he changes his Amsoil... LOL! Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC Aww man, don't go start that pissing again :-p Dave >>>> Be advised that there's only one Synth that I would advise using, >>>> Mobil 1. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies > Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC Hell, it's a lot more interesting than half the threads in there these days. Anyway, WF said he wouldn't respond anymore. Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC "Deputy Dog" <dave@sibbett(removethis).com> wrote in news:8ciId.11251 $1l2.5862@trndny05: > Aww man, don't go start that pissing again :-p > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies >> Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC And I don't blame him. -Mike -- A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT Cold air intake FRPP 3.73 gears Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers (self-installed woohoo) Hi-speed fan switch 255/60R-15 rear tires Subframe connectors Aluminum adjustable clutch quadrant > Hell, it's a lot more interesting than half the threads in there these > days. Anyway, WF said he wouldn't respond anymore. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > >> Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies > >> Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC >>> LOL not really. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Just ask WF how often he changes his Amsoil... LOL! Ah... dammit, I forgot! Signature- Yes, I'm a crusty old geezer curmudgeon.. deal with it! - >>>>LOL not really. >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Ah... dammit, I forgot! Yes, and? The fact remains that any of the better synthetics will clean what Mobil 1 and conventional oils leave behind. I know this from personal experience. Signature3) If it were My Mustang, I would have yanked the stupid xxxxx out of her beater and beat in her doors with her face. - SVTKate "WindsorFox[SS]" <windsorfoxNO@SPAMcox.net> wrote in news:KEEId.28953 $sf5.24090@lakeread05: >>>>>LOL not really. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > clean what Mobil 1 and conventional oils leave behind. I know this > from personal experience. WF, this is more of your pure crap. If you disagree, prove your claim. Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC I'm not trying to be contrary here, but I have used Mobile 1 for years and years. I have seen inside of a couple of my engines and they were clean as a whistle. Did I miss something? Kate | "WindsorFox[SS]" <windsorfoxNO@SPAMcox.net> wrote in news:KEEId.28953 | $sf5.24090@lakeread05: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] | Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies | Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC Not to be contrary here but I have used conventional oil in my motors for years and years and the insides of my motors are clean as a whistle..... at least I think they are because I never have any motors fail due to oil related wear. Feed me all the anecdotes you want.... nothing beats regular oil changes... period. Would it surprise anyone to know that even into the 70s, many engine builders insisted on bean oil? Yes, oil from the lowly castor bean (hmmm... I wonder where Castrol got it's name?) was the oil in many racing venues for many, many years. This added a distinctive odour to the exhaust of these cars..... surpassed only be the smell of porridge cooking on Grandmas wood stove... I am continually surprised that someone in their 20s can have done much of anything for years and years other than see if hair will really grow on their palms....... If you really want to know what makes stuff last for a long time.... ask someone that has made stuff last for a really long time.... > I'm not trying to be contrary here, but I have used Mobile 1 for years and > years. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > | Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies > | Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC > I am continually surprised that someone in their 20s can have done much of > anything for years and years other than see if hair will really grow on > their palms....... If you really want to know what makes stuff last for a > long time.... ask someone that has made stuff last for a really long > time.... So, what you're saying is why do we need computers on cable connections when the telegraph works really really well. All that new fangled technology is unnecessary and the claims people make about it can't possibly be true. I'm not here to proove anything to anyone and really don't care who does or doesn't believe my personal experience. I encourage anyone to do their own investigative work as I did and I don't mean just a bunch of reading on the Internet. Signature3) If it were My Mustang, I would have yanked the stupid xxxxx out of her beater and beat in her doors with her face. - SVTKate > I'm not trying to be contrary here, but I have used Mobile 1 for years and > years. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Kate I didn't say it wouldn't keep it from getting messy. What I said was that if you have a messy engine after years of running crap, like Syntec; that it will not clean out the existing mess nearly as well as some other premium synthetics. I used it for ayear or so after a number of years of Syntec and did not see the radical cleaning until I used Royal Purple. Signature3) If it were My Mustang, I would have yanked the stupid xxxxx out of her beater and beat in her doors with her face. - SVTKate >>>Be advised that there's only one Synth that I would advise using, Mobil 1. >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > The first sentence; I specified was my opinion Mobil 1 does little if anymore cleaning than a conventional detergent oil. Signature3) If it were My Mustang, I would have yanked the stupid xxxxx out of her beater and beat in her doors with her face. - SVTKate >>>>Be advised that there's only one Synth that I would advise using, >>>>Mobil 1. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Mobil 1 does little if anymore cleaning than a conventional > detergent oil. If you say so... I've run it for more than 350,000 starting in not-so-new engines... whatever! Signature- Yes, I'm a crusty old geezer curmudgeon.. deal with it! - >> Mobil 1 does little if anymore cleaning than a conventional >>detergent oil. > > If you say so... > I've run it for more than 350,000 starting in not-so-new engines... > whatever! Try 5 qts of Amsoil or Royal Purple for a few thosand miles and see if you get any crap coming out. If it's an engine that has always had Mobil 1 then you won't get anything since it cleans well enough and leaves far less residue, but if you have an engine that has used a lesser oil, Castrol Syntec for instance; Amsoil and RP will actually remove residue to the point you may have to replace a clogged filter in a couple of weeks. Mobil 1 will not clean like that. Been there. Signature3) If it were My Mustang, I would have yanked the stupid xxxxx out of her beater and beat in her doors with her face. - SVTKate And if you happen to switch to an extremely high detergent oil in an old motor, expect the worst.... There are crucial areas where carbon deposits can become almost friendly. Removing SOME of these carbon deposits can leave us with mosquito control devices instead of motors. In the long run, nothing beats regular servicing using good quality motor oil and filters. At the very least, performing a PROPER oil change on a regular basis will offer us the opportunity to notice any other problems in their incipient stages. A good lube shop (or a properly performed driveway oil change) will indicated those things that need addressing very soon and others that are impending. This allows us to prepare for the financial hit or avert catstrophic failure. The choice is yours.... I have what has worked for me for many years (too many years) in both street cars and not so street cars. Copious amounts of fresh, correct oil has been the hands down winner - for nearly 40 years..... thats some good info - thx! when you say "correct" oil, lemme ask this: my owner's manual specifies 5W-20. but i use syn 5W-30. any big deal? my 96 gt was a mod motor and specified 10W-40 in warmer climes. chris 04 comp orange cobra vert > And if you happen to switch to an extremely high detergent oil in an old > motor, expect the worst.... There are crucial areas where carbon deposits [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > many years) in both street cars and not so street cars. Copious amounts of > fresh, correct oil has been the hands down winner - for nearly 40 years..... >Hey all, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >take care of my baby best I can. Some say switch......others say stay with >the normal stuff.............opinions??? ahhhh, another good ole oil thread. expect some postings, saying different things. Here's mine; I would not do it. At that high mileage you might get leaks, it might work loose a bunch of gunk in your engine that could cause serious problems (clogged oil pickup for one) I think there's other ways to make sure the engine lasts a lot longer. Key is to change oil on a regular basis. 3K-5K miles interval. Plus use a good filter. Motorcraft filters are excellent. One other thing is to make sure the engine is fulyl warmed up before doing some spirited driving. 10 miles at least. (the engine temp gauge only shows he water temps. It takes longer before the oil is up to temp) Also, make sure the air intake is tight everywhere. And use a decent filter. K&N's let a lot of dirt in. Remove NO-SPAM from email address when replying I agree with Rein. Putting synthetic oil in a high mileage engine is not advisable. It cleans things up so well that it could cause your engine's seals to leak. I also wouldn't put it in a freash engine, at least not until it's broken in because of it's excellent lubricating qualities interfere with normal break in. Unless, of course, the engine was designed for synthetic from the get go. Stick with a good quality standard motor oil and change on a regular basis. SignatureMark C. -- I don't CLAIM to know everything. I just do. >>Hey all, >> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Remove NO-SPAM from email address when replying You made it to 219km without synthetic, why change now ? Just keep on taking care of it, and change the oil regularly (3,000-5,000) Motorcraft filters, and Valvoline oil and you'll be fine! > Hey all, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Steph Thanks All!!! I appreciate the advice........... > You made it to 219km without synthetic, why change now ? > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > > > Steph |
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