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NoOption5L@aol.com - 03 Mar 2005 03:15 GMT The little GT40 head comparision thread got me thinking. As much as CJ hates my guts and I can't stand his stuck in the past attitude, automotively, I think we're quite similar. So I started thinking about what we have in common. I don't have a lot of time tonight to post, so I'm only throwing out a few ideas. But first, here's what we won't discuss in this thread: 12-second muscle cars and how classics compare to late models. With that said, let's find similiarities.
Over the years here are some things I think we both like or prefer:
Station wagons Sleepers Large displacement Normally aspirated Strippers Tweaked, but factory appearing Straight-line cars
CJ, so far so good? (Agree damn it... just say yes and nod your head. Let's get out of the blocks and lay down the first 60-feet without wheel-hopping or spining the tires.)
Can you think of anything else we disagree about? And what else do you think we agree on?
Patrick '93 Cobra
CobraJet - 03 Mar 2005 05:31 GMT > The little GT40 head comparision thread got me thinking. As much as CJ > hates my guts and I can't stand his stuck in the past attitude, [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Can you think of anything else we disagree about? And what else do you > think we agree on? Did you see the news story John URL'd comparing mechanics to technicians? This is the essential difference between you and me. I'm a gearhead, you belong to the plug-and-play group. The attitude *you* call "stuck in the past", is referred to as "nostalgia" by the vast majority of car-minded 40+ year-olds. The fact that you name C&D as your fave shows me you would never consider an all-out buildup of anything yourself.
So it really goes back to the apples and oranges thing. You are trying to find a common ground to ease things a bit; I say it really doesn't matter. Why? Because I *own* several of every vehicle you have in that list above, and you own a '93 Cobra. I get greasy; you pay lip service. Apples and oranges.
Next week, if it doesn't rain anymore, I'll post pics of my Ranger's engine to show you what I enjoy farting around with.
> Patrick > '93 Cobra
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John - 03 Mar 2005 12:03 GMT >> The little GT40 head comparision thread got me thinking. As much as CJ >> hates my guts and I can't stand his stuck in the past attitude, [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > Next week, if it doesn't rain anymore, I'll post pics of my Ranger's > engine to show you what I enjoy farting around with. If I may explain the diff. using a cliche:
CJ - Been there, done it several times, got the t-shirts, and has modified the t-shirts to fit better.
Patrick - Got a picture of one of CJ's t-shirts.
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NoOption5L@aol.com - 04 Mar 2005 03:57 GMT > If I may explain the diff. using a cliche:
> CJ - Been there, done it several times, got the t-shirts, and has > modified the t-shirts to fit better. That's yet to be determined.
> Patrick - Got a picture of one of CJ's t-shirts. And my t-shirts say, has completed 5Ks, 10Ks and half marathons. Wanna race?
Patrick '93 Cobra
John - 05 Mar 2005 13:03 GMT >> If I may explain the diff. using a cliche: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > And my t-shirts say, has completed 5Ks, 10Ks and half marathons. Wanna > race? Sure, using my rules. The first one to puke wins!
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NoOption5L@aol.com - 05 Mar 2005 16:26 GMT > >> Patrick - Got a picture of one of CJ's t-shirts.
> > And my t-shirts say, has completed 5Ks, 10Ks and half marathons. > > Wanna race?
> Sure, using my rules. The first one to puke wins! lol
I hope I'm not doing that after tomorrow's race. I'm doing 13.1. Last year I made it in 1:48. This year I'm shooting for 1:30s. Not sure if my old body will get me there, but we'll find out.
(Any runners in this NG?)
For those not in to running, or can't run, walking is a good substitute. The main thing is just being active.
Patrick '93 Cobra
dwight - 05 Mar 2005 19:43 GMT > (Any runners in this NG?) > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Patrick > '93 Cobra I still park way out in the hinterlands. Does that count?
dwight
SVTKate - 06 Mar 2005 13:30 GMT Does clearing brush count?
| > (Any runners in this NG?) | > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] | | dwight Merc - 06 Mar 2005 00:06 GMT Running sucks. I like internal combustion. If it doesn't have a motor, I'm not interested. I ride dirt bikes and they say motocross riders are some of the most fit athletes in the world.
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> > >> Patrick - Got a picture of one of CJ's t-shirts. > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Patrick > '93 Cobra NoOption5L@aol.com - 06 Mar 2005 00:12 GMT > Running sucks. I like internal combustion. If it doesn't have a > motor, I'm not interested. I ride dirt bikes and they say motocross > riders are some of the most fit athletes in the world. Merc,
They have to be some of the most fit athletes to compete. It isn't that competing makes them fit.
Patrick '93 Cobra
effie_debow@yahoo.com - 11 Mar 2005 07:01 GMT ATTENTION COBRAJET AND GT40PATRICK. WHY DONT YOU 2 COCKGOBBLERS GET A ROOM AND CHEW ON THEM UNTIL YOU GET YOUR FILL? QUIT WASTING EVERY ONES TIME WITH THESE f.cking RANTS!
Wound Up - 11 Mar 2005 07:19 GMT > ATTENTION COBRAJET AND GT40PATRICK. WHY DONT YOU 2 COCKGOBBLERS GET A > ROOM AND CHEW ON THEM UNTIL YOU GET YOUR FILL? QUIT WASTING EVERY ONES > TIME WITH THESE f.cking RANTS! Cap-posting troll, you didn't even try, did you? You just shot your diseased load before the melee even were to begin. It's just sad.
These creatures really have decreased in overall quality over the years. It's undoubtedly the product of inbreeding, as sadly exhibited by nameless others.
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Merc - 13 Mar 2005 07:43 GMT No one said you had to read it did they? Dumbfuck!
> ATTENTION COBRAJET AND GT40PATRICK. WHY DONT YOU 2 COCKGOBBLERS GET A > ROOM AND CHEW ON THEM UNTIL YOU GET YOUR FILL? QUIT WASTING EVERY ONES > TIME WITH THESE f.cking RANTS! one80out@hotmail.com - 04 Mar 2005 05:30 GMT > If I may explain the diff. using a cliche: > > CJ - Been there, done it several times, got the t-shirts, and has modified > the t-shirts to fit better. > > Patrick - Got a picture of one of CJ's t-shirts. I don't know where you newer Thundersnakes are getting your info, but you've pretty much got that backwards.
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CobraJet - 04 Mar 2005 16:45 GMT > > If I may explain the diff. using a cliche: > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > 180 Out Are you trying to convince *anyone* that Patrick knows more about this stuff than I do?
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one80out@hotmail.com - 04 Mar 2005 18:26 GMT <one80out@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > If I may explain the diff. using a cliche: > > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Are you trying to convince *anyone* that Patrick knows more about > this stuff than I do? No, what I wrote is that Patrick has a better claim to "been there done that" than you do. Emphasis on the "doing," not the "knowing." I don't know where the newbies are getting their info, but it doesn't match what I've been reading in these groups the past four years.
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CobraJet - 04 Mar 2005 21:06 GMT > <one80out@hotmail.com> wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > 180 Out OK, fair enough. Perhaps you'd like to do the following, as long as you're stuck in a dead-end data-entry cubicle job after failing miserably as a lawyer:
1) Show us all the engines, drivetrains, and automotive electronics Patrick has worked on since he was born. Plug and oil changes don't count.
2) Show us all the engines, drivetrains, and automotive electronics that I have worked on since born. Also, explain how what you've seen in the last four years tells you about my life experiences offline. Alternately, you can give us the name of the crystal ball maker that you and Patrick buy from.
3) Google up the thousands of RAMFM posts I've had since '98, extract the flame-based content, and figure out who, besides Bill S., has flung more classic tech into this group than I.
4) Consult your crystal ball and see why I don't care.
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Merc - 04 Mar 2005 22:40 GMT Have you and one80out had a falling out CobraJet?
Merc Thundersnake#16 69 machclone 351W that wants to be a 427W soooooo bad.
> > <one80out@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > CobraJet > Thunder Snake #1 CobraJet - 05 Mar 2005 00:09 GMT > Have you and one80out had a falling out CobraJet? Nah, old William is just frustrated with life and he thinks he's on a mission.
> Merc > Thundersnake#16 [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > CobraJet > > Thunder Snake #1
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one80out@hotmail.com - 04 Mar 2005 22:43 GMT Cobra Jet wrote:
> OK, fair enough. Perhaps you'd like to do the following, > as long as you're stuck in a dead-end data-entry cubicle > job after failing miserably as a lawyer: I don't know where that came from, but it's a lie. What would you know about jobs, anyway? When is the last time you held one? My guess is you're either living on the dole, most likely on a faked-up SSI disability, or you told a stack of lies to some plaintiff's lawyer and scored a six figure payday somewhere along the way.
As for the rest, I've seen that "crystal ball" line of yours often enough for it to peg MY bullshit meter. You spend half your free time -- which is to say half your time, period! -- typing up your automotive exploits on the Usenet, but whenever you're called on anything you hide behind this dodge, that you have this hush-hush secret life where you do all the reeeally cool stuff. And all this "I was there in the day" crap. What a joke. Four years reading your posts and I've never read a single post about you actually working on an on-topic car, or even driving one. Let alone racing one. Plenty about lead-butting it around in an ex-cop Crown Vic, but never a word from the real world about anything on-topic. Just a lot of second hand info from magazines and from web searches.
So, after four years of this same-old, here's what I know:
Starting with the often-mentioned CJ car collection, here's the inventory, from a Sept 2004 thread:
'63 Galaxie Country Sedan Wagon - 390 '64 Monterey Marauder - 390 '64 Fairlane 500 Ranch Wagon '65 Olds Starfire - 425 '65 Galaxie 500 '65 Comet 404 '66 Mercury Colony Park Wagon - 410 '67 Mercury Commuter Wagon '67 Cougar - 289 '67 Cyclone GT Convertible - 390GT '68 Olds 4-4-2 - 400 '68 Torino GT - 390GT '68 Mustang GT/California Special - 289 '69 Plymouth Satellite - 383HP - 4 spd - 4 dr '69 Mustang Coupe - 302 '69 Cougar XR7 428 Cobra Jet '69 Cyclone CJ 428 Cobra Jet '69 Fairlane 428 Cobra Jet Automatic '69 Fairlane 428 Cobra Jet Stick '70 Cyclone Spoiler 429 Cobra Jet '70 Torino GT - 351C '70 Torino Brougham 351C '70 Plymouth Road Runner - 440HP '72 F-250 Camper Special '73 Mustang - engineless '73 F-100 Ranger XLT - built 460 '76 E-250 Econoline - 351W '86 Cougar - 232 '97 Crown Vic Police Interceptor '?? Toyota Celica - parting out
There might be an '82 Accord in there too.
Only the '64 Fairlane wagon, the '70 Torino Brougham, the '73 F-100, and the Crown Victoria were running as of Sept '04. The F-100 and the Torino were recent purchases at that time, but the engine has since been pulled from the pickup to go into the Torino, so I guess the F-100 is not running anymore, either.
The others are in storage. None of them is ever driven or worked on. 30 cars. Way more projects than you can ever hope to handle. You could pass them along to someone who would bring them back to life. But then what would happen to the myth of CJ? So all these cool old cars just sit and rot.
As far as you being there "in the day," you turned 16 in about 1972, meaning for example that you were about 5 years old when the 427 FE came out, and about 14 when the last 428 Cobra Jet rolled off the line.
At some point in the mid-70's you bought the above-mentioned '68 289 GT/CS, and that was the beginning -- and possibly the end -- of your actual real-world experience. You might even have street raced it a couple times. How many actual races? Who knows? 20 per year, for two or three years? All of them between 25 and 30 years ago. Any trips down a real drag strip? You've mentioned ET's, so I guess you must have run a few laps. I'm guessing not very many. I know during this period you installed one engine in the GT/CS, so maybe you built it too. That makes one engine you've built.
At some point in the late '70's to mid-'80's, you moved from L.A. to Phoenix, leaving the by-then broken down GT/CS behind in Cali. You owned a car stereo shop. And THAT'S where your question about "all the automotive electronics" comes from -- car stereos and car alarms. Yeah, I'm guessing you've got everybody in the NG beat on that kind of work, by a factor of ten. Should we be impressed?
During the stereo shop era the Fox-body '86 3.8 Cougar was your driver. I'm guessing it was also during this period that you began collecting all the old iron. Some of the oldies must have filled the gap as drivers, between the defunct GT/CS and the '86 Cougar. Maybe you raced some of them, but I have never read a post saying so. Most of them, and eventually all of them, just sat baking in the sun.
In the late '90's the '86 Cougar gave way to an '82 Accord. The Honda was your driver from the beginning of your Usenet career until a couple years ago, when you switched to the ex-cop '97 Crown Victoria.
So as far as I can tell the engine swap from the F-100 into the Torino is the first time since the late '70's or early '80's that you're actually working on a car. And during that time your REAL bad rides have been a six-cyl Cougar, a four-cyl Honda, and a 281 ci two ton taxicab. BBA all the way, baby.
As for NoOp Patrick, in a February 1999 post he says he has owned these cars:
'68 383 Super Bee '68 318 Dodge pickup '67 283 Impala '68 289 Comet '76 360 Dodge pickup '73 VW Vanagon '87 5.0 Mustang LX - first new car '95 Accord EX '93 Cobra
The '93 Cobra was a recent acquisition as of Feb '99.
Patrick also wrote this: "I grew up near Detroit and my two older brothers were car crazy. They owned a '69 and '72 Chevelle, '74 Javelin, '68 Mustang fastback, and a '69 Cougar XR7 convertible."
Put it all together and you'd have to say that Patrick has as much or more hands-on experience with carbureted V8 iron as he has with the EFI stuff.
Patrick took a car to the dragstrip for the first time in 1988, the car being his '87 5.0. As of Sept '99 he could say he'd gone about 4-5 times per year since then. I don't think he's been back much since '99. This is because he's a career non-commissioned officer in the Air Force. Since I've been reading the NG, I know the USAF sent him from Albuquerque to Turkey for a couple years, then to Florida. Between 1988 and today he's also raised two kids to college age. He sold the '87 5.0 in 1999. He still has the Cobra, and also has a Fox-body LTD.
If you squint real hard, you might recognize these activities as "real life." Also sometimes referred to as "pulling your own weight"; living for something other than your own self-gratification.
I mean, here you are, nearly 50 years of age, and your only responsibility in life is to keep a bag of cat food in the house.
So you don't care what anyone's "crystal ball" says, you've got all these secret projects going on that you never write about. It's so much more interesting to type that 100th reference to Arrogant Bastard Ale or tell us about the glories of driving an ex cop car on the freeway, than actually sharing a real life on-topic activity. That's what we're supposed to believe, anyway.
Sorry, I've been seeing the same sh.t for four years. Now for the first time in all those years you've actually got a project going, and boy the attitude we're all seeing now. For the first time in 20 years you're actually getting that black crud under your fingernails, familiar to all of us who actually work on our cars, and the rest of us better stand back. Super Cobra Jet, the guy who's "been there, done it several times, got the t-shirts, and has modified the t-shirts to fit better." All the time you know it's not true, and you let guys like John here believe it anyway.
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CobraJet - 05 Mar 2005 00:27 GMT > Cobra Jet wrote: > > > OK, fair enough. Perhaps you'd like to do the following, > > as long as you're stuck in a dead-end data-entry cubicle > > job after failing miserably as a lawyer: Hot damn! I snap my fingers and cubicle boy does the work! At least you got the car list right. The rest you get a D on. Not for effort, but for thinking that *anyone* relates his entire life to Usenet. I've never seen a single person write a detailed biography here. Have you?
In a court of law, your smegmatic expulsion would amount to hearsay and would fall woefully astray of conveying factual information. It's no wonder you failed as a lawyer.
I understand you, though. You're at a crossroads in your life, and it pains you to think that other people may have had a more interesting past than you. But it's OK, William, you are still needed by society.
After all, *somebody* has to enter that data.
> I don't know where that came from, but it's a lie. What would you know > about jobs, anyway? When is the last time you held one? My guess is [quoted text clipped - 160 lines] > > 180 Out
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Joe - 05 Mar 2005 01:45 GMT >> Cobra Jet wrote: <non-smegma content snipped>
> In a court of law, your smegmatic expulsion would amount to > hearsay <more non-smegma content snipped>
Wow, another reference to 'smegma'. How gutteral.
Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC
CobraJet - 05 Mar 2005 02:24 GMT > >> Cobra Jet wrote: > <non-smegma content snipped> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Wow, another reference to 'smegma'. How gutteral. Thank you. I have to keep the status quo alive here, even if I have to coin new smegmaniferous words.
> Joe > Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies > Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC
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Wound Up - 05 Mar 2005 02:37 GMT > I understand you, though. You're at a crossroads in your life, and ***Instructions for reading this post***
1. Everything within () are thoughts, and there are several layers.
2. Read entirely.
Hey, CJ, just WHOA there....
((whinny, WHINN-NEH-NEH-NY [EERRRRT, TIRES GO "SCREECH"!])
(Just what the hell is this? WHAT DIID HEEEE MEAN BY THAT!!!????
A JOKE, OR WTF, OR MY GOD HE'S A DAMNED FREAKIN..... WTF WITH THIS "CROSSROADS" BULLSHIT??? I SWEAR, I... ARRGH
I JUST SAID THAT, DAMMIT, AND NOW -HE- PLAYS ME THE FOOL.... OH.. RRGHTFT... RAGA FRAGGA SNAGGA RAZZLE!!!
HUFF PUFF UNGH BLOOD PRESSURE JACKS UP - GOTTA BE 200/100 -
WHAT A L-L-LIAR-! A DAMNED FOOL IDIOT! FREAKIN IGNORAMUS! JUST WHAT IS HE SAYING!!?? MY INTEGRITY!!
WTF? SPLUTTER! RAGE!!!))
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(Oh, FRENCH, yeah... he HATES the French... so this'll get him good! Throw in some SPANISH, TOO, because THIS Insufferable Mofo lives in Phoenix!! HA HAAA)
"Qu'est-ce que vous me dites, alors, Serpent de Tonnerre #1?? QUE VOULEZ-VOUS DIRE??"
¿Y que es esta mierda que viene de su boca?
Vous puez comme BJ, putain sale !
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(-oh, wait a minute-)
. . .
(-just relax, relax. Ree-lax. It was a joke -a joke-)
. . .
("Breathe, J, breathe... in through nose, out through mouth... in through nose, out through mouth... now begin... repeat, relax...
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your hands are warm... your feet are warm... but *you're* cool... you're chilled out... warm... cool...
'Mel-low... mel-low... mel-low... there... you feel better, man? You feel mellow? Yeahhhh....'
. . .
(sigh)
. . .
("Om Tryam Backam Yashamahey Sugon Teem Push Devar Khanam Uvwar Ukhamava Bondanam
Mirtygor Moksheeya Mamrupath Mirtygor Moksheeya Mamrupath Mirtygor Moksheeya Mamrupath
Om Shanti Shanti Shanti Om Shanti Shanti Shanti Om Shanti Shanti Shanti Om Shanti Shanti Shanti Om Shanti Shanti Shanti Om Shanti Shanti Shanti Om Shanti Shanti Shanti Om Shanti Shanti Shanti Om Shanti Shanti Shanti ......................."
Much better.... better....)
. . .
Heh. Good one, CJ!
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CobraJet - 05 Mar 2005 17:29 GMT > > I understand you, though. You're at a crossroads in your life, and > > ***Instructions for reading this post*** <plonk>
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Wound Up - 05 Mar 2005 18:22 GMT >>> I understand you, though. You're at a crossroads in your life, and >> >>***Instructions for reading this post*** > > <plonk> I was, of course, making fun of myself.
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Wound Up - 06 Mar 2005 05:40 GMT >>> I understand you, though. You're at a crossroads in your life, and >> >>***Instructions for reading this post*** > > <plonk> Just tell me what you mean by this, and quit f.cking around.
What... I deserve to be plonked outright for another ridiculous joke? Are you really that miopic (considering your age, even)? Jesus, man, have a sense of humor.
I was making fun of MYSELF, if it weren't already obvious. To you, of all people, it should have been. Just have enough thesack to say what you mean, for Christ's sake!
Well???
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CobraJet - 06 Mar 2005 05:51 GMT > >>> I understand you, though. You're at a crossroads in your life, and > >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Just tell me what you mean by this, and quit f.cking around. OK. While you went on a word binge I demonstrated the power of a *single* word. I don't have a kill filter enabled, but "plonk" caused you enough panic to email me twice and post this.
> What... I deserve to be plonked outright for another ridiculous joke? > Are you really that miopic (considering your age, even)? > Jesus, man, have a sense of humor. Oh, I have much more than a sense of humor, young man. And it's spelled "myopic".
> I was making fun of MYSELF, if it weren't already obvious. To you, of > all people, it should have been. Just have enough thesack to say what > you mean, for Christ's sake! > > Well??? You have to know when to hold up, and when to fold up.
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CobraJet - 06 Mar 2005 06:43 GMT > > >>> I understand you, though. You're at a crossroads in your life, and > > >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > You have to know when to hold up, and when to fold up. In the meantime, here's some word for a Saturday night:
Warm leatherette Warm leatherette See the breaking glass In the underpass Warm leatherette Warm leatherette Hear the crashing steel Feel the steering wheel Warm leatherette Warm leatherette Melts on your burning flesh You can see your reflection In the luminescent dash Warm leatherette Warm leatherette A tear of petrol Is in your eye The handbrake Penetrates your thigh Quick Let's make love Before you die On warm leatherette On warm leatherette Join The car crash set
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Wound Up - 06 Mar 2005 07:41 GMT >>>>>> I understand you, though. You're at a crossroads in your life, and >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >>*single* word. I don't have a kill filter enabled, but "plonk" caused >>you enough panic to email me twice As previously stated, it was a self-slam. What wasn't clear about that? Was it "om shanti"? Did you have a bad flashback?
And I emailed you once... "panic" doesn't describe my question. I was just confused.
>and post this. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> Oh, I have much more than a sense of humor, young man. And it's >>spelled "myopic". I was speaking rhetorically. And thank you for calling me "young man"!
BTW, I got carded for my bottle of Captain and my two cases of beer today. This little chickie thought I was 20, a whole teenager younger than she. How flattering! She said, "sweet f__ing car", to boot. "You betcha, '80s girl."
Hey, never drink and drive! I don't, ever! Never ever. Make the wife drive, use the agreement. Anyway, ricer-smoking bursts of 100+ in a 55 are much easier to explain, if it were to come up.
Oh, a thousand pardons, monsieur, for my spelling goof with "myopic".
>>I was making fun of MYSELF, if it weren't already obvious. To you, of >>>all people, it should have been. Just have enough thesack to say what [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >> You have to know when to hold up, and when to fold up. "I never walk away... and I never run..." Attitude brings scars.
> In the meantime, here's some word for a Saturday night: HE BRINGIN' WORD, YO!
> Warm leatherette > Warm leatherette [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Join > The car crash set Dammit, Rick, have you gone Goth Homo on me? Stop it, you're embarrassing yourself with these overtures... Morrissey wannabe
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memset@recorddeal.com - 06 Mar 2005 07:49 GMT Ok you're slamming each other & yourselves... dammit Wound Up talk sh.t a/b me too.. I'm feeling left out =(.
-Mike
-- A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT Cold air intake FRPP 3.73 gears Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers (self-installed woohoo) Hi-speed fan switch 255/60R-15 rear tires Subframe connectors Aluminum adjustable clutch quadrant
> >>>>>> I understand you, though. You're at a crossroads in your life, and > >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] > Wound Up > ThunderSnake #65 Wound Up - 06 Mar 2005 08:55 GMT > Ok you're slamming each other & yourselves... dammit Wound Up talk sh.t a/b > me too.. I'm feeling left out =(. First you prod CJ, and now me? Are you the masochist I think you are?
Mikey... careful what you wish for!
> -Mike > [quoted text clipped - 99 lines] >>Wound Up >>ThunderSnake #65
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memset@recorddeal.com - 06 Mar 2005 09:38 GMT Diff. is you can take a joke. CJ is a byotch ;).
-Mike
-- A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT Cold air intake FRPP 3.73 gears Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers (self-installed woohoo) Hi-speed fan switch 255/60R-15 rear tires Subframe connectors Aluminum adjustable clutch quadrant
> > Ok you're slamming each other & yourselves... dammit Wound Up talk sh.t a/b > > me too.. I'm feeling left out =(. [quoted text clipped - 110 lines] > Wound Up > ThunderSnake #65 CobraJet - 06 Mar 2005 17:40 GMT > Diff. is you can take a joke. CJ is a byotch ;). Speaking of which, what happened to that boy you had over for dinner? Didn't get wacked over that date rape thing, did he? Did he invite you over for Steak and BJ day?
http://www.steakandbjday.com
> -Mike > [quoted text clipped - 126 lines] > > Wound Up > > ThunderSnake #65
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memset@recorddeal.com - 06 Mar 2005 20:44 GMT Oh I fugged the hell outta him. It was good.
-Mike
-- A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT Cold air intake FRPP 3.73 gears Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers (self-installed woohoo) Hi-speed fan switch 255/60R-15 rear tires Subframe connectors Aluminum adjustable clutch quadrant
> > Diff. is you can take a joke. CJ is a byotch ;). > [quoted text clipped - 138 lines] > CobraJet > Thunder Snake #1 CobraJet - 06 Mar 2005 22:00 GMT > Oh I fugged the hell outta him. It was good. See, isn't it better to admit you are a fag? I mean, it's not like anyone didn't already know it, with the way you gush over things like Kate does and that whole swishy Valentine's thing and the way you sidestepped somebody's question about your "encounter" with another Mustang-owning male and that faggy buddy of yours on your web page. sh.t, it all adds up big time.
What a tremendous relief you must feel. And it's all because of me. What a humanitarian I am!
> -Mike > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > > Subframe connectors > > > Aluminum adjustable clutch quadrant
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memset@recorddeal.com - 06 Mar 2005 22:45 GMT LOL yep you know it... I'm just as gay as can possibly be. Or in your wettest of dreams at least.
-Mike
-- A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT Cold air intake FRPP 3.73 gears Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers (self-installed woohoo) Hi-speed fan switch 255/60R-15 rear tires Subframe connectors Aluminum adjustable clutch quadrant
> > Oh I fugged the hell outta him. It was good. > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > CobraJet > Thunder Snake #1 CobraJet - 07 Mar 2005 01:10 GMT > LOL yep you know it... I'm just as gay as can possibly be. Or in your > wettest of dreams at least. Lame. Do better.
> -Mike > [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > > CobraJet > > Thunder Snake #1
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CobraJet - 06 Mar 2005 17:37 GMT > > On warm leatherette > > On warm leatherette [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Stop it, you're embarrassing yourself with these overtures... > Morrissey wannabe Those are the lyrics from "Warm Leatherette", released by The Normal in February of 1979, thus predating our tortured friend Morrisey *and* the Goth movement. I thought it appropriate for a Sat nite. "Fasten your seat belts", y'all.
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Wound Up - 06 Mar 2005 18:25 GMT >>>On warm leatherette >>>On warm leatherette [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > the Goth movement. I thought it appropriate for a Sat nite. "Fasten > your seat belts", y'all. It was. Synaptic misfires abound. I missed the entire point to boot!
Deep in the terrible gibberish, I find a clue... "...my bottle of Captain and my two cases of beer today."
There was a strange Jeep in the driveway, and newly familiar faces shambling through the house today, apologizing for "the mess on the patio".
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Wound Up - 06 Mar 2005 08:57 GMT >> OK. While you went on a word binge I demonstrated the power of a >>*single* word. I don't have a kill filter enabled, but "plonk" caused >>you enough panic to email me twice and post this. Once. Panic? Don't flatter yourself.
And just yell "FIRE" in a movie theater to prove this point.
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CobraJet - 06 Mar 2005 17:29 GMT > >> OK. While you went on a word binge I demonstrated the power of a > >>*single* word. I don't have a kill filter enabled, but "plonk" caused > >>you enough panic to email me twice and post this. > > Once. Panic? Don't flatter yourself. You have a brain hiccup. First, you have replied to this portion of the post twice. Second, I have similar but slightly different emails from you sent at 12:19 and 12:20 pm yesterday. You really need to get the right dosage dialed in.
> And just yell "FIRE" in a movie theater to prove this point.
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Wound Up - 06 Mar 2005 18:11 GMT >>>> OK. While you went on a word binge I demonstrated the power of a >>>>*single* word. I don't have a kill filter enabled, but "plonk" caused [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > from you sent at 12:19 and 12:20 pm yesterday. You really need to get > the right dosage dialed in. (Hic)
Hmm. Maybe I have 180's double send button malfunction, or something like it. Gotta look in the DSM...
Hmm. Perhaps I am similarly affilicted as 180, with his double send button malfunction. Maybe it's even been documented in the DSM!
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CobraJet - 06 Mar 2005 18:22 GMT > >>>> OK. While you went on a word binge I demonstrated the power of a > >>>>*single* word. I don't have a kill filter enabled, but "plonk" caused [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Hmm. Maybe I have 180's double send button malfunction, or something > like it. Gotta look in the DSM...
> Hmm. Perhaps I am similarly affilicted as 180, with his double send > button malfunction. Maybe it's even been documented in the DSM! What, you own a Talon?
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Wound Up - 06 Mar 2005 18:28 GMT >>>>>> OK. While you went on a word binge I demonstrated the power of a >>>>>>*single* word. I don't have a kill filter enabled, but "plonk" caused [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > What, you own a Talon? Nope. I'm not an 18-year-old girl.
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CobraJet - 06 Mar 2005 19:36 GMT > >>>>>> OK. While you went on a word binge I demonstrated the power of a > >>>>>>*single* word. I don't have a kill filter enabled, but "plonk" caused [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Nope. I'm not an 18-year-old girl. Oh, I misunderstood "DSM".
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Wound Up - 06 Mar 2005 23:41 GMT >>>>>>>>OK. While you went on a word binge I demonstrated the power of a >>>>>>>>*single* word. I don't have a kill filter enabled, but "plonk" caused [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Oh, I misunderstood "DSM". Heh. No Diamond Stars round here.
Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders
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one80out@hotmail.com - 07 Mar 2005 18:16 GMT Hot damn! I snap my fingers and cubicle boy does the work! At least
> you got the car list right. The rest you get a D on. Not for effort, > but for thinking that *anyone* relates his entire life to Usenet. I've [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > After all, *somebody* has to enter that data. Hot damn, snap my fingers and the same old Cobra Jet blah blah blah spews forth. Try to change the focus to the opponent's personal character, put him on the "defensive," pretend it'd be too much trouble to rebut the charges and that the rebuttals would be knocked down anyway. Par for the course.
The truth is what it is. I say the truth is that, about 35 years ago, you dabbled in street racing for a brief while with a *snicker* 289 Mustang. Probably living at home with Mommy and Daddy and pretending to go to college.
At some point you dropped out of college and moved to Arizona and opened a car stereo shop. Along the way you acquired a bunch of '60's cars, some of which had the ability to move under their own power. Thanks to your stewardship, none of them do now.
Along the way you ran a few laps at the dragstrip. But you have not done so for years, possibly decades.
At some point the stereo shop went bust, and you haven't held regular job since then. This is possible only if you're living on SSI, a personal injury award, or some other method of sucking on somebody else's tit.
Now you're nearly 50, living with 20-30 cats in some marginally habitable hut in the Arizona desert. Oh yeah, and about five months ago you started an actual automotive project, your first one in years, possibly decades.
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CobraJet - 07 Mar 2005 21:20 GMT > Hot damn! I snap my fingers and cubicle boy does the work! At least > > you got the car list right. The rest you get a D on. Not for effort, [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > to rebut the charges and that the rebuttals would be knocked down > anyway. Par for the course. As I mentioned before, nobody else is writing biographies. Why should I? If people think what I say comes solely from books, then they are as stupid as you and Patrick. I don't answer to the impotent bravado you two have escalated to new heights of absurdity.
Of course, I realize it's all a sham. You are as transparent as glass. "Charges"? What a f.cking fantasy world you live in. And you are so rattled you think I'm pulling the truck's engine to put in the Torino. What a dork.
> The truth is what it is. I say the truth is that, about 35 years ago, > you dabbled in street racing for a brief while with a *snicker* 289 [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > ago you started an actual automotive project, your first one in years, > possibly decades. Nice try, butt you failed on virtually everything. No wonder you're in a cubicle now. I did notice *you* didn't tell us what that despicable job is that you were moaning about a couple days ago. Does your boss know you post here on a company computer?
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NoOption5L@aol.com - 05 Mar 2005 04:19 GMT Whoa! You can tell this guy *is* a lawyer. Kinda reminds me of a young Tom Cruise grilling Jack Nickelson in the final act of a "Few Good Men".
> > OK, fair enough. Perhaps you'd like to do the following, > > as long as you're stuck in a dead-end data-entry cubicle > > job after failing miserably as a lawyer:
> I don't know where that came from, but it's a lie. It's his typical smear campaign. I've grown used to it.
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> As for the rest, I've seen that "crystal ball" line of yours often > enough for it to peg MY bullshit meter. You spend half your free > time -- which is to say half your time, period! -- typing up your > automotive exploits on the Usenet, but whenever you're called on > anything you hide behind this dodge, Yes, the "dodge". The short list is thousands of pounds of old car magazines, time slips, and let's add one more -- some recent pictures of all these classics. Got links?
> that you have this hush-hush secret life where you do all the > reeeally cool stuff. And all this "I was there in the day" crap. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > about anything on-topic. Just a lot of second hand info from > magazines and from web searches. I remember CJ showing up sometime around '97, so it isn't just "four years" it's about eight.
> So, after four years of this same-old, here's what I know:
> Starting with the often-mentioned CJ car collection, here's the > inventory, from a Sept 2004 thread:
> '63 Galaxie Country Sedan Wagon - 390 > '64 Monterey Marauder - 390 [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > '97 Crown Vic Police Interceptor > '?? Toyota Celica - parting out
> There might be an '82 Accord in there too. I think he dumped this one, or it's now on blocks too.
CJ, here's what I would do. You're 50. You have more project cars than you have years left driving. The market prices for these cars is high right now. Even if they're in rough shape you could still net a tidy sum. I would pick maybe 3-4 of the good/really special ones from your lot and keep them. All the rest I'd sell, and the proceeds I would take and do a complete resto on those 3 or 4 special ones. I'd rather have 3-4 cherries, than 20+ hulks. Let the young guys bring those others back, you spend some time enjoying/driving a few, if it is only 3 or 4. Do it, now!
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> The others are in storage. None of them is ever driven or worked on. > 30 cars. Way more projects than you can ever hope to handle. You > could pass them along to someone who would bring them back to life. > But then what would happen to the myth of CJ? So all these cool old > cars just sit and rot. Be good to them, CJ... let 'em go. Imagine some young guy bringing one back to life and then bringing it over for you to approve. In my book, THAT would be pretty freaking awesome!
> As for NoOp Patrick, Oh sh.t, the Cruise missile is onto me.
> in a February 1999 post he says he has owned these cars:
> '68 383 Super Bee Either I fat fingered or you did. It was a '69.
> '68 318 Dodge pickup > '67 283 Impala [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > '87 5.0 Mustang LX - first new car > '95 Accord EX ? The Accord is the wife's car.
> '93 Cobra
> The '93 Cobra was a recent acquisition as of Feb '99. It was December '98, which makes it anything but "recent". She's just about to turn 100K, but it still looks/runs like a car less than half her age.
> Patrick also wrote this: "I grew up near Detroit and my two older > brothers were car crazy. ? They owned a '69 and '72 Chevelle, '74 > Javelin, '68 Mustang fastback, and a '69 Cougar XR7 convertible." Later my one brother added a '90 GT 'vert and a '66 Shelby GT-350H.
> Put it all together and you'd have to say that Patrick has as much or > more hands-on experience with carbureted V8 iron as he has with the > EFI stuff. Carbs, never again. Unless it's complex carbs before a workout/run.
> Patrick took a car to the dragstrip for the first time in 1988, the > car being his '87 5.0. As of Sept '99 he could say he'd gone about [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > him from Albuquerque to Turkey for a couple years, then to Florida. > Between 1988 and today he's also raised two kids to college age. The kids. My son is like a brother and he's my very best friend. He is an *amazing* kid -- a two time Congressional Medal award winner, graduated second in his class of nearly 200 with a 4.6 something GPA, and earned a scholorship at a TOP university. His maturity at 19 rivals some adults at 40, I kid you not. My daughter is not as gifted, but what a fighter. Worked her butt off and paid cash for her first car, and has paid nearly every penny of her college so far. She'll earn her associates in June. She's awesome... a beauty inside and out. The guy that gets her is going to be one lucky dude.
Sorry, can't mention the kids or I'll start rambling.
> He sold the '87 5.0 in 1999. He still has the Cobra, and also has a > Fox-body LTD. I raced the LX so many times on the strip and street the carpeting under the gas pedal was probably worn through. I got groups of time slips from that car. It's amazing the original clutch/trans never hiccuped. Patrick '93 Cobra
one80out@hotmail.com - 04 Mar 2005 22:44 GMT Cobra Jet wrote:
> OK, fair enough. Perhaps you'd like to do the following, > as long as you're stuck in a dead-end data-entry cubicle > job after failing miserably as a lawyer: I don't know where that came from, but it's a lie. What would you know about jobs, anyway? When is the last time you held one? My guess is you're either living on the dole, most likely on a faked-up SSI disability, or you told a stack of lies to some plaintiff's lawyer and scored a six figure payday somewhere along the way.
As for the rest, I've seen that "crystal ball" line of yours often enough for it to peg MY bullshit meter. You spend half your free time -- which is to say half your time, period! -- typing up your automotive exploits on the Usenet, but whenever you're called on anything you hide behind this dodge, that you have this hush-hush secret life where you do all the reeeally cool stuff. And all this "I was there in the day" crap. What a joke. Four years reading your posts and I've never read a single post about you actually working on an on-topic car, or even driving one. Let alone racing one. Plenty about lead-butting it around in an ex-cop Crown Vic, but never a word from the real world about anything on-topic. Just a lot of second hand info from magazines and from web searches.
So, after four years of this same-old, here's what I know:
Starting with the often-mentioned CJ car collection, here's the inventory, from a Sept 2004 thread:
'63 Galaxie Country Sedan Wagon - 390 '64 Monterey Marauder - 390 '64 Fairlane 500 Ranch Wagon '65 Olds Starfire - 425 '65 Galaxie 500 '65 Comet 404 '66 Mercury Colony Park Wagon - 410 '67 Mercury Commuter Wagon '67 Cougar - 289 '67 Cyclone GT Convertible - 390GT '68 Olds 4-4-2 - 400 '68 Torino GT - 390GT '68 Mustang GT/California Special - 289 '69 Plymouth Satellite - 383HP - 4 spd - 4 dr '69 Mustang Coupe - 302 '69 Cougar XR7 428 Cobra Jet '69 Cyclone CJ 428 Cobra Jet '69 Fairlane 428 Cobra Jet Automatic '69 Fairlane 428 Cobra Jet Stick '70 Cyclone Spoiler 429 Cobra Jet '70 Torino GT - 351C '70 Torino Brougham 351C '70 Plymouth Road Runner - 440HP '72 F-250 Camper Special '73 Mustang - engineless '73 F-100 Ranger XLT - built 460 '76 E-250 Econoline - 351W '86 Cougar - 232 '97 Crown Vic Police Interceptor '?? Toyota Celica - parting out
There might be an '82 Accord in there too.
Only the '64 Fairlane wagon, the '70 Torino Brougham, the '73 F-100, and the Crown Victoria were running as of Sept '04. The F-100 and the Torino were recent purchases at that time, but the engine has since been pulled from the pickup to go into the Torino, so I guess the F-100 is not running anymore, either.
The others are in storage. None of them is ever driven or worked on. 30 cars. Way more projects than you can ever hope to handle. You could pass them along to someone who would bring them back to life. But then what would happen to the myth of CJ? So all these cool old cars just sit and rot.
As far as you being there "in the day," you turned 16 in about 1972, meaning for example that you were about 5 years old when the 427 FE came out, and about 14 when the last 428 Cobra Jet rolled off the line.
At some point in the mid-70's you bought the above-mentioned '68 289 GT/CS, and that was the beginning -- and possibly the end -- of your actual real-world experience. You might even have street raced it a couple times. How many actual races? Who knows? 20 per year, for two or three years? All of them between 25 and 30 years ago. Any trips down a real drag strip? You've mentioned ET's, so I guess you must have run a few laps. I'm guessing not very many. I know during this period you installed one engine in the GT/CS, so maybe you built it too. That makes one engine you've built.
At some point in the late '70's to mid-'80's, you moved from L.A. to Phoenix, leaving the by-then broken down GT/CS behind in Cali. You owned a car stereo shop. And THAT'S where your question about "all the automotive electronics" comes from -- car stereos and car alarms. Yeah, I'm guessing you've got everybody in the NG beat on that kind of work, by a factor of ten. Should we be impressed?
During the stereo shop era the Fox-body '86 3.8 Cougar was your driver. I'm guessing it was also during this period that you began collecting all the old iron. Some of the oldies must have filled the gap as drivers, between the defunct GT/CS and the '86 Cougar. Maybe you raced some of them, but I have never read a post saying so. Most of them, and eventually all of them, just sat baking in the sun.
In the late '90's the '86 Cougar gave way to an '82 Accord. The Honda was your driver from the beginning of your Usenet career until a couple years ago, when you switched to the ex-cop '97 Crown Victoria.
So as far as I can tell the engine swap from the F-100 into the Torino is the first time since the late '70's or early '80's that you're actually working on a car. And during that time your REAL bad rides have been a six-cyl Cougar, a four-cyl Honda, and a 281 ci two ton taxicab. BBA all the way, baby.
As for NoOp Patrick, in a February 1999 post he says he has owned these cars:
'68 383 Super Bee '68 318 Dodge pickup '67 283 Impala '68 289 Comet '76 360 Dodge pickup '73 VW Vanagon '87 5.0 Mustang LX - first new car '95 Accord EX '93 Cobra
The '93 Cobra was a recent acquisition as of Feb '99.
Patrick also wrote this: "I grew up near Detroit and my two older brothers were car crazy. They owned a '69 and '72 Chevelle, '74 Javelin, '68 Mustang fastback, and a '69 Cougar XR7 convertible."
Put it all together and you'd have to say that Patrick has as much or more hands-on experience with carbureted V8 iron as he has with the EFI stuff.
Patrick took a car to the dragstrip for the first time in 1988, the car being his '87 5.0. As of Sept '99 he could say he'd gone about 4-5 times per year since then. I don't think he's been back much since '99. This is because he's a career non-commissioned officer in the Air Force. Since I've been reading the NG, I know the USAF sent him from Albuquerque to Turkey for a couple years, then to Florida. Between 1988 and today he's also raised two kids to college age. He sold the '87 5.0 in 1999. He still has the Cobra, and also has a Fox-body LTD.
If you squint real hard, you might recognize these activities as "real life." Also sometimes referred to as "pulling your own weight"; living for something other than your own self-gratification.
I mean, here you are, nearly 50 years of age, and your only responsibility in life is to keep a bag of cat food in the house.
So you don't care what anyone's "crystal ball" says, you've got all these secret projects going on that you never write about. It's so much more interesting to type that 100th reference to Arrogant Bastard Ale or tell us about the glories of driving an ex cop car on the freeway, than actually sharing a real life on-topic activity. That's what we're supposed to believe, anyway.
Sorry, I've been seeing the same sh.t for four years. Now for the first time in all those years you've actually got a project going, and boy the attitude we're all seeing now. For the first time in 20 years you're actually getting that black crud under your fingernails, familiar to all of us who actually work on our cars, and the rest of us better stand back. Super Cobra Jet, the guy who's "been there, done it several times, got the t-shirts, and has modified the t-shirts to fit better." All the time you know it's not true, and you let guys like John here believe it anyway.
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NoOption5L@aol.com - 05 Mar 2005 03:11 GMT > > > If I may explain the diff. using a cliche:
> > > CJ - Been there, done it several times, got the t-shirts, and has > > > modified the t-shirts to fit better.
> > > Patrick - Got a picture of one of CJ's t-shirts.
> > I don't know where you newer Thundersnakes are getting your info, > > but you've pretty much got that backwards.
> Are you trying to convince *anyone* that Patrick knows more about > this stuff than I do? Do I know more than you about this stuff...? What I think is that you have the reference manual from hell, that's what I think. Even with out the manual, I wouldn't doubt you know more about the classic stuff because you live there. Automotively, for you, the world stopped somewhere around '73-'74. So you only need to know about 10 years worth. Study that small amount of information long enough and you _should_ know it upside down and backwards. Myself, on the other hand, was just like you until the '82 GT Mustang made its debut. Then I started gobbling up info on every subsequent model year of car since, plus some foreign, so of course my knowledge on the details of the old stuff is going to be foggy in comparision. Try stuffing about 33 years of automotive info in your brain. And even the 70's stuff I like to read about now, so the 33 years of info is up to nearly 40, and growing.
But that's just talking about "knowing". Expirience is something else. Am I claiming, or have I ever claimed to be, a mechanic? No. Am I afraid to get my hands dirty? No. Here's my list of things I've done:
replaced starter rebuilt/installed carbs replaced water pumps replaced rocker arms replaced cam/bearings installed U/D pullies installed timing chain installed headers, x & h pipes installed rear gears replaced alternator installed clutch cables/quadrants performed brake jobs - including drum replaced rotors & calipers installed shift kit replaced valve cover gaskets replaced/swapped intake manifolds installed shocks replaced radiators/hoses repacked/replaced wheel bearings replaced a computer installed shifters replaced fenders/doors/hoods stripped paint performed bodywork/paint prep replaced/installed oak bed in pickup replaced/installed throttle body/EGR/TPS sensor/mass-air meter & sensor replaced clutch on an A/C compressor all the tune-up junk (points, plugs, wires ect.) and various sensors
Things I haven't done, but would love to. Never pulled heads, got in the bottom end, rebuilt a trans, and have never done a clutch job (Never needed to. My LX's had more than a 100K on its original when I sold the car, and my Cobra's has a 100K on it now and it still has plenty of bite). I'd like to do these four tasks, but so far I haven't needed to. But to be honest, I wouldn't do them right now because my Cobra is my daily driver, that is unless I had a knowledgeable friend looking over my shoulder.
So that's it for the "plug-n-play guy".
Your turn to step up to the plate, self-proclaimed, "Mr. Gearhead".
Patrick '93 Cobra
John - 05 Mar 2005 13:31 GMT >> If I may explain the diff. using a cliche: >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I don't know where you newer Thundersnakes are getting your info, but > you've pretty much got that backwards. Backwards? That's not my perception. Patrick definitely knows more about this stuff than me, but CJ is on a higher level than that. Could CJ be creating all that information and responses by sitting in front of his Mac with a stack of magazines and books by his side and not having "walked the walk", in essence, creating his CJ persona? I don't think so. Again, my perception.
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CobraJet - 05 Mar 2005 17:36 GMT > >> If I may explain the diff. using a cliche: > >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > walk", in essence, creating his CJ persona? I don't think so. Again, my > perception. It's a riot, isn't it? I've worked and played in an automotive environment all my life, and now I get a dropout lawyer and a nurse trying to cast the Fickle Finger upon me. And that list of Patrick's "achievements" had me laughing for hours last night. Gosh, what a HARDCORE wrencher! BWAHAHAHA!
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NoOption5L@aol.com - 05 Mar 2005 23:04 GMT Dodge'emJet wrote:
> > > I don't know where you newer Thundersnakes are getting your info, > > > but you've pretty much got that backwards.
> > Backwards? That's not my perception. Patrick definitely knows > > more about this stuff than me, but CJ is on a higher level than > > that. Could CJ be creating all that information and responses by > > sitting in front of his Mac with a stack of magazines and books by > > his side and not having "walked the walk", in essence, creating his > > CJ persona? I don't think so. Again, my perception.
> It's a riot, isn't it? I've worked and played in an automotive > environment all my life, Want to know what's really funny? So far, you've been nothing but talk, which is quickly going to be labeled bullshit if you don't pony up soon.
You have a digital camera... here's another to-do list:
1) Let's see pics of all the claimed old car magazines you own. Thousand some pounds, right? We've been hearing you brag about them now for 6-7 years, let's see 'em.
2) Give us some pics of this 20 whatever number of classics of yours. SURELY, a "master mechanic/gearhead" like yourself has to have AT LEAST A FEW of these babies cherried out. (Right, folks?) Show us... and stick your ugly mug in a few of these pics too.
3) You don't even need a camera for this last one. Post your automotive expirience.
> and now I get a dropout lawyer and a nurse trying to cast the Fickle > Finger upon me. Yeah, that tends to happen when someone claims and claims and claims and talks and talks and talks, but never produces. And so far in your 8 years of Usenet, you've produced a big goose egg... Z E R O. Cars, magazines, timeslips everything so far has been nothing but talk. I want to see proof of your impressive automotive skills/expirience. I want to see links to stuff that's on the same level as Bill S' stuff. Again, a seasoned mechanic like you HAS to own some impressive looking rides, I'd think.
> And that list of Patrick's "achievements" had me laughing for hours > last night. Gosh, what a HARDCORE wrencher! BWAHAHAHA! Dude, the joke is on you, or should I say *is* you. I never claimed to be a "hardcore wrencher", YOU did! (I swear you're losing brain function.) I only listed what I've had expirience with. It was a no BULLSHIT list. I could have lied and trumped up an impressive list, but I didn't. I'm honest. That's all the expirience I have, I make no excuses, nor do I feel bad about it.
Now it's your turn. Come on big guy... step up the plate. Are going to swing and hit it out of the park, or are you going to give us more wind?
<the crowd is hushed with anticipation>
Patrick '93 Cobra
CobraJet - 06 Mar 2005 01:20 GMT > Dodge'emJet wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > > <the crowd is hushed with anticipation> The crowd doesn't care, and you've been around long enough to know you can't rattle me with your bullshit. Anyone with two eyes and an equal number of brain cells can understand that I know my sh.t. You, however, are proving yet again that you (and your clone William) are envious and frustrated.
But as as psycho as you are, you do feed my sadistic side. Did you run your marathon today? Think of me when your heart was pounding?
> Patrick > '93 Cobra
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memset@recorddeal.com - 06 Mar 2005 01:32 GMT See below...
-- A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT Cold air intake FRPP 3.73 gears Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers (self-installed woohoo) Hi-speed fan switch 255/60R-15 rear tires Subframe connectors Aluminum adjustable clutch quadrant
> > Dodge'emJet wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > however, are proving yet again that you (and your clone William) are > envious and frustrated. Actually, you're right. Crowd doesn't give a *damn*. But you do... otherwise you wouldn't keep posting. I don't see why you don't just say what you've done so this sh.t can end. I mean hell.. we all know you're full of sh.t..... so what's it really matter?
-Mike
> But as as psycho as you are, you do feed my sadistic side. Did you > run your marathon today? Think of me when your heart was pounding? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > CobraJet > Thunder Snake #1 CobraJet - 06 Mar 2005 03:26 GMT > See below... > [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] > done so this sh.t can end. I mean hell.. we all know you're full of > sh.t..... so what's it really matter? My little clubie, you are once again missing the point. No matter what I write, Patrick will find a way to befoul or dismiss it. It will never end.
> -Mike > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > CobraJet > > Thunder Snake #1
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memset@recorddeal.com - 06 Mar 2005 04:51 GMT Well by you dodging it, Mr. Master Mechanic, you are making yourself look like a complete noob. Are you a complete noob? It's ok to come outta the noobie closet...
-Mike
-- A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT Cold air intake FRPP 3.73 gears Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers (self-installed woohoo) Hi-speed fan switch 255/60R-15 rear tires Subframe connectors Aluminum adjustable clutch quadrant
> > See below... > > [quoted text clipped - 100 lines] > CobraJet > Thunder Snake #1 CobraJet - 06 Mar 2005 05:31 GMT > Well by you dodging it, Mr. Master Mechanic, you are making yourself look > like a complete noob. Are you a complete noob? It's ok to come outta the > noobie closet... Gonna join the kookie klan, Mikey? Like kissing Nurse Pattie's a.s?
> -Mike > [quoted text clipped - 133 lines] > > CobraJet > > Thunder Snake #1
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memset@recorddeal.com - 06 Mar 2005 06:08 GMT *smooch* *smooch* Tastes like chicken.
Anyhoo... exactly what automotive experience DO you have? Hell, I can run circles around you in the web-development field... that means I'm better than you & should talk down to you? Huh... I didn't think so.. but if you wanna play those games, then maybe I *am* better :P
-Mike
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> > Well by you dodging it, Mr. Master Mechanic, you are making yourself look > > like a complete noob. Are you a complete noob? It's ok to come outta the [quoted text clipped - 143 lines] > CobraJet > Thunder Snake #1 CobraJet - 06 Mar 2005 06:43 GMT > *smooch* *smooch* Tastes like chicken. That's true no matter how you look at it.
> Anyhoo... exactly what automotive experience DO you have? Hell, I can run > circles around you in the web-development field... that means I'm better > than you & should talk down to you? Huh... I didn't think so.. but if you > wanna play those games, then maybe I *am* better :P If this were actually a web-development newsgroup, you might actually have a point, fledgeling. Butt it ain't is it?
> -Mike > [quoted text clipped - 181 lines] > > CobraJet > > Thunder Snake #1
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memset@recorddeal.com - 06 Mar 2005 07:50 GMT This group doesn't encompass the entire world. You speak like you're a godly automotive technician... but you only post to bash other people. Exactly what experience DO you have? *smooch* *smooch* patrick.
-Mike
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> > *smooch* *smooch* Tastes like chicken. > [quoted text clipped - 197 lines] > CobraJet > Thunder Snake #1 John - 06 Mar 2005 12:43 GMT < the kids hurriedly left class after the final bell of the day and raced to the playground, because the word had spread like wildfire through the school, "there's going to be a fight! >
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> This group doesn't encompass the entire world. You speak like you're a > godly [quoted text clipped - 264 lines] >> CobraJet >> Thunder Snake #1 CobraJet - 06 Mar 2005 17:26 GMT > This group doesn't encompass the entire world. You speak like you're a godly > automotive technician... Technician? Is that what I became after changing MAF and 02 sensors? Argh. I'll stick to gearhead.
> but you only post to bash other people. No, I point out bullshit, like that which spewed from JD and BJ and you claiming it was a female that you had over for Valentine's din-din.
> Exactly > what experience DO you have? *smooch* *smooch* patrick. You like Patrick's butt, don't you? Familiar territory?
> -Mike > > -- > A happy kid
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memset@recorddeal.com - 06 Mar 2005 20:46 GMT > > This group doesn't encompass the entire world. You speak like you're a godly > > automotive technician... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > No, I point out bullshit, like that which spewed from JD and BJ and > you claiming it was a female that you had over for Valentine's din-din. Well, Patrick has done extremely well in pointing out YOUR bullshit... that you have no experience whatsoever Mr. "gearhead".
> > Exactly > > what experience DO you have? *smooch* *smooch* patrick. > > You like Patrick's butt, don't you? Familiar territory? Well duh!!
> > -Mike > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > CobraJet > Thunder Snake #1 -Mike
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CobraJet - 06 Mar 2005 22:00 GMT > > > This group doesn't encompass the entire world. You speak like you're a > godly [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Well, Patrick has done extremely well in pointing out YOUR bullshit... that > you have no experience whatsoever Mr. "gearhead". You know, I was just standing outside looking at my 460 and waiting for some mechanic to wander over and fiddle with it, when I had a thought. Yes, it *did* hurt.
Following your bravery in admitting a homosexual lifestyle, I thought maybe it's best if I own up to not being a mechanic. Not only would I have a huge load off my chest, but I can hang out in this newsgroup without looking to answer anyone's question. I can just hone in on the bullshit posts, and ask my *own* tech questions, since everyone here is more qualified than I.
Damn, that *does* feel good! OK, time to go back out and stare at my 460, but I'll be back tonight with some questions.
> > > Exactly > > > what experience DO you have? *smooch* *smooch* patrick. > > > > You like Patrick's butt, don't you? Familiar territory? > > Well duh!! Yeah, that was a thilly question.
> > > -Mike > > > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Subframe connectors > Aluminum adjustable clutch quadrant
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memset@recorddeal.com - 06 Mar 2005 22:46 GMT So you're not a mechanic & admit it. Thanks!
-Mike
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> > > > This group doesn't encompass the entire world. You speak like you're a > > godly [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > CobraJet > Thunder Snake #1 CobraJet - 07 Mar 2005 01:10 GMT > So you're not a mechanic & admit it. Thanks! No sweat. Now what we need to do is get you and Patty and Billy on call around the clock here to answer tech questions. Which shift do you want, Mikey?
> -Mike > [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] > > CobraJet > > Thunder Snake #1
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memset@recorddeal.com - 06 Mar 2005 23:38 GMT *Fondles CJ's boobies*
Had a homosexual urge. You have nice tits.
-Mike
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> > > > This group doesn't encompass the entire world. You speak like you're a > > godly [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > CobraJet > Thunder Snake #1 CobraJet - 07 Mar 2005 01:10 GMT > *Fondles CJ's boobies* > > Had a homosexual urge. You have nice tits. Now now, little pansy. Don't be trying to reach through the screen to touch us straight guys. I'm sure there's enough truck stop action on the Net to satisfy your depraved cravings.
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