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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / April 2005Latest Cobra Mustang To Soon Make Its Debut
Per BON: ---- Dearborn, Michigan. Ford Motor Company is set to introduce the next-generation SVT Cobra Mustang at the New York International Auto Show this March. Ford Motor Company has one press conference scheduled for the NYIAS on 23 March at 1:00pm, est. With the cancellation of the SVT Focus and SVT F150 Lightning, the SVT Mustang remains the only product in SVT's lineup. ---- Patrick '93 Cobra | With the cancellation of the SVT Focus and SVT F150 Lightning, the SVT | Mustang remains the only product in SVT's lineup. | ---- Then they have no excuse for not making it the biggest, baddest, coolest MOFO that hits the road this year! Kate I like your thinking. Scott > | With the cancellation of the SVT Focus and SVT F150 Lightning, the SVT > | Mustang remains the only product in SVT's lineup. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Kate Seconded! -Mike -- A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT Cold air intake FRPP 3.73 gears Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers (self-installed woohoo) Hi-speed fan switch 255/60R-15 rear tires Subframe connectors Aluminum adjustable clutch quadrant > I like your thinking. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > > Kate >| With the cancellation of the SVT Focus and SVT F150 Lightning, the >| SVT Mustang remains the only product in SVT's lineup. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Kate It's hitting the road this year? Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC > | With the cancellation of the SVT Focus and SVT F150 Lightning, the SVT > | Mustang remains the only product in SVT's lineup. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Kate It will be a total disappointment if it is nothing less than a 500hp sub 12sec car that can be had for less than 40K. Damn, you don't have *any* expectations, do you? -Wrath > Damn, you don't have *any* expectations, do you? > > -Wrath Well, they better come out with something that costs the same or less than a vette and has similar numbers to the Z06 or it's going to be a dissapointment. I can see a 400hp car for 35K, any more $ than that you'd better be pushing out some serious hp. What is it with some people? The Mustang never has and never will be in competition with the Z06. If you want Z06 performance, you gotta' pay for Z06 performance. The Z06 is going to be north of $65K, the Cobra is going to be less than $40K. On the other hand, something close to plain Corvette performance would be nice. Too bad the bean counters at Ford have decided that and IRS is too costly. 450+ bhp from a Whipple charged Terminator 4.6 or aluminum Whipple charged 5.4 AND an IRS is what the Cobra needs. Going fast in a straight line is not the only thing that interests me. Without wanting to start another Vette Vs. Cobra argument, my Cobra IS faster than a C5 and no matter what the nay-sayers think, handles quite well for a 3650 lb. pig. With a JLT RAI and a MagnaFlow cat-back I'm putting down 426 horses and 401 lb.ft of torque at the wheels to move my pig, dynoed at Amazon Racing on a Mustang dyno February 26th, 2005. If the new cobra can put down those numbers stock and weigh less than mine, with similar mods it will be faster in a straight line than the C6. Since Ford is whimping out on the IRS I hope the make the best damn live axle set-up to come out of Detroit. If not, and if I'm still interested in another Mustang, Roush will get my money. I may, I said may, be looking elsewhere to get the performance I'm looking for since Ford has again dropped the ball.  SignatureMike Silver 10th Anniversary Cobra Coupe --- >> Damn, you don't have *any* expectations, do you? >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > dissapointment. I can see a 400hp car for 35K, any more $ than that > you'd better be pushing out some serious hp. >What is it with some people? The Mustang never has and never will be in >competition with the Z06. If you want Z06 performance, you gotta' pay for [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >money. I may, I said may, be looking elsewhere to get the performance I'm >looking for since Ford has again dropped the ball. If your Cobra is stock and you are willing to lose the title I would be more then happy to prove to you that it is not faster then a stock C-5 Corvette, but alias it is not. Now if I put the same amount of monies in a C-5 that you have already done your Cobra and you run stock boost, you'll still have your hat handed to you. Why is it that the Cobra guys think they got something over a Corvette all the damn time. Buncha wannbes or what? Two different cars, for two different purposes. Roush wants your money, so does the insurance companies, and your local LE Officers. Signature"Maybe worshiping the cross and the painful death rather than the well lived life really has distorted our sense of who we are and what life is about." -- Author unkown >> What is it with some people? The Mustang never has and never will be >> in competition with the Z06. If you want Z06 performance, you gotta' [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > monies in a C-5 that you have already done your Cobra and you run > stock boost, you'll still have your hat handed to you. Ohh, I've put a whole $600 into my car, $450 cat-back and $150 CAI. And yes it's faster than a C5, been there done that before the above mods. > Why is it that the Cobra guys think they got something over a Corvette > all the damn time. Buncha wannbes or what? Two different cars, for > two different purposes. I knew this would start another argument. I never said my Cobra was better or had "something over a Corvette", I just said it was faster in a straight line than a C5. My little $600 addition puts me almost 100 horses to the ground more than a C5, that sure makes up for the few hundred pounds difference. Stock for stock the Cobra will consistently run a faster 1/4 than a C5, most C5 owners know this. The Corvette IS a different vehicle than a Mustang, it handles better and up until the Terminator has been faster. My whole point was that Ford could have taken on the Corvette with the next Cobra but has let the bean counters screw this up. > Roush wants your money, so does the insurance companies, and your > local LE Officers. What the f.ck do you care where my $$ goes? If I choose to purchase a Roush my insurance probably wouldn't be much different, just a bit more for the extra value. And what the f.ck to the local police care what kind of car I drive? SignatureMike Silver 10th Anniversary Cobra Coupe --- Heh. Last night I saw a 2003 SVT Cobra (red--f.cking beautiful) line up against my buddy in his 2003 Corvette........ and my friend was pissed that he lost. It was roughly 1/8 of a mile.. and the Cobra won by about 2 full car lengths... and the vette wasn't pulling.. it was fairly even. Hell, I love Corvettes.. and I love Mustangs (especially SVT Cobra's)... but the Cobra won.. and it wasn't THAT close of a match either. Both are stock. -Mike -- A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT Cold air intake FRPP 3.73 gears Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers (self-installed woohoo) Hi-speed fan switch 255/60R-15 rear tires Subframe connectors Aluminum adjustable clutch quadrant > >> What is it with some people? The Mustang never has and never will be > >> in competition with the Z06. If you want Z06 performance, you gotta' [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > Silver 10th Anniversary Cobra Coupe > --- >Heh. Last night I saw a 2003 SVT Cobra (red--f.cking beautiful) line up >against my buddy in his 2003 Corvette........ and my friend was pissed that [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >-Mike Then the guy in the Vette needs to give back his license cause he don't know how to drive. Signature"Maybe worshiping the cross and the painful death rather than the well lived life really has distorted our sense of who we are and what life is about." -- Author unkown Automatic. Don't be pissy b/c the Vette lost. Jeez. -Mike -- A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT Cold air intake FRPP 3.73 gears Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers (self-installed woohoo) Hi-speed fan switch 255/60R-15 rear tires Subframe connectors Aluminum adjustable clutch quadrant > >Heh. Last night I saw a 2003 SVT Cobra (red--f.cking beautiful) line up > >against my buddy in his 2003 Corvette........ and my friend was pissed that [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > than the well lived life really has distorted our sense > of who we are and what life is about." -- Author unkown > Heh. Last night I saw a 2003 SVT Cobra (red--f.cking beautiful) line up > against my buddy in his 2003 Corvette........ and my friend was pissed that [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > straight > Roush Thank you r_mccowin@duskmail.com >>> What is it with some people? The Mustang never has and never will be >>> in competition with the Z06. If you want Z06 performance, you gotta' [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] >extra value. And what the f.ck to the local police care what kind of car I >drive? I don't. Like I said Roush wants your money. As to the police, why spend that amount of money to drive 55? You can do that in a Focus. You trying to make up for short comings elsewhere? Signature"Maybe worshiping the cross and the painful death rather than the well lived life really has distorted our sense of who we are and what life is about." -- Author unkown Track time, perhaps? Attacking a person's "short comings elsewhere" is old as hell. Come up with some new sh.t I can laugh at =(. -Mike -- A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT Cold air intake FRPP 3.73 gears Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers (self-installed woohoo) Hi-speed fan switch 255/60R-15 rear tires Subframe connectors Aluminum adjustable clutch quadrant > >>> What is it with some people? The Mustang never has and never will be > >>> in competition with the Z06. If you want Z06 performance, you gotta' [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > than the well lived life really has distorted our sense > of who we are and what life is about." -- Author unkown >Track time, perhaps? Attacking a person's "short comings elsewhere" is old >as hell. Come up with some new sh.t I can laugh at =(. > >-Mike You want track time? Build a car for it and do it right. I love high-performance automobiles, always have always will. However, it is the overall performance package of HP, brakes, steering, and a modicum of comfort in a Streetable car. Want to go fast in a straight line, build a 1/4 miler. Signature"Maybe worshiping the cross and the painful death rather than the well lived life really has distorted our sense of who we are and what life is about." -- Author unkown Some people might want a fast 1/4 mile car straight from the factory while remaining streetable. Some ppl don't have the knowledge of experience to *build* their own fast 1/4 miler. -Mike -- A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT Cold air intake FRPP 3.73 gears Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers (self-installed woohoo) Hi-speed fan switch 255/60R-15 rear tires Subframe connectors Aluminum adjustable clutch quadrant > >Track time, perhaps? Attacking a person's "short comings elsewhere" is old > >as hell. Come up with some new sh.t I can laugh at =(. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > than the well lived life really has distorted our sense > of who we are and what life is about." -- Author unkown >>What is it with some people? The Mustang never has and never will be in >>competition with the Z06. If you want Z06 performance, you gotta' pay for [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > monies in a C-5 that you have already done your Cobra and you run > stock boost, you'll still have your hat handed to you. Really? So you're telling me NONE of those C5 driving dweebs I smoked knew how to drive? The 'Mr T Starter Kits' hanging on their necks must be cutting off critical blood flow! > Why is it that the Cobra guys think they got something over a Corvette > all the damn time. Buncha wannbes or what? Two different cars, for > two different purposes. > > Roush wants your money, so does the insurance companies, and your > local LE Officers. >>>What is it with some people? The Mustang never has and never will be in >>>competition with the Z06. If you want Z06 performance, you gotta' pay for [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >knew how to drive? The 'Mr T Starter Kits' hanging on their necks must >be cutting off critical blood flow! It is the only reason I can come up with. All other things consider the Vette should more then give any Cobra a run for it's money. The biggest contributing factor is the driver. You would be surprised to find out how many people who own High Performance vehicles can't drive worth a sh.t. >> Why is it that the Cobra guys think they got something over a Corvette >> all the damn time. Buncha wannbes or what? Two different cars, for >> two different purposes. >> >> Roush wants your money, so does the insurance companies, and your >> local LE Officers. Signature"Maybe worshiping the cross and the painful death rather than the well lived life really has distorted our sense of who we are and what life is about." -- Author unkown ---- el snippo ---- >>> If your Cobra is stock and you are willing to lose the title I would >>> be more then happy to prove to you that it is not faster then a stock [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >find out how many people who own High Performance vehicles can't drive >worth a sh.t. When it comes to straight line performance with stock cars and evenly matched drivers, the Cobra will smoke the C5 every time. I've seen (and lined up against) dozens of both makes in 1/4 mile passes at several different tracks over the last couple of years and it's no contest. The Z06 is different story of course. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Okie Tom - TS #62 1998 GT Coupe 5-spd. 2001 Ranger XLT www.bluestanggt.corral.net > What is it with some people? The Mustang never has and never will be in > competition with the Z06. If you want Z06 performance, you gotta' pay for [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >> dissapointment. I can see a 400hp car for 35K, any more $ than that >> you'd better be pushing out some serious hp. Regarding you comment about Roush, I certainly hope that they deliver a lot more than they have with the 2005 Roush Stage 1 Mustang. Just saw one in my local dealer and I was not terribly impressed. Stock engine and suspension. Added some cosmetics like a wing, exhaust and paint job for about $8000 more. >> What is it with some people? The Mustang never has and never will be >> in competition with the Z06. If you want Z06 performance, you gotta' [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > engine and suspension. Added some cosmetics like a wing, exhaust and > paint job for about $8000 more. I would look into the Stage 3 again if I was interested. The Stage 3 in '03 was rated just 10 hp and ft.lbs. less than the Cobra, but a fully loaded ($50K sticker) Roush would run circles around my Cobra. I opted for a $36K Cobra as it offered the performance level I wanted for an affordable price. SignatureMike Silver 10th Anniversary Cobra Coupe --- >> What is it with some people? The Mustang never has and never will be in >> competition with the Z06. If you want Z06 performance, you gotta' pay for [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >Added some cosmetics like a wing, exhaust and paint job for about $8000 >more. The new Saleen isn't much better. -Rich >> Damn, you don't have *any* expectations, do you? >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >dissapointment. I can see a 400hp car for 35K, any more $ than that you'd >better be pushing out some serious hp. Why beat the z06 ? I can tell you now; it WON'T happen. the z06 has 500hp and weighs less. To outdo it, the Mustang needs to have 550hp. Won't happen. Doesn't have to. My guess is it will be under 40K and have around 450 hp. Remove NO-SPAM from email address when replying > >> Damn, you don't have *any* expectations, do you? > >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Won't happen. Doesn't have to. My guess is it will be under 40K and > have around 450 hp. 450hp and under 40K I can live with. > 450hp and under 40K I can live with. I got that for under $20K. Or pretty damn close anyway. SignatureScott W. '66 Mustang HCS 289 '68 Ranchero 500 302 '69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W ThunderSnake #57 *sigh* you are such a tease | It will be a total disappointment if it is nothing less than a 500hp sub | 12sec car that can be had for less than 40K. |
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