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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / March 2005

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Follow Up on Stripe

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Adrian Gruber - 08 Mar 2005 15:31 GMT
I went to my local Ford Dealer yesterday to see if there are any products
available to bring the stripe back to life.
The parts manager told me the stripe on the hood is a genuine Ford part but
it can't be restored due to the mettalic nature of the stripe. All I could
do is peel it off and put a new one on. (Not Deirable) The other option he
suggestet was to go to a body shop and have them gently sand it with
microfine sand paper then clear coat it.
John H - 09 Mar 2005 00:58 GMT
>I went to my local Ford Dealer yesterday to see if there are any products
>available to bring the stripe back to life.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>suggestet was to go to a body shop and have them gently sand it with
>microfine sand paper then clear coat it.

I'm not very knowledgeable in the area, so if this is really a stupid question,
please give me some slack.

Why not peel the old one off and replace with a new one?

John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."
66 6F HCS - 09 Mar 2005 04:16 GMT
> Why not peel the old one off and replace with a new one?

Think of what happens to duct tape after it's been attached to something for
longer than 1 month in the heat and rain and sun and cold and wind. Then
think about trying to remove it???? Yechh. Well removing original stripes is
worse, and they've been on there for YEARS!
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Scott W.
'66 Mustang HCS 289
'68 Ranchero 500 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
ThunderSnake #57

Adrian Gruber - 09 Mar 2005 23:11 GMT
> I'm not very knowledgeable in the area, so if this is really a stupid
> question,
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>
> John H
The problem will be the clear coat on the hood. More than likely once i peel
off the old decal I'll wind up having to repaint the hoos.
SVTKate - 09 Mar 2005 20:28 GMT
Adrian,
I think that you could remove the old sripes and replace them. - or not.
Your car is only 2-3 years old so I think there is a possibility.
You never said how big the stripes are on the car.

Here's what I would suggest.
First, check locally for someone who does vinyl stripes. If you cannot find
them in the yellow pages, check some body shops and see who they use. If you
find someone then ask them if they could take the stripes off for you.

If by some chance you were feeling brave I think that you could remove them
yourself.
A heat gun should soften them enough, (using care not to blister your paint
the heat gun by using the low setting and just warming the stripe well but
not melting it) would refresh the adhesive enough to make the stripe
removable. If the heat gun scares you, then a blow dryer on high would
definitely be safer. You can get a bit loose with a fingernail, then heat
just as you pull. It will be a pain in the a.s, but it should come off. If
the stripe goes onto urethane bumpers and such, it may be a problem.

Once you got the vinyl off you could use good old fashioned lighter fluid on
a coarse terry cloth towell to remove the adhesive. Of course DO NOT USE
BOTH AT ONCE or it would catch fire and burn you and your car to the ground.
The lighter fluid will not hurt your paint at all and is less expensive than
goo-gone and that sort of thing. Sometimes if you can just get a little
piece started, you can jst drip lighter fluid onto the underside of the
peeled edge so that it contacts the adhesive and it will pull up. Slowly,
and you have to find that balance of drip it on, let it soak a few seconds
and then pull and repeat. It's a slow process but it works. Practice on
labels you have on items in your home, the label on your cigarett lighter,
the price tag on the bottom of that vase.. anything with a hard surface.
Wal Mart has lighter fluid pretty cheap in larger containers.

Then follow up with a good wash, polish and wax.

If it were my car, I would take a shot. But then, it wouldn't be MY first
rodeo.

Would love to see a photo or two of the stripes you are addressing.

Kate

|I went to my local Ford Dealer yesterday to see if there are any products
| available to bring the stripe back to life.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
| suggestet was to go to a body shop and have them gently sand it with
| microfine sand paper then clear coat it.
Adrian Gruber - 09 Mar 2005 23:18 GMT
> I think that you could remove the old sripes and replace them. - or not.
> Your car is only 2-3 years old so I think there is a possibility.
> You never said how big the stripes are on the car.

Kate, these stripes are big! (Think 302 BOSS!)

> If by some chance you were feeling brave I think that you could remove
> them
> yourself.
How about MAYO??

> A heat gun should soften them enough, (using care not to blister your
> paint
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> just as you pull. It will be a pain in the a.s, but it should come off. If
> the stripe goes onto urethane bumpers and such, it may be a problem.

No just on top of the hood.
> Wal Mart has lighter fluid pretty cheap in larger containers.
No, I'll stay away fronm the lighter fluid for now.
> Then follow up with a good wash, polish and wax.
>
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>
> Kate
Send me your email and I'll mail you my photos.

> |I went to my local Ford Dealer yesterday to see if there are any products
> | available to bring the stripe back to life.
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> | suggestet was to go to a body shop and have them gently sand it with
> | microfine sand paper then clear coat it.
Spike - 09 Mar 2005 21:02 GMT
Just an aside.... but have you checked to see if there is any kind of
Ford alert to dealers regarding the stripes? Often, the company sends
out a notice to dealers that it has discovered a problem with "X"
(like the buckle on my GM seatbelts was one due to the plastic
cracking). The dealer does nothing unless a customer comes in and
complains enough. My seatbelt buckles were replaced by the dealer at
GMs expense. If there had been no cracking, there was no requirement
for the dealer to take any action at all. Someone here may have a link
to Ford's alert notices so you can research the problem and see if it
is covered. By the way, the seatbelts were covered LONG after the
warrantee on the car had expired.

>I went to my local Ford Dealer yesterday to see if there are any products
>available to bring the stripe back to life.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>suggestet was to go to a body shop and have them gently sand it with
>microfine sand paper then clear coat it.

Hey! Spikey Likes IT!
1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok
Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior
Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8"
w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16
Adrian Gruber - 09 Mar 2005 23:19 GMT
> Just an aside.... but have you checked to see if there is any kind of
> Ford alert to dealers regarding the stripes? Often, the company sends
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> is covered. By the way, the seatbelts were covered LONG after the
> warrantee on the car had expired.
No luck there, just some sympathy..
Spike - 10 Mar 2005 02:51 GMT
Unless they make 'em outta totally different stuff today, I'd pick a
small area that's less noticeable and try one of the means already
recommended like ultra fine rubbing compound (even toothpaste) to
remove the oxidation and then some vinyl polish to put a protective
coat on. If it works in the small area... go for the gusto.

>I went to my local Ford Dealer yesterday to see if there are any products
>available to bring the stripe back to life.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>suggestet was to go to a body shop and have them gently sand it with
>microfine sand paper then clear coat it.

Hey! Spikey Likes IT!
1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok
Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior
Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8"
w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16
SVTKate - 10 Mar 2005 03:05 GMT
My experience with metallic and even plain vinyl stripes that go bad is that
you cannot condidion them back to life.
I have tried many different approaches and once the finish is gone, it's a
done deal.
The best thing I ever found for a temporary dress up was good old fashioned
Pledge and lots of it. but it was short lived.

Now, they may ahve come out with something new in recent years.

| Unless they make 'em outta totally different stuff today, I'd pick a
| small area that's less noticeable and try one of the means already
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| Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8"
| w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16
Spike - 10 Mar 2005 05:11 GMT
worked on my 72 'stang which had both vinyl panels and pinstripe
decals. What works in one instance doesn't always work in another.

>My experience with metallic and even plain vinyl stripes that go bad is that
>you cannot condidion them back to life.
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>| Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8"
>| w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16

Hey! Spikey Likes IT!
1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok
Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior
Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8"
w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16
SVTKate - 10 Mar 2005 12:04 GMT
You're absolutely right.
Horses of a different color and all that.
Polishing them would be much easier than removing them.

Kate

| worked on my 72 'stang which had both vinyl panels and pinstripe
| decals. What works in one instance doesn't always work in another.
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
| Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8"
| w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16
bluestang98@NOSPAMnetzero.net - 10 Mar 2005 13:47 GMT
>I went to my local Ford Dealer yesterday to see if there are any products
>available to bring the stripe back to life.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>suggestet was to go to a body shop and have them gently sand it with
>microfine sand paper then clear coat it.

3M makes a couple of products to remove stripes and decals.  One is
like a giant gum eraser disc, the other is a wheel made of strips of
something.  Each are designed to attach to a drill and they literally
erase the stripe material without damaging the paint.  I used the
latter of the 2 to remove the stripes off of my Ranger and it worked
like a charm.  I went back over each area (both sides of the truck,
nose to tail) with Meguiar's 3-step system and the result was perfect.
Check your local parts house that deals with paint/body items and I'll
bet you'll find it.

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1998 GT Coupe 5-spd.
2001 Ranger XLT  
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SVTKate - 10 Mar 2005 16:28 GMT
Good to know Tom, thanks!
isn't modern technology amazing :)

Kate

| >I went to my local Ford Dealer yesterday to see if there are any products
| >available to bring the stripe back to life.
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| 2001 Ranger XLT
| www.bluestanggt.corral.net 
bluestang98@NOSPAMnetzero.net - 11 Mar 2005 05:23 GMT
>Good to know Tom, thanks!
>isn't modern technology amazing :)
>
>Kate

No prob Katester.

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Okie Tom - TS #62

1998 GT Coupe 5-spd.
2001 Ranger XLT  
www.bluestanggt.corral.net
SVTKate - 11 Mar 2005 14:03 GMT
You goofball!

| >Good to know Tom, thanks!
| >isn't modern technology amazing :)
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| 2001 Ranger XLT
| www.bluestanggt.corral.net 
 
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