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Can you put dual exhausts (safely) on an 04 mustang 6 cylinder? No one wants to do it for me. >Can you put dual exhausts (safely) on an 04 mustang 6 cylinder? No one >wants to do it for me. First, you should ask why they refused...do they think you want to mess with the cats? There are plenty of cat-back kits. Another route is a new h-pipe and GT takeoffs. Here's one from MPS that includes a bumper cover (with the exhaust cutouts): http://www.stangparts.com/products/partpic.cfm?TypeID=2&ID=3329&Page=4&ShowSpeci als=FALSE Be prepard to spend $100-200 for a competent shop to install the pipes. A quick search found this dual exhaust install: http://www.miracerros.com/mustang/pipes.htm DP Pics of the cars: http://tinyurl.com/4fcsn >Can you put dual exhausts (safely) on an 04 mustang 6 cylinder? No one >wants to do it for me. ask yourself WHY its a SIX lmfao save your money dont be so cheap next time if you buy a sports car get a EIGHT hurc ast I'm a 50 year old woman, jackass, I bought what I wanted. I asked a civil question, I THOUGHT you people would give me a civil answer. Thanks for nothing, f.ck head. >>Can you put dual exhausts (safely) on an 04 mustang 6 cylinder? No one >>wants to do it for me. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > hurc ast LMAO. Pamela... ignore the douche bag. But really... there isn't much point of a dual exhaust on a V6 Mustang. Not to be rude, but you won't see any power gains that you'll feel. And it's expensive! Why not put the $$ towards a nice evening out or towards another mod (like gears?? you'll feel those haha :D)? Just my .02 cents. Regardless of which path you choose.. it's a Mustang.. Have fun =). -Mike -- http://www.MeltAwayCellulite.com/ > I'm a 50 year old woman, jackass, I bought what I wanted. I asked a civil > question, I THOUGHT you people would give me a civil answer. Thanks for [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > > > hurc ast >LMAO. Pamela... ignore the douche bag. But really... there isn't much point >of a dual exhaust on a V6 Mustang. Not to be rude, but you won't see any [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >-Mike I disagree. I put duals on my V-6 and I can feel (and hear) the difference. Better passing...better highway on-ramp. The car seems to rev easier and the MPG went up 1-2 MPG. It was not meant to be a high performance car...but it's running better than it did before. DP Pics of the cars: http://tinyurl.com/4fcsn That's awesome that you can feel a difference. Got a dyno sheet to prove the results? Not bashing or saying you're a liar at all... just curious what the actual gains are. Generally you don't feel any HP gains unless they are 10+ HP.. and I just find it amazing that switching to a dual exhaust netted 10+ HP. -Mike -- http://www.MeltAwayCellulite.com/ > >LMAO. Pamela... ignore the douche bag. But really... there isn't much point > >of a dual exhaust on a V6 Mustang. Not to be rude, but you won't see any [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Pics of the cars: > http://tinyurl.com/4fcsn >That's awesome that you can feel a difference. Got a dyno sheet to prove the >results? Not bashing or saying you're a liar at all... just curious what the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >-Mike It's a V-6...I bought it beacause it's a convertible. I'm not going to waste any money on dyno runs. Yeah...I could feel a difference after adding the duals. It was slight...I admit it. The car feels like it runs 'easier'. I'm not saying it'll smoke the tires off the line...but it gets on the highway a little easier and revs a little freer. In my seat-of-the-pants feel. Maybe that generality needs refining. I'm not calling you a liar at all, but do you have the repeatable scientific data to quantify that hypothesis? (please see the sarcasm inflected here) Let's say my duals freed up 5HP...that seems reasonable for a change from a single, small diameter exhaust to a dual exhaust designed for a V-8. That generality says a 300HP to 310HP change can could be felt. I'm saying maybe it's possible a similar percentage of a HP increase (150HP to 155HP and 300HP to 310HP) could be felt. And before this evolves into a fact-finding mission about 'feel' and 'dynos' and 'numbers' followed by links to timeslips and websites proving or disproving anything, let me finish this thread by saying...I'm having a little more fun with dual exhausts in my Mustangs. Case Closed DP Pics of the cars: http://tinyurl.com/4fcsn Apparently you took offense to what I said. You shouldn't have. I think it's killer that you can actually feel a difference... it's *rare*. I put a tornado fuel saver in my intake & swore I felt a difference... felt nothing. And your car has more than 150 HP... assuming it's a 2004. 2004 model V6 has 190hp and 220 ft-lbs of torque. Not too bad for a little 6! But still.. even 5HP you won't feel... or at least I wouldn't.. but who knows, maybe it's in your head.. maybe it isn't. I was asking for a dyno sheet because it'd be nice to have some proof when I tell people "hey this guy actually DID see a power increase from switching to a dual exhaust". But naturally, you got defensive & took offense like a little child. Good day. -Mike -- http://www.MeltAwayCellulite.com/ > >That's awesome that you can feel a difference. Got a dyno sheet to prove the > >results? Not bashing or saying you're a liar at all... just curious what the [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > Pics of the cars: > http://tinyurl.com/4fcsn >Apparently you took offense to what I said. You shouldn't have. I think it's >killer that you can actually feel a difference... it's *rare*. I put a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >-Mike I didn't call you a name. (I did specifically say I was being sarcastic) I didn't say you were wrong. ( First I said I disagreed about not feeling anything by adding duals, then I said the generality might need refining) Too bad you couldn't resist calling me a name (inane as that name-calling was). Let's just leave it at that. Cheers. DP Pics of the cars: http://tinyurl.com/4fcsn > I disagree. I put duals on my V-6 and I can feel (and hear) the > difference. Better passing...better highway on-ramp. The car seems > to rev easier and the MPG went up 1-2 MPG. > > It was not meant to be a high performance car...but it's running > better than it did before. I agree with Dinsdale. I also have a dual exhaust and a fenderwall cold air intake on my 1999 V6 ragtop and noticed a difference in the engine. Sure, the HP gain is minimal at most but at least the extra pipe lets the engine breath a little more. It also sounds very nice and everyone thinks I have an 8 in it. As a side note. Don't get it done at Midas with their "Go Ravin'" piece of sh.t sports mufflers. I had it installed on my Stang about 4 years ago and the mufflers on either side have broken around 4 or 5 times. I know mufflers don't last forever but come on, that's just too fragile. To get a simple weld, that took them all of about 5 minutes, they charged me $67. (Midas sports mufflers have a 1 year warranty.) A pipe rusted and they wanted $379 to fix that. (The dual exhaust system cost $479 to install originally.) This summer I'm going to buy a stainless steel system, probably Borla, and have that installed to replace this piece of sh.t Midas system. I don't know how that company even lives with themselves.  SignaturePaul > This summer I'm going to buy a stainless steel system, probably Borla, and > have that installed to replace this piece of sh.t Midas system. I don't > know how that company even lives with themselves. You need to know that Midas is alot like McDonalds. They have Corporate stores and franchises. The corporate stores will ALWAYS rape you. I went to 3 different Midas's for an estimate on a new dual 3" setup on my '69. The first was a corporate store (I didn't know it when I walked in). They quoted me $675 for a side exit system with a crossover and 18" glasspacks. I went to another store which was a franchise and was quote $400 for the exact same system. The third I went to was suggested to me by a former regional manager for Midas and also a Mustang devotee (He owns 1 boss, 2 '67 Shelby's, and a '69 CJ Mach1). The third shop quoted me $300 flat for, again, the same exact system. I'm not saying they're the best, just that a little homework should be done before making that kind of blanket statement. SignatureScott W. '66 Mustang HCS 289 '68 Ranchero 500 302 '69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W ThunderSnake #57 On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:56:41 -0700, "66 6F HCS" <92bottledance_spammit_@comcast.net> wrote something wonderfully witty: >> This summer I'm going to buy a stainless steel system, probably Borla, and >> have that installed to replace this piece of sh.t Midas system. I don't [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >I'm not saying they're the best, just that a little homework should be done >before making that kind of blanket statement. Here in Virginia we have a small regional (I think) chain called Big Al's with a play on Al Capone. They charge $199 for a dual setup. Signature"Maybe worshiping the cross and the painful death rather than the well lived life really has distorted our sense of who we are and what life is about." -- Author unkown > I'm not saying they're the best, just that a little homework should be > done before making that kind of blanket statement. Well, all the Midas' in my area must be corporates then. I went to three different stores and the prices weren't any different. Plus I caught on to a scam they do with their lifetime mufflers. A lady was in the one store getting her "lifetime" muffler serviced and the girl at the counter asked if she had her original receipt and what store she had the install done at. The other store was about 6 miles away and of course she didn't have her paperwork on her. The girl tells her that they can't access the records in computers at other locations and she was gonna have to pay now since they had no record of it being done. Real nice! Paul What scam? You want service on a lifetime guaranteed (for the life of the vehicle to the original purchaser) product and you go get service where it wasn't installed... of course you've got to prove its valid. '02 GT Black Not eggzackly stock. > > I'm not saying they're the best, just that a little homework should be > > done before making that kind of blanket statement. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Paul > What scam? You want service on a lifetime guaranteed (for the life of the > vehicle to the original purchaser) product and you go get service where it > wasn't installed... of course you've got to prove its valid. > > '02 GT Black > Not eggzackly stock. This is true. But wouldn't it be better customer service for them to have the record in a computer? (Computers are cheap nowadays.) What if your muffler fell apart on a long trip far away from home? I don't know many people who carry automotive work receipts or paperwork in their cars. SignaturePaul In a perfect world yeah that would work.. mebbe... But that assumes that some dickwad entered the correct data. GIGO is rampant. FWIW a warantee / guarantee card should have the receipt stapled to it when the paperwork is passed to the customer. Customer.. taking the unheard of action of accepting some responsibility for themself puts the paperwork in the glovebox... SignatureJafo '02 GT Black Not eggzackly stock. > > What scam? You want service on a lifetime guaranteed (for the life of the > > vehicle to the original purchaser) product and you go get service where it [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > muffler fell apart on a long trip far away from home? I don't know many > people who carry automotive work receipts or paperwork in their cars. Everybody these days expects things to be "as easy and convenient as possible". Noticed how noob-ish the web is becoming? I'm a professional web-developer & all of my work that visitors see absolutely has to be ungodly easy to use.... and for a reason, if it isn't so easy that a newborn monkey could use it .......then it won't be used as often! People take responsibility for themselves? Shyeah right =). -Mike -- Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean! http://www.MeltAwayCellulite.com/ > In a perfect world yeah that would work.. mebbe... > But that assumes that some dickwad entered the correct data. GIGO is [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > -- > > Paul Oh yeah! The point & click generation. I can't get over (well I can cuz I'm not affected) how they sell computers the same way they sell toasters.. take it home and plug it in is all you have to do. Then the users wail and moan when the puter won't work because they did something they shouldn't have done.. because they didn't know any better.... It all started with paper I think. SignatureJafo '02 GT Black Not eggzackly stock. > Everybody these days expects things to be "as easy and convenient as > possible". Noticed how noob-ish the web is becoming? I'm a professional [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > > -- > > > Paul >> What scam? You want service on a lifetime guaranteed (for the life of the >> vehicle to the original purchaser) product and you go get service where it [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >muffler fell apart on a long trip far away from home? I don't know many >people who carry automotive work receipts or paperwork in their cars. Then you don't know many people who have been f.cked by lifetime warranties of all different kinds. My absolute greatest story on Lifetime warranties actually happened to my Pops. He had the front-end on his Grand Marquis at a Sears which gave him a Lifetime Warranty. About a year later he need a new set of meats and went to a Sears store to buy them. While he was waiting to have them installed on of the grease monkies comes out and tells him the entire front-end needs to be rebuilt. Pops says go ahead and do it if it needs it. When presented with the rather large bill he whips out his Lifetime Warranty which he kept in the glove book with every other bit of paper work that has ever existed on that car to include the original window sticker. The service manager about sh.t a cow. Guess it didn't need a another new front-end after all. Signature"Maybe worshiping the cross and the painful death rather than the well lived life really has distorted our sense of who we are and what life is about." -- Author unkown LOL! Go pops! -Mike -- Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean! http://www.MeltAwayCellulite.com/ > >> What scam? You want service on a lifetime guaranteed (for the life of the > >> vehicle to the original purchaser) product and you go get service where it [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > than the well lived life really has distorted our sense > of who we are and what life is about." -- Author unkown >>>What scam? You want service on a lifetime guaranteed (for the life of the >>>vehicle to the original purchaser) product and you go get service where it [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > sticker. The service manager about sh.t a cow. Guess it didn't need > a another new front-end after all. Had a similar thing happen on an exhaust system on a truck of mine. I replaced the entire carbureted engine with a complete fuel injected engine and fuel system etcetera. I drove the truck With just the new Y pipe on it back to the muffler chain that had originally installed the complete exhaust system with LIFE TIME muffler. I asked them to "rehang" the exhaust system and attach it to the Y pipe from the new EFI system. They agreed to do it for $40. I said OK do it. The Monkey who was doing the work started his hard sell for replacing the muffler, because it was bad. I said it was fine just put it back on. He insisted, I relented and said fine put a new one on, it has your life time warranty anyway! He was so pissed he threw the old one (LARGE TRUCK muffler) across the shop three bays away... He ended up replacing all the "3 inch pipe, rather then cutting and pasting the thing back together. I removed the original life time warranty exhaust system, and thanks to this Monkey's greed, got a whole new life time warranty exhaust system for $40. :-) >>>>What scam? You want service on a lifetime guaranteed (for the life of the >>>>vehicle to the original purchaser) product and you go get service where it [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] >this Monkey's greed, got a whole new life time warranty exhaust system >for $40. :-) Once I start using a shop I am pretty loyal until the day that they try to pull some kind of crap on me. It usually happens after some type of management change or company merger. I was a very loyal customer of a local Merchants store until they were purchased by Tire Kingdom and decided to run a con on my wife. So now it is on to the local Firestone store where the Manager is a straight shooter and hasn't attempted to screw over me or any of my female family members yet. I was real clear to him about my tail of woe, which I can't get into because of pending legal maneuvers, and he knows what he has to do to keep my business, which with a half-dozen vehicle, four of which are driven regularly by my female family members equals quite of bit of business annually in tires, alignments & front-end work. I have no idea what these girls to do their vehicles. I think they like to go off-roading in them in their spare time or something. Signature"Either kill me or take me as I am, because I'll be damned if I ever change..." The Marquis de Sade >I'm a 50 year old woman, jackass, I bought what I wanted. I asked a civil >question, I THOUGHT you people would give me a civil answer. Thanks for >nothing, f.ck head. lmfao i guesses right tightwad hurc ast >>>Can you put dual exhausts (safely) on an 04 mustang 6 cylinder? No one >>>wants to do it for me. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >> hurc ast Don't pay attention, we have some immature assclowns around - but it's better than when we had Troy the Troll and The White Tornado here. As for the dual exhaust system on a V-6 - absolutely. Any late model Mustang Mag is chock full of companies that sell dual systems for V-6's, and you can get a duals system from Summit Racing catalogs. You will have to check your local emission ordinances to see what will be street legal for your car- some areas are a lot stricter than others. Signature---- www.captainredneck.com > I'm a 50 year old woman, jackass, I bought what I wanted. I asked a civil > question, I THOUGHT you people would give me a civil answer. Thanks for [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> >> hurc ast > I'm a 50 year old woman, jackass, I bought what I wanted. I asked a civil > question, I THOUGHT you people would give me a civil answer. Thanks for > nothing, f.ck head. Please, forward his reply to your question to abuse 'at' telus 'dot' net. Besure to include a complaint paragraph with it. Do not blow this off, we have their attention... >I'm a 50 year old woman, jackass, I bought what I wanted. I asked a civil >question, I THOUGHT you people would give me a civil answer. Thanks for >nothing, f.ck head. He is a jackass so just ignore him. Yes a set of duals can very easily and safely put on a V6 Mustang. Almost makes it sound like it has a V8 as well. See http://www.v6mustangstuff.com/exhaust.htm for some very nice systems that any competent local muffler shop should be able to install for you. The main site http://www.v6mustangstuff.com/ has all sorts of performance goodies for your V6 Stang. Another site http://www.v6power.net/ will show you V6's posting high 10's in the quarter. With a little effort your V6 can eat a stock GT's a.s for lunch and leave the poor pimple face kid like Firefox driving it wondering why his Grandma just spanked his a.s. Go get em girl. >>>Can you put dual exhausts (safely) on an 04 mustang 6 cylinder? No one >>>wants to do it for me. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >> hurc ast Signature"Maybe worshiping the cross and the painful death rather than the well lived life really has distorted our sense of who we are and what life is about." -- Author unkown >Can you put dual exhausts (safely) on an 04 mustang 6 cylinder? No one >wants to do it for me. simply not worth it ! Remove NO-SPAM from email address when replying >>Can you put dual exhausts (safely) on an 04 mustang 6 cylinder? No one >>wants to do it for me. > >simply not worth it ! > >Remove NO-SPAM from email address when replying thats what i said rruiter@yahoo.com hurc ast |
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