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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / April 20055.0L CAMMER
DOSE ANY ONE KNOW ANY SITE'S ON THE 5.0L CAMMER ENGINE?????? > DOSE ANY ONE KNOW ANY SITE'S ON THE 5.0L CAMMER ENGINE?????? Hey bigblack, first lose the all caps. Some folks are sensitive about the use of those. How's this? Ford Racing Technology will revolutionize the crate-engine concept when its new 5.0-liter Cammer crate engine becomes available in 2003. Instead of modifying a standard production engine to suit non-stock applications, Ford Racing specifically designed the Cammer to be one of the most technologically advanced crate engines any manufacturer has ever offered. This high-performance retrofit is an all-aluminum, overhead-cam, 4-valve engine that is a perfect repowering upgrade for vintage Mustangs, street rods, and classic truck projects. According to Ford Racing Technology engine engineer Andy Schwartz, "The 5.0-liter Cammer delivers a healthy 425-430 horsepower at 6700 rpm. The torque curve peaks with 370 foot-pounds at 4000 rpm." The 5.0-liter Cammer crate engine is based on the SVT Mustang Cobra's 4.6-liter 4-valve V-8. However, the crate version has several unique qualities and components, including: Larger cylinders (94mm vs. 90.2mm) for 5.0 liters of piston displacement Flanged cylinder liners Reinforced crankcase web areas Forged pistons 11.0:1 compression ratio Ported heads Higher-lift cams (12mm vs. 10mm) Beehive-shaped valve springs to accommodate the higher lift Modified roller-finger followers Multi-layer steel-insert head gaskets Higher-flow fuel injectors 3-piece cast-magnesium variable geometry intake manifold Higher-flow, dual-cone-spray fuel injectors The 5.0-liter Cammer crate engine will be shipped with a stock Mustang Cobra oil pan and exhaust manifolds. Installation will be eased substantially by a choice of six different 4.6-liter 4-valve modular wiring harnesses being created specifically for the 5.0-liter Cammer crate engine. "We intend to grow the interest in overhead-cam technology," said Dan Davis, director, Ford Racing Technology. "This is the future for tuners, project-vehicle builders and aftermarket car and truck enthusiasts. There's no reason why a crate engine can't start and perform as well in an aftermarket setting as the engines in production automobiles and trucks do. The 5.0-liter Cammer crate engine will provide top performance, a slick underhood appearance and excellent driveability without the hassles attached to carburetors and distributors." Patrick '93 Cobra NoOp Patrick wrote: > "We intend to grow the interest in overhead-cam > technology," said Dan Davis, director, Ford Racing [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > perform as well in an aftermarket setting as the engines > in production automobiles and trucks do. Well I can think of one real big reason: MSRP $14,995.00. Others: dimensions 39" wide, 37" tall, 35" long, and weight 669 lbs. ( http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=6787 ). Comparable numbers for a generic 400 hp $3500 iron head Chevy 383 are 26" wide, 27" tall, and 26" long and weight 535 lbs. Subtract 75 lbs for aluminum heads. ( http://www.westechperformance.com/pages/Tech_Library/Popular_Engine_Specs/dimens ions.html ) For $15,000 you can build a 700+ hp turbo motor. 180 Out > For $15,000 you can build a 700+ hp turbo motor. No sh.t. I have ~450 for just over $4k. About $10/HP.  SignatureScott W. '66 Mustang HCS 289 '68 Ranchero 500 302 '69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W ThunderSnake #57 >NoOp Patrick wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > >180 Out Or, $17,000 for a crate Hemi putting out about 650hp. But no a/c pump. :) -Rich >>NoOp Patrick wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > :) > -Rich For $17,500 you can buy my very OT 74 Camaro ready to run. It runs 9.12 @ 153 MPH. Runs SC, the dial is 9.18. Have the timing set at 36 to keep it slow. With me in it weight is about 2,530. Calculate that horsepower:) Al I get 707. ((153/234)^3 x 2530.) Yikes. But at $17,500 that's $24 per hp. Scott's Ford has got you beat on dollars/hp. :( Do you think that Camaro would make a good training car for a beginner? Does it have a/c? 180 Out >I get 707. ((153/234)^3 x 2530.) Yikes. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > 180 Out AC, no problem. I'll take off the Filter One and put on an AC filter:) Good training car? Sure thing, especially if you have some good life insurance. You will have to get an NHRA license. So you get some professional training and a FAA like check up by a doctor. I'm a few months for my 60th birthday, and I can drive it. Search Racingjunk for it: Ad #401989 Al > Search Racingjunk for it: Ad #401989 I checked it out. That thing is scary lookin. http://www.racingjunk.com/ui/2/9/694-1112052333029.jpg Too bad it's a '78; if it were a '75 or older I could street license it in Cali. At least the front suspension is on-topic, for a Mustang II anyway. I guess I could Google this, but what's a "Ron's toilet"? 180 Out (What happened to the "Big" in the sig? Should it be "Skinny Al"?) Big Al wrote: > Search Racingjunk for it: Ad #401989 I checked it out. That thing is scary lookin. http://www.racingjunk.com/ui/2/9/694-1112052333029.jpg Too bad it's a '78; if it were a '75 or older I could street license it in Cali. At least the front suspension is on-topic, for a Mustang II anyway. I guess I could Google this, but what's a "Ron's toilet"? 180 Out (What happened to the "Big" in the sig? Should it be "Skinny Al"?) Yes, I lost 50 pounds:) Ron's Toilet is a fuel injection system. This thing goes down the street fine, on my trailer. It's about 2 inches off the ground. Al > (What happened to the "Big" in the sig? Should it be "Skinny Al"?) > > Yes, I lost 50 pounds:) Since your race car's carrying 3.6 lbs per hp, that's 14 horsepower. Speaking of 5.0 Cammers (which we were), I just saw on the Barrett-Jackson web site that the Ford Racing Performance Products '65 fb, that was commissioned for last year's SEMA show to introduce the Cammer crate engine, went for $135,000 at the January Scottsdale auction. http://www.barrett-jackson.com/auctionresults/common/cardetail.asp?id=179864 I like the part in the B-J blurb where they describe the car's Heidt Mustang II conversion as giving it "modern handling ability." Yeah, the M II design came out in '75, making it 30 yrs old and only 10 years more "modern" than the OE stuff it replaced. There was also a Boyd Coddington '65 (also an M II conversion) $156,600 http://www.barrett-jackson.com/auctionresults/common/cardetail.asp?id=178352 but the one I liked best was a restomod with a 377W that pretty much anyone could build, that went for $42,200. http://www.barrett-jackson.com/auctionresults/common/cardetail.asp?id=180186 So maybe there's hope yet for us hobbyists out here with too much money in our cars, that if we step it up just that little bit more we might actually make some money. 180 Out |
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