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Need to make 1996 Mustang GT Louder!!! an Faster!!! HELP
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R - 12 Apr 2005 03:47 GMT hi everyone i am a owner of a 96 mustang gt....i have just put flowmaster exhaust cans on the car with the stock tailpips. It only really sounds good at about 2000 rpm an then i cant even hear it... kinda disapointing if u ask me, well i need help on how 2 wake up my 4.6 so u can hear it 5 miles away any suggestions?
SVTKate - 12 Apr 2005 04:08 GMT Yea.. sell it.
You are too stupid to know that you will annoy the hell out of everyone within that five mile radius and leave yourself as a target for every patrolman that wants to write a dumbass like yourself a ticket.
Sound harsh? Try living next door to the moron that has the pipes that can be heard "for a five mile radius"
A car can sound great without being loud enough to be obnoxious. You wanna hear a sweet sounding car? BlueStang98 has one that will make your dick drop in the dirt. Nothing special really to look at - like a normal car - but when he turns the key, it turns heads. Runs like a rabbid assed ape too. it's tasteful, and audible.
Go buy a Honda, drop it in the dirt, add a chicken wing to the deck lid that has at least a three foot lift and put a fart can muffler on it with lots of "make it go fast yellow" stickers and plug in some rap music and you will be in great shape.
Kate 98 Cobra Drop Top
| hi everyone i am a owner of a 96 mustang gt....i have just put | flowmaster exhaust cans on the car with the stock tailpips. It only | really sounds good at about 2000 rpm an then i cant even hear it... | kinda disapointing if u ask me, well i need help on how 2 wake up my | 4.6 so u can hear it 5 miles away any suggestions? R - 12 Apr 2005 04:15 GMT ok ok not that loud but it sounds the same as soon as i pass 2000 rpm i jus want the sweet sounding deep tone that the mustangs are known 4. im putting x-pipe on it in a few days an takin out all the cats...will that make the sound any different???
trainfan1 - 12 Apr 2005 04:44 GMT > ok ok not that loud but it sounds the same as soon as i pass 2000 rpm i > jus want the sweet sounding deep tone that the mustangs are known 4. im > putting x-pipe on it in a few days an takin out all the cats...will > that make the sound any different??? Keep the cats & ditch the mufflers instead.
The drone will, however, drive you nuts in quick time.
My '73 Mustang (factory 302/4bbl.) has no mufflers, no cats, no H-pipe, just straight pipes out the back. The neighbors hate me between 9:00pm & 9:00am, and pretty much all day too... even a hate call now & then when we fire it up... but it sure sounds great with a 5000 rpm WOT run-by!
Rob
R - 12 Apr 2005 04:46 GMT so run straight pipes from the heads back? but wont i lose power because there will be no back pressure?
Stephan Rose - 12 Apr 2005 06:25 GMT >so run straight pipes from the heads back? but wont i lose power >because there will be no back pressure? You're a f.cking idiot.
Please, just hand over the car to me.
Or here's an idea....put on a Y-Pipe, and I'll give you the exhaust can from my bike. I took the aftermarket exhaust off that the previous a.shole had on it, because it was just obnoxious. And replaced it with nice, quiet, stock exhaust. I can actually hear traffic around me now, its great.
But it really sounds like you and my old exhaust can would get along great! Both of them are obnoxious.
-- Stephan 2001 Yamaha YZF-R6
memset@recorddeal.com - 12 Apr 2005 06:28 GMT WTF crawled up your a.s and died? He's a f.cking idiot because he has a preference that differs from yours? Quit being an a.shole.
-Mike
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> >so run straight pipes from the heads back? but wont i lose power > >because there will be no back pressure? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Stephan > 2001 Yamaha YZF-R6 Stephan Rose - 12 Apr 2005 06:45 GMT >WTF crawled up your a.s and died? He's a f.cking idiot because he has a >preference that differs from yours? Quit being an a.shole. I can tell you what crawled up my a.s and died. Another asshat that decided I need to hear his exhaust 5 miles away in the morning when I'm trying to sleep. Some asshat that every time he starts his car, I hear it, if I want to or not.
Anyone who wants their exhaust be heard for a 5 mile radius... Anyone who considers just straight pipes out the back on a STREET car...
is as far as I'm concerned, a total f.cking moron.
But that's just me...
You are entitled to your own opinion, and yours may vary.
-- Stephan 2001 Yamaha YZF-R6
memset@recorddeal.com - 12 Apr 2005 12:28 GMT Ok, but you can stop being a fuckin j.rkoff about it & go about it a different way other than calling somebody (blatantly) "You're a f.cking idiot." Hell, you know what I have to say to that? You're a f.cking a.shole.
I agree, too loud is just annoying.. but I've heard some exhausts that were loud that I *liked* hearing. You will never please everybody.. and some ppl are so fuckin sensitive that you will always piss them off... so I guess you gotta do what makes YOU happy.. and in this case, rburdick@mcihispeed.net (R) wants a bit louder of an exhaust. All he has are a couple Flowmaster mufflers. That is FAR from too loud. Even with an offroad H-pipe.. it's FAR from too loud (because I can't hear my neighbors car until he gets RIGHT in his parking spot and it's a 93 SVT Cobra... and my other neighbor happens to drive a 98 Mustang GT w/ 2 Flowmaster mufflers and an O/R H-pipe and again.. I can't hear it until he gets right next to my place).
What I think is, you just felt like bitching because Kate did. I think Kate was a little too harsh, but she put some fuckin humor in it. You flat out ran your mouth & called the guy a "fuckin idiot". Ppl like that piss me off. Welcome to my kill file.
-Mike
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> >WTF crawled up your a.s and died? He's a f.cking idiot because he has a > >preference that differs from yours? Quit being an a.shole. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Stephan > 2001 Yamaha YZF-R6 SVTKate - 12 Apr 2005 13:38 GMT <memset@recorddeal.com> wrote *shipped*
| What I think is, you just felt like bitching because Kate did. I think Kate | was a little too harsh, but she put some fuckin humor in it. You flat out | ran your mouth & called the guy a "fuckin idiot". Ppl like that piss me off. | Welcome to my kill file. | | -Mike Yup, I was harsh and I'm not taking it back.
However I can honestly say that I do NOT believe that Stephen went off just because I did. He is perfectly capable of blowing his own fuse over what was initially an asinine post from what appeared to be a moron. Stephen has proven that before in threads that I had no part in.
Sometimes I am harsh -BUT- what I did get with my response was a guy (our fearless poster "R") that came back with a more reasonable explanation of what he was wanting to do. If he had been a common troll... the results would have been predictable.
Personally, I like a car to have some exhaust. Now that I live out in the boonies folks with excessive pipes are not a problem but when I lived in the city it was a pain in the a.s.
So, "R" do some research. You can go to different web sites and find sound clips for different exhaust combinations that may help you make a decision. LISTEN to different cars to see what you like and then as the people what they have on their car. Keep in mind a few simple truths.
Excessively loud cars draw unwanted attention. Be it law enforcement, vandals or the guy that is road raging or the neighbor that alienate. If you destroy your emissions system for the sake of more sound, you WILL pay the price eventually. If you go crazy, your hearing WILL suffer. You may not notice it now, but wait till you are in your mid 40s and you have trouble hearing. And it WILL get worse.
So, think about it. DO the research and make a wise decision.
Mike and Stephen... c'mon guys... calm down.
Kate
Stephan Rose - 12 Apr 2005 14:32 GMT ><memset@recorddeal.com> wrote >*shipped* [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >initially an asinine post from what appeared to be a moron. Stephen has >proven that before in threads that I had no part in. Precisely =)
>Sometimes I am harsh -BUT- what I did get with my response was a guy (our >fearless poster "R") that came back with a more reasonable explanation of >what he was wanting to do. >If he had been a common troll... the results would have been predictable. I've yet to see anything I consider more reasonable..
>Personally, I like a car to have some exhaust. Now that I live out in the >boonies folks with excessive pipes are not a problem but when I lived in the >city it was a pain in the a.s. Yea I agree, exhaust is fine. Obnoxious on the other hand....
>So, "R" do some research. You can go to different web sites and find sound >clips for different exhaust combinations that may help you make a decision. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Mike and Stephen... c'mon guys... calm down. I could not be any calmer =)
-- Stephan 2001 Yamaha YZF-R6
SVTKate - 12 Apr 2005 22:39 GMT | I could not be any calmer =) | | -- | Stephan | 2001 Yamaha YZF-R6 The Zen Master....
*snikker*giggle*
Riiiiight...!!
Stephan Rose - 13 Apr 2005 01:46 GMT >| I could not be any calmer =) >| [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Riiiiight...!! Hahaha but of course!! =)
I can, in a totally calm expression, calm voice, without the slightest emotion, tell someone what a fucktard they are. No problem at all =)
-- Stephan 2001 Yamaha YZF-R6
Stephan Rose - 12 Apr 2005 14:33 GMT >Welcome to my kill file. And I care, why? Suit yourself.
-- Stephan 2001 Yamaha YZF-R6
Scotter - 12 Apr 2005 07:22 GMT I'm with Kate on this. And while we are talking about people being insensitive (or just plain stupid), let's also talk about fog lights. Just because you *have* foglights, doesn't mean you need to use them when the weather is clear and your normal driving lights will do fine. You can do other things to "look cool" that do not annoy and distract those around you. And finally, back to sound, WTF is it with bass thumping so hard I can hear it a block away in MY car with my windows up and my own stereo on? Admit it that when you turn your stereo up that loud, it doesn't sound good to you until you have lost half your hearing. The only people you will impress with loudness (audible & visual) are other dorks like yourself who have no taste, sensitivity, or intelligence. "Look at me, I'm a big dork who needs attention," is what most people think of your cheesy/annoying display. How many people smart enough to afford $40,000+ cars do you see driving around with foglights on in clear weather, loud mufflers, and thumping bass? And how many do you see doing all of the above in cheaper cars? Getting a clue yet?
 Signature Scotter 96 GT vert 3.73 gears, filtercharger
> Yea.. sell it. > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > | kinda disapointing if u ask me, well i need help on how 2 wake up my > | 4.6 so u can hear it 5 miles away any suggestions? bluestang98@NOSPAMnetzero.net - 12 Apr 2005 13:57 GMT >Yea.. sell it. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >hear a sweet sounding car? BlueStang98 has one that will make your dick drop >in the dirt.
>Nothing special really to look at - like a normal car Gee, thanks babe. Normal car, eh? Why I oughta...
>but when he turns the key, it turns heads. Runs like a rabbid assed ape too. >it's tasteful, and audible. Okay, that's a little better, you're SORTA off the hook but you better watch your step! {;-)
>Go buy a Honda, drop it in the dirt, add a chicken wing to the deck lid that >has at least a three foot lift and put a fart can muffler on it with lots of >"make it go fast yellow" stickers and plug in some rap music and you will be >in great shape. rofl... funny stuff Kate, funny stuff.
>Kate >98 Cobra Drop Top [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >| kinda disapointing if u ask me, well i need help on how 2 wake up my >| 4.6 so u can hear it 5 miles away any suggestions? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Okie Tom - TS #62
1998 GT Coupe 5-spd. 2001 Ranger XLT
SVTKate - 12 Apr 2005 22:45 GMT | >Yea.. sell it. | > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] | | Gee, thanks babe. Normal car, eh? Why I oughta... You oughtta... whut???? Huh huh...?? I ain't scared of you.. .boy! It DOES look normal, even with those ugly tail lights! But man... put a bag over it's head and listen to it moan in your ear, and it's all about the 10 at 2!
| >but when he turns the key, it turns heads. Runs like a rabbid assed ape too. | >it's tasteful, and audible. | | Okay, that's a little better, you're SORTA off the hook but you better | watch your step! {;-) No kidding! Like the last time I was OKC and didn't... ??? You got that one right.
| >Go buy a Honda, drop it in the dirt, add a chicken wing to the deck lid that | >has at least a three foot lift and put a fart can muffler on it with lots of | >"make it go fast yellow" stickers and plug in some rap music and you will be | >in great shape. | > | rofl... funny stuff Kate, funny stuff. I guess the kid's intentions are good, it was just a case of how it read once posted.
| >Kate | >98 Cobra Drop Top
| >| hi everyone i am a owner of a 96 mustang gt....i have just put | >| flowmaster exhaust cans on the car with the stock tailpips. It only [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] | 1998 GT Coupe 5-spd. | 2001 Ranger XLT fordsrus12473@yahoo.com - 12 Apr 2005 04:12 GMT >hi everyone i am a owner of a 96 mustang gt....i have just put >flowmaster exhaust cans on the car with the stock tailpips. It only >really sounds good at about 2000 rpm an then i cant even hear it... >kinda disapointing if u ask me, well i need help on how 2 wake up my >4.6 so u can hear it 5 miles away any suggestions? lmfao why?? a mustang is a pos
hurc ast
memset@recorddeal.com - 12 Apr 2005 05:32 GMT Go with an H-pipe that has 2 high-flow catalytic converters... which goes to 2 Flowmaster 40 series mufflers.. and no tail pipes or tail pipes. Whichever. More tasteful with tail pipes, louder w/out (but still sounds good).
But don't get so loud that you piss ppl off... or you might find slashed tires or scraped off paint (yes, ppl can be dicks).
-Mike
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> hi everyone i am a owner of a 96 mustang gt....i have just put > flowmaster exhaust cans on the car with the stock tailpips. It only > really sounds good at about 2000 rpm an then i cant even hear it... > kinda disapointing if u ask me, well i need help on how 2 wake up my > 4.6 so u can hear it 5 miles away any suggestions? mustangGT_00 - 12 Apr 2005 05:50 GMT I just took off the cats of the stock H-pipe put MIL eliminators and saved some $$. with 40 series mufflers it sounds really loud enough.
memset@recorddeal.com - 12 Apr 2005 06:22 GMT How did you take off the cats? Just weld/clamp in other pipe where the cats were?
-Mike
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> I just took off the cats of the stock H-pipe put MIL eliminators and saved > some $$. with 40 series mufflers it sounds really loud enough. mustangGT_00 - 12 Apr 2005 21:16 GMT Yup, just as you said, but the front two were hard to take off, so I just "emptyed" them so they are still there with nothing inside. it sounds the same as I spent $$$ on aftermarket stuff.
memset@recorddeal.com - 12 Apr 2005 21:35 GMT Why didn't ya pull the entire H-pipe & use a recip. saw to cut 'em out? Or even an angle grinder w/ a cutting wheel... then grind it down. I'd use a recip. saw & a few blades.
I'm shopping around for an H-pipe with 2 high-flow cats. I have a Steeda adjustable clutch cable on the way.. should arrive tomorrow or day after. Mine snapped :(.
-Mike
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> Yup, just as you said, but the front two were hard to take off, so I just > "emptyed" them so they are still there with nothing inside. it sounds the > same as I spent $$$ on aftermarket stuff. 351CJ - 12 Apr 2005 08:44 GMT > hi everyone i am a owner of a 96 mustang gt....i have just put > flowmaster exhaust cans on the car with the stock tailpips. It only > really sounds good at about 2000 rpm an then i cant even hear it... > kinda disapointing if u ask me, well i need help on how 2 wake up my > 4.6 so u can hear it 5 miles away any suggestions? Get out your CHECK BOOK!!! More noise equals more tickets! Period!
That doesn't even touch on the irreversible "permanent" low tone hearing loss...
bluestang98@NOSPAMnetzero.net - 12 Apr 2005 14:07 GMT >hi everyone i am a owner of a 96 mustang gt....i have just put >flowmaster exhaust cans on the car with the stock tailpips. It only >really sounds good at about 2000 rpm an then i cant even hear it... >kinda disapointing if u ask me, well i need help on how 2 wake up my >4.6 so u can hear it 5 miles away any suggestions? Here's what contibutes to my car's exhaust note that Kate's so fond of:
98 GT w/ 2000 heads FRPP coated shorty headers Bassani Stainless Steel Offroad X Bassani Stainless Steel Cat-Back w/baffles
Generally speaking, most people prefer the sound of straight-through type mufflers with X-pipes (particularly Offroad X-pipes) while chambered mufflers tend to be more pleasing with H-pipes. Often when you mix these this formula incorrectly the result is a wicked drone around 2000 rpm's that'll rattle your teeth outta your head.
Unfortunately the exact model of Bassani X that I have isn't available as a 1-piece part anymore, they did a slight re-design to make shipping more affordable. Still great stuff though and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it. If I had to do it all over again I'd take a hard look at the Magnaflow stuff... same stainless steel construction at a little more reasonable price.
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1998 GT Coupe 5-spd. 2001 Ranger XLT
Garth Almgren - 12 Apr 2005 18:55 GMT > hi everyone i am a owner of a 96 mustang gt....i have just put > flowmaster exhaust cans on the car with the stock tailpips. It only > really sounds good at about 2000 rpm an then i cant even hear it... > kinda disapointing if u ask me, well i need help on how 2 wake up my > 4.6 so u can hear it 5 miles away any suggestions? Why did you waste money on mufflers if you wanted your car to be that loud?
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memset@recorddeal.com - 12 Apr 2005 21:07 GMT Garth,
LOL... well, he made it pretty clear that he doesn't exactly know what he's doing. He's just throwing parts at it w/out doing his homework. Probably based on a friend's recommendation or a shop's sales pitch.. maybe even a performance shop's sales pitch. Who knows :P~~.
-Mike
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> > hi everyone i am a owner of a 96 mustang gt....i have just put > > flowmaster exhaust cans on the car with the stock tailpips. It only [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > | RAMFM Merchandise: http://www.cafeshops.com/ramfm | > \ Mail pgp@v6stang.com for secure reply information / Quiet Desperation - 12 Apr 2005 23:09 GMT > well i need help on how 2 wake up my > 4.6 so u can hear it 5 miles away any suggestions? Cram eight guys in it and have them shout "VROOM! VROOM!" in unison.
Rinse.
Repeat.
memset@recorddeal.com - 12 Apr 2005 23:14 GMT Lmao..
-Mike
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> > well i need help on how 2 wake up my > > 4.6 so u can hear it 5 miles away any suggestions? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Repeat. SVTKate - 13 Apr 2005 02:17 GMT | > well i need help on how 2 wake up my | > 4.6 so u can hear it 5 miles away any suggestions? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] | | Repeat. FOFLMGDAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kate
one80out@hotmail.com - 13 Apr 2005 02:05 GMT > Hi everyone i am a owner of a 96 mustang gt.... > i have just put flowmaster exhaust cans on the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > how 2 wake up my 4.6 so u can hear it 5 miles away > any suggestions? Tube headers will add a lot of noise. Also get the largest diameter pipes and cats you can find. Flowmaster 40's are widely acknowledged as about the loudest thing out there, but they also make a race car muffler that is even louder. H-pipes and X-pipes decrease the noise, so stay away from those. An unsilenced air cleaner can add induction howl. Removing sound insulation will make your car a lot louder from the driver's seat. So will solid motor mounts.
180 Out (No, I don't own a hearing aid company, but I wish I did.)
Stephan Rose - 13 Apr 2005 02:13 GMT >> Hi everyone i am a owner of a 96 mustang gt.... >> i have just put flowmaster exhaust cans on the [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >180 Out >(No, I don't own a hearing aid company, but I wish I did.) I do think however we should all find some good hearing aid companies to invest in and buy stocks. I have this feeling that in 10 years from now when all the...how should I put this without hurting poor mike's feelings...intellectually challenged? There, I tried to be polite about it. Anyway, when all those people finally start to loose their hearing from obnoxious exhaust systems or stereo systems, we'll be rich!
-- Stephan 2001 Yamaha YZF-R6
SVTKate - 13 Apr 2005 02:23 GMT Aww c'mon now. Mike's a damn smart kid. He was just sticking up for the new guy.
Though that stock tip isn't a bad idea... all those kids listening to that crap thumping their stereos ...
Kate
| >> Hi everyone i am a owner of a 96 mustang gt.... | >> i have just put flowmaster exhaust cans on the [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] | Stephan | 2001 Yamaha YZF-R6 Stephan Rose - 13 Apr 2005 03:14 GMT >Aww c'mon now. Mike's a damn smart kid. >He was just sticking up for the new guy. Hey, I got no problems w/ Mike, that's all up to him =)
>Though that stock tip isn't a bad idea... all those kids listening to that >crap thumping their stereos ... Exactly!
-- Stephan 2001 Yamaha YZF-R6
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