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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / April 2005

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Where the hell are the amps on the 05?

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japhar81 - 18 Apr 2005 18:53 GMT
Anyone know? Been searching and searching. I have the shaker 500 setup...
Trying my damndest to find out where the Aux input jack is, and where I can
wire my extra subs.
cprice@here.com - 19 Apr 2005 05:14 GMT
> Anyone know? Been searching and searching. I have the shaker 500 setup...
> Trying my damndest to find out where the Aux input jack is, and where I can
> wire my extra subs.

    SVTKate was saying the amps for her Mach 460 in her Cobra were under
her backseat if I recall correctly. You had to remove the seat to get at
the amps.

    Not positive on this...

   
japhar81 - 19 Apr 2005 13:50 GMT
Yeah, mine were there too in the '04. The '05 hides them though... cant find
them.

>> Anyone know? Been searching and searching. I have the shaker 500 setup...
>> Trying my damndest to find out where the Aux input jack is, and where I
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>
> Not positive on this...
Zig-Zag - 19 Apr 2005 15:40 GMT
|Anyone know? Been searching and searching. I have the shaker 500 setup...
|Trying my damndest to find out where the Aux input jack is, and where I can
|wire my extra subs.

According to the service manual, the amps for the Shaker 500 subwoofers are
located in the doors with the speakers.

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Zig-Zag

japhar81 - 19 Apr 2005 16:27 GMT
Sure, because why make it easy for people to do what they want to their
cars...

Does that manual say anything about where the aux port is?

> |Anyone know? Been searching and searching. I have the shaker 500 setup...
> |Trying my damndest to find out where the Aux input jack is, and where I
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> are
> located in the doors with the speakers.
Zig-Zag - 19 Apr 2005 16:49 GMT
|Sure, because why make it easy for people to do what they want to their
|cars...
|
|Does that manual say anything about where the aux port is?

Let's see...   Here's a thread on this subject that includes a pinout.

<http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?showtopic=14039&hl=>

Good luck with this.  I know there are quite a few people working on enabling
AUX input but I haven't heard of anyone actually succeeding as of yet.

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japhar81 - 19 Apr 2005 17:23 GMT
I swear, ford is just out to piss me off lately.. One more for you Zig, is
there a way to wire in an RCA output to hook up some additional amps for
subwoofers without pigtailing off the rear channel speakers?

> |Sure, because why make it easy for people to do what they want to their
> |cars...
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> enabling
> AUX input but I haven't heard of anyone actually succeeding as of yet.
Zig-Zag - 20 Apr 2005 14:57 GMT
|I swear, ford is just out to piss me off lately.. One more for you Zig, is
|there a way to wire in an RCA output to hook up some additional amps for
|subwoofers without pigtailing off the rear channel speakers?

None of the wiring diagrams I've seen indicate a RCA level output.  :(

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japhar81 - 20 Apr 2005 15:14 GMT
Have you seen any outputs that can be spliced to an aftermarket amp?

I know in the 04, I had to buy that silly converter box, cant remember what
it was called, had the wiring to tie into the regular signal, and converted
it to RCA level.

> |I swear, ford is just out to piss me off lately.. One more for you Zig,
> is
> |there a way to wire in an RCA output to hook up some additional amps for
> |subwoofers without pigtailing off the rear channel speakers?
>
> None of the wiring diagrams I've seen indicate a RCA level output.  :(
66 6F HCS - 21 Apr 2005 04:29 GMT
> and converted it to RCA level.
>
>> None of the wiring diagrams I've seen indicate a RCA level output.  :(

Just for clarities sake, there is no such thing as RCA level. There is high
(amplified) and low (line) level. RCA is the style of plug usually
associated with line level (low) input/output. You can run high level
through an RCA plug also. Just look at the plugs on a set of old tower
speakers on the back of an old console stereo (think Samsung or Panasonic).
RCA all the way.
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'66 HCS Mustang 289
'68 Ranchero 500 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
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japhar81 - 21 Apr 2005 13:31 GMT
Youre right.. I need to figure out where I can wire in a high to low
converter so i can run RCA to the line inputs on my amps.

>> and converted it to RCA level.
>>
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> speakers on the back of an old console stereo (think Samsung or
> Panasonic). RCA all the way.
66 6F HCS - 21 Apr 2005 20:38 GMT
> Youre right.. I need to figure out where I can wire in a high to low
> converter so i can run RCA to the line inputs on my amps.

Most amps also have high inputs without converting. Though the sound isn't
as good.
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Scott W.
'66 HCS Mustang 289
'68 Ranchero 500 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
ThunderSnake #57
http://home.comcast.net/~vanguard92/

japhar81 - 21 Apr 2005 20:47 GMT
Yes, but where oh where can i splice in?

The amps are hidden inside my door panels, and I keep reading that the HU
has some fugly molex thing going on thats impossible to tap into.

So how do I splice in some more sub goodness without swapping out the HU?

>> Youre right.. I need to figure out where I can wire in a high to low
>> converter so i can run RCA to the line inputs on my amps.
>
> Most amps also have high inputs without converting. Though the sound isn't
> as good.
66 6F HCS - 21 Apr 2005 23:46 GMT
> Yes, but where oh where can i splice in?
>
> The amps are hidden inside my door panels, and I keep reading that the HU
> has some fugly molex thing going on thats impossible to tap into.
>
> So how do I splice in some more sub goodness without swapping out the HU?

Use wire taps somewhere in the harness.
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Scott W.
'66 HCS Mustang 289
'68 Ranchero 500 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
ThunderSnake #57
http://home.comcast.net/~vanguard92/

japhar81 - 22 Apr 2005 13:58 GMT
>> Yes, but where oh where can i splice in?
>>
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>
> Use wire taps somewhere in the harness.

Yeah, but WHERE in the harness? Theres no diagrams available:-/
66 6F HCS - 22 Apr 2005 18:21 GMT
> Yeah, but WHERE in the harness? Theres no diagrams available:-/

Go to your friendly neighborhood Ford service dept. and ask'em if they can
printout the schematic for the radio wiring. It should have color coding to
tell you which wire is which. Or if they won't print it out for you, ask'em
if you can just write down what the wiring color codes are. You only need to
know the colors for the speakers anyway.

The other option is to splice in right at the speaker. disconnect the
speaker and tap the plug back to the amp. The problem then is that you have
to run two sets of wires. One from the plug to the amp and another from the
amp back to the speaker. A double PITA. If the wiring color code is the same
at the speaker plug as it is at the HU, then you're in luck and can tap
right at the HU.

Another option is to get a voltmeter and test each individual wire coming
out of the HU. But this would take FOREVER.
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Scott W.
'66 HCS Mustang 289
'68 Ranchero 500 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
ThunderSnake #57
http://home.comcast.net/~vanguard92/

66 6F HCS - 19 Apr 2005 19:10 GMT
> Sure, because why make it easy for people to do what they want to their
> cars...
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>> are
>> located in the doors with the speakers.

The same as most other high end "factory installed" sound systems. Chrysler
used to have an individual amplifier mounted on each individual speaker in
the Infinity systems. STUPID!!! Dunno if they still do that. I think the old
Ford JBL system did the same. Just another thing you HAVE to go to the
dealer for. That's why they do it that way. The dinky 5.25" door speakers
used by Chrysler were like $130/piece!!

I doubt there is an AUX input or output unless you get an adapter which is
probably an aftermarket piece.
Signature

Scott W.
'66 HCS Mustang 289
'68 Ranchero 500 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
ThunderSnake #57
http://home.comcast.net/~vanguard92/

japhar81 - 19 Apr 2005 19:25 GMT
it IS an aftermarket adaptor, except no one has one.

>> Sure, because why make it easy for people to do what they want to their
>> cars...
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> I doubt there is an AUX input or output unless you get an adapter which is
> probably an aftermarket piece.
omarsimms25793@hotmail.com - 19 Apr 2005 23:57 GMT
>it IS an aftermarket adaptor, except no one has one.
a paki fuctard worries more about the sterio than motor

hurc ast
NoOne - 20 Apr 2005 14:33 GMT
> >it IS an aftermarket adaptor, except no one has one.
>  a paki fuctard worries more about the sterio than motor
>
> hurc ast

Hey Omar, Assistant Soap Tech,

A spell checker would at least make you look only half
as stupid as you are......  the other half is just genetic,
too bad for you....  keep washing those cars and maybe
your boss will promote you to the tire change bay !
Ralph Snart - 20 Apr 2005 23:31 GMT
>> >it IS an aftermarket adaptor, except no one has one.
>>  a paki fuctard worries more about the sterio than motor
>>
>> hurc ast
>
> Hey Omar, Assistant Soap Tech,

I notice that there is a misspelling here.

'hurc ast' is really 'hurt a.s'; probably what he feels after taking it up
the rear....
 
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