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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / April 2005

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Bort - 22 Apr 2005 01:56 GMT
I had some questions i was wondering if you guys could answer for me.

I tried to look through a lot of recent posts, but couldn't really find
many answers, so if any of these are repeats, don't hesitate to let me
know...i can do further research.

I live in Chicago so i get snow here.  Any idea if this car handles
poorly in snow?

Anyone know the approximate price difference between a V6 and a V8?
How about performance, is there a HUGE difference, or should i only
consider a V8 if i want to go drag racing?

I will be able to get the "Friends & neighbors" discount, any idea
approximately how much one of these would cost with that?  I mean i saw
"Base Price" in Consumer Reports said $19k, but everything i've read on
here makes it seem like $25k is more standard.  So with a discount off
of one of those prices, anyone know how much?

Being in the city, would it be a bad idea to get a stick shift?

Do you guys know if it would even be possible to get 0% APR financing
from anywhere?  I mean have you seen dealers that have done this, or
have you most dealers at 4% or something?

Can anyone attest to the reliability?  Have you owned one for a few
months, any problems, etc.?

Any information is appreciated, thanks guys!
.boB - 22 Apr 2005 05:22 GMT
> I had some questions i was wondering if you guys could answer for me.
>
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> I live in Chicago so i get snow here.  Any idea if this car handles
> poorly in snow?
    It has traction control, and a stick is a lot
easier in the snow than an auto.  As long as you're a
good driver and have good tires, it shouldn't be a problem.

> Anyone know the approximate price difference between a V6 and a V8?
> How about performance, is there a HUGE difference, or should i only
> consider a V8 if i want to go drag racing?
    There's not a whole lot of differance in power
levels, surprisingly enough.  But take a close look at
what you get with the V* - things like 4 wheel ABS,
sway bars, etc.  The GT is a much better car, IMO.

> I will be able to get the "Friends & neighbors" discount, any idea
> approximately how much one of these would cost with that?  I mean i saw
> "Base Price" in Consumer Reports said $19k, but everything i've read on
> here makes it seem like $25k is more standard.  So with a discount off
> of one of those prices, anyone know how much?
   It will vary greatly from dealer to dealer.
Depends on how hot the market is.

> Being in the city, would it be a bad idea to get a stick shift?
   Not to me.  Stick is the only way to go.

> Do you guys know if it would even be possible to get 0% APR financing
> from anywhere?  I mean have you seen dealers that have done this, or
> have you most dealers at 4% or something?
    The 0% financing deals are disappearing fast.

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.boB
1997 HD FXDWG - Turbocharged!
2001 Dodge Dakota QC 5.9/4x4/3.92
1966 Mustang Coupe - Daily Driver
1966 FFR Cobra - Ongoing project

me - 22 Apr 2005 21:30 GMT
>> I had some questions i was wondering if you guys could answer for me.
>>
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>what you get with the V* - things like 4 wheel ABS,
>sway bars, etc.  The GT is a much better car, IMO.

a 90 hp difference isn't much?

>> I will be able to get the "Friends & neighbors" discount, any idea
>> approximately how much one of these would cost with that?  I mean i saw
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>> have you most dealers at 4% or something?
>     The 0% financing deals are disappearing fast.
.boB - 23 Apr 2005 01:38 GMT
>>    There's not a whole lot of differance in power
>>levels, surprisingly enough.  But take a close look at
>>what you get with the V* - things like 4 wheel ABS,
>>sway bars, etc.  The GT is a much better car, IMO.
>
> a 90 hp difference isn't much?

    For most drivers, especially city drivers, it
isn't.  They only get to use 1/2 the power they have,
so a little less won't matter.
   Now, if you're racing in an open class, 3 hp is a
lot.  Drag racing in brackets won't matter, either.  In
that case, a V6/AOD would be an excellent drivetrain.

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.boB
1997 HD FXDWG - Turbocharged!
2001 Dodge Dakota QC 5.9/4x4/3.92
1966 Mustang Coupe - Daily Driver
1966 FFR Cobra - Ongoing project

japhar81 - 22 Apr 2005 13:56 GMT
If youre buying on the X plan (friends/family/neighbors), you wont be
getting a GT for either the 05 or 06 production years.

Ford sent that memo out to dealers a while ago.

>I had some questions i was wondering if you guys could answer for me.
>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> Any information is appreciated, thanks guys!
baywatch 904133@yahool.com - 22 Apr 2005 23:50 GMT
>If youre buying on the X plan (friends/family/neighbors), you wont be
>getting a GT for either the 05 or 06 production years.
>
>Ford sent that memo out to dealers a while ago.

lmfao
the sandnigger lives on credit

lmfao

u go girl

hurc ast
John C. - 23 Apr 2005 06:23 GMT
> If youre buying on the X plan (friends/family/neighbors), you wont be
> getting a GT for either the 05 or 06 production years.
>
> Ford sent that memo out to dealers a while ago.

The only person I know with an '05 GT, bought it on X-plan. Some dealers
just like to gouge more than others, don't take that memo BS as gospel.

--
John C.
'03 Cobra Convt.
Scotter - 22 Apr 2005 20:41 GMT
I've had three friends buy V6 Mustangs in the past five years and every one
of them wished they had bought a V8.
Not only is the power difference noticable (please don't just compare
horsepower numbers; also compare torque), but also the handling and all the
other extras you get stock with a GT.
Especially if you are mentioning "drag racing" you need to get a GT or wait
for the Cobra.
If you bought a V6 and tried to soup it up, you would spend much more money
in the end (price of car initially plus price of add-ons) to get *any*
horsepower/torque numbers than if you started out with a GT.

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Scotter
96 GT vert
3.73 gears and minor things

>I had some questions i was wondering if you guys could answer for me.
>
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>
> Any information is appreciated, thanks guys!
Bort - 23 Apr 2005 08:50 GMT
> I've had three friends buy V6 Mustangs in the past five years and every one
> of them wished they had bought a V8.
> Not only is the power difference noticable (please don't just compare

> horsepower numbers; also compare torque), but also the handling and all the
> other extras you get stock with a GT.

Sorry, i'm not exactly a big car person.  The friends i've talked to
about the car only mentioned horsepower numbers, not torque...

> Especially if you are mentioning "drag racing" you need to get a GT or wait
> for the Cobra.
> If you bought a V6 and tried to soup it up, you would spend much more money
> in the end (price of car initially plus price of add-ons) to get *any*
> horsepower/torque numbers than if you started out with a GT.

I'm not going to be drag racing, i was sort of saying, "would i only
need a V8 if i was *going to be* drag racing?".

Thanks for the info though.
baywatch 904133@yahool.com - 22 Apr 2005 23:49 GMT
>I had some questions i was wondering if you guys could answer for me.
>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
>Any information is appreciated, thanks guys!

lmfao
look at the ford dealership STAFF PARKING

how come the technicians  dont drive ford

at our dealership
2 out of 47 techs

get the hint
unless u like to send my kid to college

lmfao

hurc ast
fordmasterteck
canada red seal
trainfan1 - 23 Apr 2005 01:16 GMT
> lmfao
> look at the ford dealership STAFF PARKING
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> fordmasterteck
> canada red seal

Sooooo... what are the 2 Fords, what do you drive, and what are the
other 44?  We all want to drive the best... please back up your
statement(s)...

Rob
baywatch 904133@yahool.com - 23 Apr 2005 01:54 GMT
>> lmfao
>> look at the ford dealership STAFF PARKING
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>
>Rob
come un up to canada and see for yourself rob

ford= run away

lmfao
hurc ast
trainfan1 - 23 Apr 2005 21:12 GMT
>>Sooooo... what are the 2 Fords, what do you drive, and what are the
>>other 44?  We all want to drive the best... please back up your
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>
>  come un up to canada and see for yourself rob

> lmfao
> hurc ast

Which means you are making it all up.  You won't even say what you
drive, or own, what with all that "master knowledge" and a "red seal".

I dare you to post a picture of your vehicle(s) on the net.   You won't,
and can't do it.  Warman does it...

Rob
snmmach@mojo.com - 23 Apr 2005 21:52 GMT
>>>Sooooo... what are the 2 Fords, what do you drive, and what are the
>>>other 44?  We all want to drive the best... please back up your
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>Rob

lmfao
why would i make it up ?
just look behind any dealership staff parking
lmfao

why should i do something warman does ?
warman is a hack
post a picture of your car
who the f.ck cares

hurc ast
trainfan1 - 24 Apr 2005 00:26 GMT
>>>>Sooooo... what are the 2 Fords, what do you drive, and what are the
>>>>other 44?  We all want to drive the best... please back up your
>>>>statement(s)...

>>Rob

> why would i make it up ?

You can't prove it, so you have to make it up.

> just look behind any dealership staff parking

Chevrolet - mostly GMs
Buick - mostly GMs
Pontiac - mostly GMs
Cadillac/Hummer - mostly GMs
Saturn - mostly GMs
FLM - Mostly Fords, Lincolns, Mercs
Chrysler/Dodge - Mostly D-C (techs are driving trucks mostly here)
Hyundai - Everything but Hyundai (but changing more balanced to Hyundai)
Honda - Everything... Honda included

> why should i do something warman does ?

You don't, which is exactly my point.  He is respected, gainfully
employed, & tactful.  You are not not not.

> warman is a hack

It looks like anyone on the net will go out of their way to go to SL
Ford, & avoid your shop completely.

> post a picture of your car

'97 Taurus wagon.  '93 Accord.  Everyone knows what they look like... we
are just waiting to see what kind of wonder-car you are hip to...

Please tell us what those 45 of 47 mystery cars are in the Ford lot... I
mean really - what does it say about you & your co-workers when a Ford
"tech" can't repair & maintain such a simple thing as a Ford vehicle?

Come on Harry... tell us...

Rob
snmmach@mojo.com - 24 Apr 2005 00:56 GMT
>Chrysler/Dodge - Mostly D-C (techs are driving trucks mostly here)
>Hyundai - Everything but Hyundai (but changing more balanced to Hyundai)

lmfao
if your so smart
how come your cars are so old

lmfao
trainfan1 - 24 Apr 2005 02:10 GMT
>>Chrysler/Dodge - Mostly D-C (techs are driving trucks mostly here)
>>Hyundai - Everything but Hyundai (but changing more balanced to Hyundai)
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>
> lmfao

My acquisition cost to drive a Ford or Honda is well under $1000 / year.

I could buy any car... but I've never had a car payment and wish to keep
it that way.  A new car purchase is generally a waste of money, and I
put on 65,000 miles a year...  I buy reliable cars at around 85,000
miles & $3500 (Ford & Honda) and drive them to 210/220/230/240 + K
miles.  I rely on good techs, experience, & trusted newsgroup advice,
and avoid dealership repair shops(even though I make most of my
commissions at dealerships - ).

The 45 cars Harry, let's have'm... what are they...?

Sorry Harry...

Rob
snmmach@mojo.com - 24 Apr 2005 02:46 GMT
come on up and see5 21:10:32 -0400, trainfan1
<lmsearing@usdatanet.net> wrote:

>>>Chrysler/Dodge - Mostly D-C (techs are driving trucks mostly here)
>>>Hyundai - Everything but Hyundai (but changing more balanced to Hyundai)
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
>Rob

come on up and see
would love to have ya in calgary
we could go visit warman

hope to c ya

hurc ast
Bort - 23 Apr 2005 08:51 GMT
Thanks for the input, guys.

I went and test drove an automatic V6 today, i was impressed.  Dealer
said they wouldn't let me test drive a stick or a GT...i think they're
lying, but i'll go check out some other Ford dealers tomorrow and see.

I'm thinking i might go with a V6 stick...anyone here have one they're
satisfied/unsatisfied with?
Scotter - 23 Apr 2005 17:07 GMT
I'm glad you are going to try other dealers so you can at least feel the
difference of a GT before buying a V6.
Signature

Scotter

> Thanks for the input, guys.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I'm thinking i might go with a V6 stick...anyone here have one they're
> satisfied/unsatisfied with?
 
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