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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / April 2005New Shelby Mustang in Motor Trend
Is it me, or does 410 hp sound kind of low, coming from a 5.4 litre with a blower? It could be that they are downplaying the performance figures, but why do that today, the insurers already nail cars like this? My Mach-1 with it's smaller engine and no blower is probably and arguably rated at around 330-340hp, around 300 at the rear wheels so I find it hard to believe the Shelby is only 410. Apart from that, the car looks superb, but the $70-$80k U.S. price tag seems a little high. -Rich Rich, Horsepower numbers are like badges, they don't mean a thing. It's all about the performance, and that Shelby is going to perform! It will be able suck up your Mach 1 and spit it out. As for the price, it's listed at $39,999. Patrick '93 Cobra > Is it me, or does 410 hp sound kind of low, coming from a > 5.4 litre with a blower? It could be that they are downplaying [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > high. > -Rich > Rich, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Patrick > '93 Cobra I want to meet the man who picks one up for $39,999. dwight '93 non-Cobra I expect that 410 hp is an extremely underrated figure. A tuner will have that engine making 600-700 rwhp in the blink of an eye. If it is making 410 hp then Ford has the thing breathing through a soda straw. > Is it me, or does 410 hp sound kind of low, coming from a > 5.4 litre with a blower? It could be that they are downplaying [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > high. > -Rich I agree 410hp for a blown 5.4 seems a bit low. Look at the 2003/?04? Cobra which is a blown 4.6 making ~400 hp. You would think beefing it up to 5.4 would put it more around 470 hp... Is that 5.4 going to be 16 or 32 valve? Maybe it is just a 16-valve and that would explain it... ? On the optimistic side, maybe they are using very little boost and also tuning it conservative so that it is a very dependable and long-lasting engine. And maybe the torque numbers/curve is super impressive?  SignatureScotter 96 GT vert > Is it me, or does 410 hp sound kind of low, coming from a > 5.4 litre with a blower? It could be that they are downplaying [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > high. > -Rich > superb, but the $70-$80k U.S. price tag seems a little > high. If that's the price forget it. It's still carrying over quite a bit from the basic 6 cylinder car, and the competition in that price range doesn't force people to put up with that. $40K is pushing the acceptable limit for this car, regardless of how good the engine is. Autoweek's figures are a bit different... 2007 FORD SHELBY COBRA GT500 ON SALE: June 2006 BASE PRICE: $39,000 (est.) POWERTRAIN: 5.4-liter, 450-plus-hp, 450-plus-lb-ft supercharged V8; rwd, six-speed manual CURB WEIGHT: 3600 lbs (est.) 0 to 60 MPH: 4.5 seconds (est.) Final horsepower figures are not firm, but Thai-Tang hints it will be "well over 450 hp, closer to 500." Look for 450-plus lb-ft of torque too. http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=102065 > Is it me, or does 410 hp sound kind of low, coming from a > 5.4 litre with a blower? It could be that they are downplaying [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > high. > -Rich Do you think they will make it in a Vert???? | Autoweek's figures are a bit different... | [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] | > high. | > -Rich Let's hope so. I figure by the time they make the convertible I just might be in the market. > Do you think they will make it in a Vert???? > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >| > high. >| > -Rich Oh my gosh... $70-80k ...??? that bites I had really hoped to figure out a way to buy one. Not in THIS lifetime. Prolly not the next either... sh.t! Kate "RichA" <none@none.com> wrote in message (snip) Apart from that, the car looks | superb, but the $70-$80k U.S. price tag seems a little | high. | -Rich I'm holding the May edition of Motortrend in my hands, and it does NOT say that the Shelby GT500 will cost $80K. It says the following: "Best guess? 40-45 grand. It also says "I can tell you the GT 500 is going to have at least 450(horses)." -Andrew > Oh my gosh... $70-80k ...??? > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > | high. > | -Rich Thanks Andrew. That means I can still keep my fingers crossed. Kate | I'm holding the May edition of Motortrend in my hands, and it does NOT say | that the Shelby GT500 will cost $80K. It says the following: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] | > | high. | > | -Rich > Is it me, or does 410 hp sound kind of low, coming from a > 5.4 litre with a blower? It could be that they are downplaying [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > high. > -Rich When I went to the NY Auto Show the Ford rep there said the Shelby would cost around $39k. They are going to produce as many of these cars as the demand will be. Also expect 450 plus hp more towards 500hp as others mentioned in this thread. They wont have sequential tail lights cause the California Special is also returning and will debut with it. -Nick |
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