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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / April 2005

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351w convertion in 87 convert questions

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ledpeddle - 26 Apr 2005 17:33 GMT
Hi I am thinking on doing a four cylinder to a 351w in a 87 mustang convert.
I know this topic has been around. I would like the expertise of you people
in here on what to advise me for changes and suspension/ Thanks Dave.
trainfan1 - 26 Apr 2005 20:31 GMT
> Hi I am thinking on doing a four cylinder to a 351w in a 87 mustang convert.
> I know this topic has been around. I would like the expertise of you people
> in here on what to advise me for changes and suspension/ Thanks Dave.

It would cost you a lot less money & save a lot of valuable time to find
a 5.0 donor car for the project, as it will have all the parts you need.
 The 351W/5.8 is only about 20-25 lbs. more than the 5.0.

Rob
66 6F HCS - 27 Apr 2005 03:51 GMT
>  The 351W/5.8 is only about 20-25 lbs. more than the 5.0.
>
> Rob

351W/5.8 bare block weight- 168 lbs.
302/5.0 bare block weight- 129 lbs.
Difference- 39 lbs.

The only blocks that are really close in weight are the FRPP racing blocks where there is only 7 lbs difference between the two.

FRPP Sportsman 351W, 2-bolt main, racing block- 183lbs.
FRPP R302, 4-bolt main, racing block- 176 lbs.

But you could build a MONSTER stroker with one of these blocks and a huge overbore.
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Mark C. - 27 Apr 2005 08:16 GMT
 "trainfan1" <lmsearing@usdatanet.net> wrote

 >  The 351W/5.8 is only about 20-25 lbs. more than the 5.0.
 >
 > Rob

 351W/5.8 bare block weight- 168 lbs.
 302/5.0 bare block weight- 129 lbs.
 Difference- 39 lbs.

 The only blocks that are really close in weight are the FRPP racing blocks where there is only 7 lbs difference between the two.

 FRPP Sportsman 351W, 2-bolt main, racing block- 183lbs.
 FRPP R302, 4-bolt main, racing block- 176 lbs.

 But you could build a MONSTER stroker with one of these blocks and a huge overbore.
 --
 Scott W.
 .
I think he was referring to the weight of a complete engine. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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66 6F HCS - 27 Apr 2005 18:39 GMT
>I think he was referring to the weight of a complete engine. Correct me if
>I'm wrong.

The 351W would have an even wider weight gap on the 302. The intake manifold
is bigger (wider), hence heavier. Everything else would weigh the same since
the parts are all interchangeable (except distributor). However, just to
pick nits, a stock 351W uses longer rods, taller pistons, and a taller
distributor (which add even more weight). Moving the difference up closer to
50 lbs, not the suggested 25 lbs. Now if every pound counts, that's alot of
weight to try and cut somewhere else.
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'68 Ranchero 500 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
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Mark C. - 28 Apr 2005 07:24 GMT
I was thinking the 351W would be carburated as to the 5.0's fuel injected
smogged weight.

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"I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates who once said, "I drank
what?". " Val Kilmer in Real Genius.

>>I think he was referring to the weight of a complete engine. Correct me if
>>I'm wrong.
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> difference up closer to 50 lbs, not the suggested 25 lbs. Now if every
> pound counts, that's alot of weight to try and cut somewhere else.
66 6F HCS - 29 Apr 2005 03:39 GMT
>I was thinking the 351W would be carburated as to the 5.0's fuel injected
>smogged weight.

apples/oranges
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'66 HCS Mustang 289
'68 Ranchero 500 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
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Mark C. - 29 Apr 2005 07:17 GMT
Hmmm, aapples, and oorages.

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Mark
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"I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates who once said, "I drank
what?". " Val Kilmer in Real Genius.

>>I was thinking the 351W would be carburated as to the 5.0's fuel injected
>>smogged weight.
>
> apples/oranges

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