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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / May 2005Rear Gears Question!
First, thank you guys for being a big help. I got a 2000 GT conv. with the following extras: Cold air intake (fender) stock h-pipe w/o cats flowmaster mufflers 2 1/4 18" rims w/ 245/40 FR, 275/35 RR Planning to get rear gears, which one/brand would u recommend, 3.73 or 4.10, reasons, and MPG effects? any help would be appreciated thnx 3.73 if u plain on doin work to the motor but if not go with the 4.10 > First, thank you guys for being a big help. I got a 2000 GT conv. with the > following extras: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > 4.10, reasons, and MPG effects? any help would be appreciated > thnx forgot to mention it got eibach pro-kit lowering springs, if that would matter! If you are driving mainly in the city with city traffic then get 3.73 or 3.55 gears. With 4.10 gears you will hate 1st gear. You'll be at about 3,000 RPM before you reach 10 MPH Lol! Many guys who have 4.10 gears just start in 2nd from a complete stop. 1st revs way too fast. But...If you are planning to stomp on it everywhere you go then 4.10's are alot of fun :) Remember the higher the ratio, the higher the 1st gear rev at whatever speed you're driving at. Gumby '04GT > First, thank you guys for being a big help. I got a 2000 GT conv. with the > following extras: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > 4.10, reasons, and MPG effects? any help would be appreciated > thnx I agree with Gumby. Even with 3.73's I start in 2nd sometimes. And with the higher HP you have compared to me, I would go with 3.55 gears, especially if you plan on doing any more future power-related mods. UNLESS you are a total-drag-racer-boy... Also, do you go high speeds often? Like above 75? If so, you won't like anything above 3.55 much because your RPMs will be higher. No more cruising at 2K RPM.  SignatureScotter 96 GT vert 3.73 gears & filtercharger > If you are driving mainly in the city with city traffic then get 3.73 or > 3.55 gears. With 4.10 gears you will hate 1st gear. You'll be at about [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> 4.10, reasons, and MPG effects? any help would be appreciated >> thnx If the car is an automatic.. get the 4.10 gears. If the car is a manual.. get the 3.73 gears. You do not have a T-45 transmission like I do (and I don't like this T-45)... so the 3.73's won't have the exact same impact that it does on my car. Like our RPMs will be diff. due to diff. gearing in the transmission. -Mike -- Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean! http://www.MeltAwayCellulite.com/ > First, thank you guys for being a big help. I got a 2000 GT conv. with the > following extras: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > 4.10, reasons, and MPG effects? any help would be appreciated > thnx my car is manual and it has the TREMEC transmission. Then I'd say 3.73 gears. -Mike -- Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean! http://www.MeltAwayCellulite.com/ > my car is manual and it has the TREMEC transmission. I have a 98 Cobra. Of course it's a manual tranny. I put the 3.73 gears in mine, It isa nice mix of performance and economy. Kate | First, thank you guys for being a big help. I got a 2000 GT conv. with the | following extras: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] | 4.10, reasons, and MPG effects? any help would be appreciated | thnx I have and 04 GT conv with the Tremac 5 spd., Don't waster your time with 3.73's, At the advice of my local Mustang shop I have 4.10's and am glad I did. There is not much difference between the 2 gas mileage and RPM wise. But the extra bump off the line is great. The stock 327 gears at 70mph ran at about 1700 rpm, 373's will run around 2100 and my 410's run at 2300. > First, thank you guys for being a big help. I got a 2000 GT conv. with the > following extras: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > 4.10, reasons, and MPG effects? any help would be appreciated > thnx I run 2400RPM's @ 70mph w/ 3.73 gears w/ my T-45 ;(. -Mike -- Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean! http://www.MeltAwayCellulite.com/ > I have and 04 GT conv with the Tremac 5 spd., Don't waster your time with > 3.73's, At the advice of my local Mustang shop I have 4.10's and am glad I [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > 4.10, reasons, and MPG effects? any help would be appreciated > > thnx And I run at about 2600 rpm @ 70 mph with the 4:10's w/ an AODE. SignatureRichard '94 GT 'vert Under Drive Pulleys Transgo HD2 Reprogramming Kit High Stall Torque Converter 4:10 Gears Gripp Sub Frame Connectors (welded) FRPP Aluminum Drive shaft FRPP M5400-A Suspension Laser Red > I run 2400RPM's @ 70mph w/ 3.73 gears w/ my T-45 ;(. > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > > 4.10, reasons, and MPG effects? any help would be appreciated > > > thnx Guys, I just got more confused, i see ppl supporting the 3.73, while others going with the 4.10. I'm kinda crazy when driving and drive often over 75 mph. by the way, what's the stock in 2000 Gt, coz that might help me choose. thnx If you're kinda crazy when driving then get whatever you want, but stay the f.ck away from me. -Mike -- Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean! http://www.MeltAwayCellulite.com/ > Guys, I just got more confused, i see ppl supporting the 3.73, while others > going with the 4.10. I'm kinda crazy when driving and drive often over 75 > mph. by the way, what's the stock in 2000 Gt, coz that might help me > choose. thnx Kate<<<<< gets real close to Mike , just to make him nervous | If you're kinda crazy when driving then get whatever you want, but stay the | f.ck away from me. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] | > mph. by the way, what's the stock in 2000 Gt, coz that might help me | > choose. thnx Kate I was on the interstate last night & some fuckweed in a 94-98 V6 Mustang is zooming between traffic @ 75~85mph (posted speed limit 65mph--surrounding traffic going 70mph).. *almost* rear-ends me... THEN almost freaking hits the front of my car! He WOULD have had I not slammed on the damn brakes. Sorry, but if you're looking for a joy ride.. please take it away from my Elizabeth! (not YOU kate... just "you" in general). -Mike -- Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean! http://www.MeltAwayCellulite.com/ > Kate<<<<< gets real close to Mike , just to make him nervous > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > | > mph. by the way, what's the stock in 2000 Gt, coz that might help me > | > choose. thnx Now Mikie, you KNOW I wouldn't do that to you. Hey! When are we gonna have that BBQ ???? Signature"I hear what you're saying, and I don't think you're dumb, but that doesn't mean I like you." The Ransom of Red Chief | Kate I was on the interstate last night & some fuckweed in a 94-98 V6 | Mustang is zooming between traffic @ 75~85mph (posted speed limit [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] | > | > mph. by the way, what's the stock in 2000 Gt, coz that might help me | > | > choose. thnx Business is still going up! I'll hafta come up to Tennessee this summer! Elizabeth is being a PITA right now though (my car)... grr.. gonna work on her today to try to get this clutch cable situation fixed. -Mike -- Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean! http://www.MeltAwayCellulite.com/ > Now Mikie, you KNOW I wouldn't do that to you. > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > | > | > | > | "mustangGT_00" <ialmakrami@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:55fbfef68212af0618203404ca20c06d@localhost.talkaboutautos.com... > | > | > Guys, I just got more confused, i see ppl supporting the 3.73, while > | > | others [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > | > | > mph. by the way, what's the stock in 2000 Gt, coz that might help me > | > | > choose. thnx Should be 327's with alot of bog down in 5th with the Tremac. > Guys, I just got more confused, i see ppl supporting the 3.73, while > others > going with the 4.10. I'm kinda crazy when driving and drive often over 75 > mph. by the way, what's the stock in 2000 Gt, coz that might help me > choose. thnx Tremec dude. -Mike -- Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean! http://www.MeltAwayCellulite.com/ > Should be 327's with alot of bog down in 5th with the Tremac. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > mph. by the way, what's the stock in 2000 Gt, coz that might help me > > choose. thnx See, I like top end too, so I went with the 3.73s. Off the mark 4.10s may be more beneficial for 1/4 mile runs, but to ME I like to hit 100+, and I like to do it as often as I can get away with it. Again, your mileage may differ :) But this is the primary reason I chose the gears I have. Kate | Guys, I just got more confused, i see ppl supporting the 3.73, while others | going with the 4.10. I'm kinda crazy when driving and drive often over 75 | mph. by the way, what's the stock in 2000 Gt, coz that might help me | choose. thnx So do I. Nothing wrong with 4:10's and 100 mph. Hell, it gets you there quicker. RPM @100 mph with 4:10 is 3600 and about 3300 with the 3:73's. Probably can't even measure the fuel economy difference. SignatureRichard '94 GT 'vert Under Drive Pulleys Transgo HD2 Reprogramming Kit High Stall Torque Converter 4:10 Gears Gripp Sub Frame Connectors (welded) FRPP Aluminum Drive shaft FRPP M5400-A Suspension Laser Red > See, I like top end too, so I went with the 3.73s. > Off the mark 4.10s may be more beneficial for 1/4 mile runs, but to ME I [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > | mph. by the way, what's the stock in 2000 Gt, coz that might help me > | choose. thnx LOL ...........if you mean between 3.73 & 4.10 gears, I'm sure you can. At first I read that & was like....... from 3.27 to 4.10????? lol... *slaps self*. -Mike -- Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean! http://www.MeltAwayCellulite.com/ > So do I. Nothing wrong with 4:10's and 100 mph. Hell, it gets you there > quicker. RPM @100 mph with 4:10 is 3600 and about 3300 with the 3:73's. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > | mph. by the way, what's the stock in 2000 Gt, coz that might help me > > | choose. thnx Mine is pretty close to that too Mike... As our poster can see there are MANY different opinions on this subject. He will just have to choose what he thinks is best for his own application. I like my 3:73's, if I had it to do over again, I would do the same thing. They have enough torque to send me sideways in second gear, and that's enough for me. Kate |I run 2400RPM's @ 70mph w/ 3.73 gears w/ my T-45 ;(. Get 3.73s for a manual and 3.55 for an auto. SignatureMark -- "I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates who once said, "I drank what?". " Val Kilmer in Real Genius. > Mine is pretty close to that too Mike... > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > |I run 2400RPM's @ 70mph w/ 3.73 gears w/ my T-45 ;(. "Mark C." <mustango656@comcast.net> wrote in news:sL6dnWMiiOAj0-vfRVn- rg@comcast.com: > Get 3.73s for a manual and 3.55 for an auto. It's actually the reverse. The automatic needs the torque more than the manual. Agreed. But I'd still go 3.73's w/ manual.. and at least 3.73's w/ automatic.. depending on the gearing in the transmission. -Mike -- Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean! http://www.MeltAwayCellulite.com/ > "Mark C." <mustango656@comcast.net> wrote in news:sL6dnWMiiOAj0-vfRVn- > rg@comcast.com: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > It's actually the reverse. The automatic needs the torque more than the > manual. wish i went 4.10's instead of 3.73's in my 88 coupe AOD I think I'll go with 3.73 coz it's my daily drive, and I drive kinda close to Kate. The question is what's lim-slip and is it a required thing with 3.73 or how do i know if i need it or not! HELP When you get your 3.73 gears (good choice--they are a blast) make SURE you get an install kit purchased as well (anywhere from $80 - $120). It will include new bearings. As Kate said to me when I was installing my 3.73 gears... it's like sex w/out a condom.. ya don't know until it's too late :P (or something along those lines). -Mike -- Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean! http://www.MeltAwayCellulite.com/ > I think I'll go with 3.73 coz it's my daily drive, and I drive kinda close > to Kate. The question is what's lim-slip and is it a required thing with > 3.73 or how do i know if i need it or not! HELP Damn Mike, andf you LISTENED?? Your (2nd) ol momma os tearing up with pride right now *snif* Kate Signature"I hear what you're saying, and I don't think you're dumb, but that doesn't mean I like you." The Ransom of Red Chief | When you get your 3.73 gears (good choice--they are a blast) make SURE you | get an install kit purchased as well (anywhere from $80 - $120). It will [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] | > to Kate. The question is what's lim-slip and is it a required thing with | > 3.73 or how do i know if i need it or not! HELP LOL -- Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean! http://www.MeltAwayCellulite.com/ > Damn Mike, andf you LISTENED?? > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > | > to Kate. The question is what's lim-slip and is it a required thing with > | > 3.73 or how do i know if i need it or not! HELP >I think I'll go with 3.73 coz it's my daily drive, and I drive kinda close > to Kate. The question is what's lim-slip and is it a required thing with > 3.73 or how do i know if i need it or not! HELP An opened differential sends power to only one tire, the least effective tire, the one with the least resistance. A limited slip differential sends power to both axels/tires, much better traction. If you are going to screw around putting in a different "performance" gear ratio and not have limited slip (you may already have it) that would be silly. If you spend the money changing gear ratios, make sure you have limited slip too. >I think I'll go with 3.73 coz it's my daily drive, and I drive kinda close >to Kate. The question is what's lim-slip and is it a required thing with >3.73 or how do i know if i need it or not! HELP To see if you have a limited slip diff check the VC label on the door jamb. Find the axle code. Here's some possibilities: X5 3.27 conventional Z5 3.27 conventional VM 2.73 limited slip LE 3.27 limited slip ME 3.27 limited slip If none of those match check here: http://www.vibratesoftware.com/html_help/html/Ford/Ford_Mustang_1992-2005.htm ...you can also check the diff tag itself. It has the ratio and if it's limited slip. Ex: http://www.redpulsar.us/~coldfusion/axletag.jpg DP Pics of the cars: http://tinyurl.com/4fcsn Thanks guys for the info. that was helpful site. I checked my stang, and it's 3L27. So, i guess it has the lim-slip, rite! I'm going to get the 3.73 from ford racing and let'm install it tomorrow so i can race Kate, lol. You'll know it's a limited slip when you light up the tires on both sides. SignatureRichard '94 GT 'vert Under Drive Pulleys Transgo HD2 Reprogramming Kit High Stall Torque Converter 4:10 Gears Gripp Sub Frame Connectors (welded) FRPP Aluminum Drive shaft FRPP M5400-A Suspension Laser Red > Thanks guys for the info. that was helpful site. I checked my stang, and > it's 3L27. So, i guess it has the lim-slip, rite! I'm going to get the > 3.73 from ford racing and let'm install it tomorrow so i can race Kate, > lol. How far are you from West Tennessee?? C'mon over, you can take Shug around the block and see if you like em or not. Kate Signature"I hear what you're saying, and I don't think you're dumb, but that doesn't mean I like you." The Ransom of Red Chief |I think I'll go with 3.73 coz it's my daily drive, and I drive kinda close | to Kate. The question is what's lim-slip and is it a required thing with | 3.73 or how do i know if i need it or not! HELP It should be obvious by now, that not a one of know what the f.ck we are talking about and are in no way qualified to offer you ANY kind of advice on which gears you should buy. Opinions and belly buttons.. that's all I have to say about this subject. LMAO!!! Kate Signature"I hear what you're saying, and I don't think you're dumb, but that doesn't mean I like you." The Ransom of Red Chief LOLOL -- Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean! http://www.MeltAwayCellulite.com/ > It should be obvious by now, that not a one of know what the f.ck we are > talking about and are in no way qualified to offer you ANY kind of advice on [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > but that doesn't mean I like you." > The Ransom of Red Chief Gee, sideways can be fun ;>) SignatureRichard '94 GT 'vert Under Drive Pulleys Transgo HD2 Reprogramming Kit High Stall Torque Converter 4:10 Gears Gripp Sub Frame Connectors (welded) FRPP Aluminum Drive shaft FRPP M5400-A Suspension Laser Red > Mine is pretty close to that too Mike... > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > |I run 2400RPM's @ 70mph w/ 3.73 gears w/ my T-45 ;(. | Gee, sideways can be fun ;>) Oh Baby Oh! I like it too, for a little variety. Kate | > Mine is pretty close to that too Mike... | > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] | > | > |I run 2400RPM's @ 70mph w/ 3.73 gears w/ my T-45 ;(. > "Richard" <r-manders@shaw.ca> wrote > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Kate Please Kate, Stop teasing us. Us single desperate guys can't handle it. I'm typing one-handed now. AARGH!! SignatureScott W. '66 HCS Mustang 289 '68 Ranchero 500 302 '69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W ThunderSnake #57 http://home.comcast.net/~vanguard92/ > I'm typing one-handed now. AARGH!! Way, way, way TMI. Signature/ Garth - '83 GL V6stang Hatch <Former MW #7> \ | My V6stang: http://www.v6stang.com/v6stang | | RAMFM Merchandise: http://www.cafeshops.com/ramfm | \ Mail pgp@v6stang.com for secure reply information / >> I'm typing one-handed now. AARGH!! > > Way, way, way TMI. Heh, LMAO!! I thought that'd get somebody's attention. I was just hoping it would be Kate's. LOL ;P SignatureScott W. '66 HCS Mustang 289 '68 Ranchero 500 302 '69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W ThunderSnake #57 http://home.comcast.net/~vanguard92/ Yesterday I posted the below with an attachment. It didn't make it to he board. So if any one is interested let me know at taekwonmg at hotmail - com "Mr.~G." wrote in message news:... >I don't know if this group accepts attachments. The attached is an excel >sheet that will calculate RPM by gear by supplying two variables [Tire [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > MG |
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