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RichA - 19 May 2005 06:05 GMT
For all those on their cell phones or adjusting their hair,
it means "go."
-Rich
RSCamaro - 19 May 2005 11:06 GMT
>For all those on their cell phones or adjusting their hair,
>it means "go."
>-Rich

Maybe they just didn't like that particular shade of green.

                     ...Ron
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RichA - 19 May 2005 20:48 GMT
>>For all those on their cell phones or adjusting their hair,
>>it means "go."
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>
>                      ...Ron

I like the new LED-based traffic lights, they are much
more visible even in glaring sun.
-Rich
SVTKate - 19 May 2005 12:58 GMT
| For all those on their cell phones or adjusting their hair,
| it means "go."
| -Rich

I got pulled over a couple of weeks ago, because of this.

Some gal went ripping past us on the highway, prolly 20 over the speed
limit. We joked about her clearing the way and getting a ticket so we
wouldn't.
Then in town she got in in front of me at a stop light was putting on her
makeup.
When the light turned green, I revved my engine to wake her up, she didn't
respond.(Tom is right, my car is much too quiet)
I did it again and she finally decided to move. I then popped around her and
back into the lane before the next light. She then went into the right hand
lane beside me.
I looked in my rear view mirror, and there was an officer mirror pointing
for me to pull over.

First he ask me why I was driving like that, didn't REALLY want an answer or
I would have told him
He gave me hell, told me that if I wanted to drive like a kid to go di it in
my own yard not on the street.

I didn't get a ticket, but I was sure embarrased as hell. The beauty queen
got a giggle I'm sure but DAMN it pisses me off when people do that sh.t.

Kate
RichA - 19 May 2005 20:56 GMT
>| For all those on their cell phones or adjusting their hair,
>| it means "go."
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>
>Kate

At least he gave you the option.  A month ago I was in a deserted
parking lot, a parking lot for a former commuter train station.  All I
was doing was testing my Mach-1 to see at what point the rear wheels
break loose on a hard turn.  The cop who came over didn't like it
much, said something about pedestrians walking near me being in peril,
(there wasn't a soul within a quarter mile of this place).
But here's an interesting one;  A week ago I was waiting at a light,
and someone decides to nod off, or whatever and when the light turns
green, they forget to go.  I honked them once and finally, after what
seemed like forever, the guy decides to go and takes off at full
speed.  I left the starting line a little loud (not a tire burn, just
taking the car up past 5000 in 1st).  So, about 400 yards up, I pulled
into a gas station to check my tire pressure and a cop who was
directing traffic at a garden store walks up and tells me not to drive
that way.  I didn't burn rubber, I didn't exceed the speed limit.
His beef was with how fast I reached 40mph.  I was going to suggest
they make a law against acceleration, but I didn't.
-Rich
Spike - 19 May 2005 23:31 GMT
Not sure where you are, but here, quick acceleration is classified as
"Exhibition of Speed" even if you don't break traction. Same thing
applied when I lived in Tacoma, WA. If you break traction then you
have "Exhibition of Speed", "Racing" (even if the car next to you is
an olster in a 49 Ford straight 6), "Breaking Traction". "Reckless
Driving", and "Failure to Maintain Control of Vehicle". Generally,
they take the most serious offense, however, there is nothing in the
Vehicle Code which prohibits putting them all down... in which case
you'd be looking at losing your license. And the way the Code is
written, most are judgment calls by the cop, which means in a court,
contrary to popular belief, it would be you having to prove you
didn't.

>>| For all those on their cell phones or adjusting their hair,
>>| it means "go."
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>they make a law against acceleration, but I didn't.
>-Rich

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SVTKate - 20 May 2005 13:15 GMT
"RichA" <none@none.com> wrote|
| At least he gave you the option.  A month ago I was in a deserted
| parking lot, a parking lot for a former commuter train station.  All I
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| they make a law against acceleration, but I didn't.
| -Rich

In my case, my own front yard is about 5 acres of mowed grass....
Too bumpy to go raise hell in my car though, and it wold get the car all
dirty too.

As far as the parking lot.. I think that's just a mess.
You want to go someplace where it's safe, but the cop sees you as hell
raising.

Sometimes it would be nice if they could see things from the OTHER side of
the fence.

Like in my case, the gal ran up my a.s on the highway (I was doing 62 in a
55) until I got around the car on my right, and moved over.
Then she went like hell into town, and then dicked around at the light.
SHE was the problem, SHE was the reason I was pissed off and *I* got into
trouble.

BUT
I shouldn't have zipped up, over and back in front of her.
So, I am largely at fault for being stupid enough to get caught.
Spike - 20 May 2005 19:14 GMT
Yep... 'cause the cop couldn't see what when on before the point he
observed. It ain't fair, I know, but...  Believe it or not, most cops
remember the days when they were doing the same things, and when they
possibly got nailed by some cop. But, enforcement wasn't their job
back then. Now they understand more the cop they cussed for nailing
them.

It's a bit different the older the cop is. There's a lot more time and
distance, and experience, between when they did the donuts in the
parking lot, and when they stopped you.

And don't let anyone tell ya it doesn't matter what part of the
country you happen to be in. I know a place in GA where if you're from
the next county you better pray you don't get stopped. LOL  Cost my
best friend a tool box and a set of chrome reversed wheels to not get
hauled before the judge. They were laying on the side of the road when
we drove away.

>"RichA" <none@none.com> wrote|
>| At least he gave you the option.  A month ago I was in a deserted
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>I shouldn't have zipped up, over and back in front of her.
>So, I am largely at fault for being stupid enough to get caught.

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cprice@here.com - 21 May 2005 00:45 GMT
    Everything is legal until you get caught...

> "RichA" <none@none.com> wrote|
> | At least he gave you the option.  A month ago I was in a deserted
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> I shouldn't have zipped up, over and back in front of her.
> So, I am largely at fault for being stupid enough to get caught.
Spike - 22 May 2005 07:17 GMT
Not true. It may still be illegal cause it's in the Vehicle Code...
you just HAVEN'T been caught....YET....... LOL

>    Everything is legal until you get caught...
>
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>> I shouldn't have zipped up, over and back in front of her.
>> So, I am largely at fault for being stupid enough to get caught.

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Garth Almgren - 22 May 2005 02:55 GMT
> In my case, my own front yard is about 5 acres of mowed grass....

If you build it, they will come... I think it's time for you to start
construction of your own private road course, Kate. Just like in the '05
Mustang/Steve McQueen commercial. :)

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SVTKate - 22 May 2005 13:27 GMT
Uhhhh...let me think about it

NO

I do NOT want every dork in the area with a muffler-less POS running around
my house, thankyouverymuch LOL

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Braxus - 24 May 2005 02:27 GMT
I was going to suggest
> they make a law against acceleration, but I didn't.
> -Rich

By then the government will have put restrictor plates on the old engines
and on the new- electronic acceleration control. Might as well take the bus
at that point.

Brax
Michael Johnson, PE - 20 May 2005 14:43 GMT
> For all those on their cell phones or adjusting their hair,
> it means "go."
> -Rich

I'm more worried about the ones that don't know "red" means stop. ;)
SVTKate - 20 May 2005 17:15 GMT
| I'm more worried about the ones that don't know "red" means stop. ;)

But EVERYONE knows that yellow means Go Faster.. right?
Michael Johnson, PE - 24 May 2005 02:10 GMT
> | I'm more worried about the ones that don't know "red" means stop. ;)
>
> But EVERYONE knows that yellow means Go Faster.. right?

You need to stop thinking like that now that you're living in the
easy-going Midwest.  You should never pull out of an intersection where
a car is any closer than 1/4 mile from the intersection.  That's the
rules of engagement in Indiana where I grew up.  I'm a holy terror on
the streets when I go back home now after living near Washington, DC for
the last 20 years.
SVTKate - 24 May 2005 13:06 GMT
| > | I'm more worried about the ones that don't know "red" means stop. ;)
| >
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| the streets when I go back home now after living near Washington, DC for
| the last 20 years.

Umm...
this is the Mid South
and let me tell you, they are the frigging WORST

I am beginning to hate it here.
Love my place, so much other stuff to adapt to.
I don't know how people do it that move from the US to another country!
I'm having culture shock right here!
Michael Johnson, PE - 24 May 2005 15:22 GMT
> | > | I'm more worried about the ones that don't know "red" means stop. ;)
> | >
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> I don't know how people do it that move from the US to another country!
> I'm having culture shock right here!

I had similar problems when I moved to the DC area right out of college.
 I spent the first 22 years of my life in a county that had less than
20,000 people living in it.  After 4-5 years it become home to me.  I
don't know if I could take the slower pace of life there now.  I do
think it would be harder for me to move back there and adjust now than
is was to move here 20 years ago.
SVTKate - 25 May 2005 12:40 GMT
| I had similar problems when I moved to the DC area right out of college.
|  I spent the first 22 years of my life in a county that had less than
| 20,000 people living in it.  After 4-5 years it become home to me.  I
| don't know if I could take the slower pace of life there now.  I do
| think it would be harder for me to move back there and adjust now than
| is was to move here 20 years ago.

It's not the slower pace.
It's so many other things.
I could complain for a page and a half though, and it wouldn't change a
thing.

Hopefully, I will get used to it. If not in a year or so, I'm putting a for
sale sign in the front yard.

Kate
Michael Johnson, PE - 25 May 2005 16:05 GMT
> | I had similar problems when I moved to the DC area right out of college.
> |  I spent the first 22 years of my life in a county that had less than
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> Hopefully, I will get used to it. If not in a year or so, I'm putting a for
> sale sign in the front yard.

If I were to retire now I would have to move to the Carolinas to live.
Every time I have been there I just fall in love with that area all over
again.  The weather is nice, people are friendly, mountains are close,
beach is close, lots of water for fishing/boating etc.
Spike - 20 May 2005 19:15 GMT
I'd be MORE worried about the ones that are armed! : )

>> For all those on their cell phones or adjusting their hair,
>> it means "go."
>> -Rich
>
>I'm more worried about the ones that don't know "red" means stop. ;)

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Michael Johnson, PE - 24 May 2005 02:11 GMT
Heck, their car is their most lethal weapon. :)

> I'd be MORE worried about the ones that are armed! : )
>
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Braxus - 24 May 2005 02:31 GMT
>>I'm more worried about the ones that don't know "red" means stop. ;)

Reminds me of a time we came to a stop light. Car full of guys pulls out
behind us. They get out and start knocking on our windows. We ran the red at
that point. We had no clue who they were either.
SVTKate - 24 May 2005 13:10 GMT
| >>I'm more worried about the ones that don't know "red" means stop. ;)
|
| Reminds me of a time we came to a stop light. Car full of guys pulls out
| behind us. They get out and start knocking on our windows. We ran the red at
| that point. We had no clue who they were either.

That is REALLY weird.
REALLY! :::shudder:::

Maybe it was a variation of a chinese quick stop...??

I would have ran the red light too!
Michael Johnson, PE - 24 May 2005 15:34 GMT
> | >>I'm more worried about the ones that don't know "red" means stop. ;)
> |
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>
> I would have ran the red light too!

One night about 15 years ago I was showing a friend of mine from Indiana
the wilder side of DC in my Triumph Spitfire.  We intended to stop at a
Safeway on 14th street to get a disposable camera and I notice a gang of
about 10-12 guys waving me over to them in the parking lot.  I decided
to abort the camera purchase mission and keep going.  I then noticed
they started running toward the car and I was caught behind 3 cars at a
red light!  It's amazing how fast your mind can think in these types of
situations.  I decided to run the car up on the sidewalk and get the
hell out of there!  I went a full block before I could get back on the
road.  The gang actually got within about 20' from the car before I was
able to pull away from them.
SVTKate - 25 May 2005 12:42 GMT
::snip::

The gang actually got within about 20' from the car before I was
| able to pull away from them.

I would have had to change my drawers after that.

Why do you think they were doing that? Seriously.
Sometimes I am pretty naive.

Kate
Michael Johnson, PE - 25 May 2005 15:57 GMT
> ::snip::
>
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> Why do you think they were doing that? Seriously.
> Sometimes I am pretty naive.

At that time 14th Street was a major haven for drug dealers, hookers and
pimps and about any other degenerate living in DC.  I think they saw two
cornbread fed Hoosiers and planned to either sell us drugs or get any
money we had by any means necessary.  I had made direct eye contact with
several of them and then proceeded to ignore them.  I think that is what
got the whole mess started.  Also, my friend and I were probably the
only whites in the area which really made us stick out like a sore
thumb.  Especially, driving a Triumph Spitfire with the top down.  We
had "out of town" written all over us which probably translated to "easy
mark" to that gang.  Initially though, I think they assumed we were
trying to score drugs.

DC is a rather strange place.  There are parts of it that are as bad as
it can get for any major city.  However, if you stay around the
monuments, White House, Capital etc. you could walk around at any time
of the day or night and feel about as safe as if you're walking around
your own back yard.  The transition from one area to the next can happen
in the distance of a couple of blocks.
Spike - 25 May 2005 18:34 GMT
In the 60s, DC had, within blocks of the Capital and other touristy
places, the worst crime ridden slums in the nation. Well, actually,
they probably were not the worst, but the contrast between the tourist
safe parts of the city and the slummy parts was so great that it made
them seem worse. It is strange that the city which is supposed the
shining example of democracy should allow anything to tarnish it's
image. That was 40 years ago. I had thought there was a move to clean
it up but perhaps Marion Berry needed sources closer to home and
brought 'em back.

>> ::snip::
>>
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>your own back yard.  The transition from one area to the next can happen
>in the distance of a couple of blocks.

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Michael Johnson, PE - 26 May 2005 04:19 GMT
In the last 5-10 years DC has made some significant gains.  They have
shaken off the effects of Marion Barry for the most part and are
financially much better off.  Rumor has it though that old Marion will
run in the next Mayor's election and I bet he would win in a landslide.
 He already sits on the City Council and he won that seat with close to
90% of the votes in his ward.

> In the 60s, DC had, within blocks of the Capital and other touristy
> places, the worst crime ridden slums in the nation. Well, actually,
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Spike - 26 May 2005 20:16 GMT
Why he gets elected is fairly obvious based on the population makeup
of DC. Similar conditions exist in Cincinnati, OH.

Even with a cleanup program, and I am glad for that, my guess is it
has not changed all that much as to who lives where. The ones with the
bucks (no pun intended) live in Maryland, Delaware, or the "special"
DC areas.

Apparently, during the cleanup, they missed all those Senators and
Congressmen, 'cause I see they are still there. : ) LOL

>In the last 5-10 years DC has made some significant gains.  They have
>shaken off the effects of Marion Barry for the most part and are
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Michael Johnson, PE - 27 May 2005 03:47 GMT
The cleanup is basically driven by escalating property values.  Housing
costs in the DC area is sky rocketing.  The rehabilitation craze is in
full swing and if you look at a map of DC it's spreading like bacteria
in a petri dish from the Capitol Building.  In the next 10 years the DC
metropolitan area will have a housing shortage of 200,000 units.  This
will further push the rehab market into the low income areas.

DC has more than its share of high rollers.  A quick drive through
Northwest DC will confirm it.  The rehab business it mostly moving to
the south and east of the Capitol.

We never forget here that it is those Senators and Congressmen that are
the engine that fuels much of the growth in this area.  Like the saying
goes, "You have to take the good with the bad".

> Why he gets elected is fairly obvious based on the population makeup
> of DC. Similar conditions exist in Cincinnati, OH.
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Spike - 27 May 2005 20:22 GMT
Read Tom Clancy's book... "The Sum of All Fears"?

In the 60s it was pretty much the same as far as property values
go.... only a lot lower prices... LOL

Same in lots of places. People commute from my hometown to the bay
area because they can't afford to even live in places like Oakland and
Vallejo. So, it's a 49 mile drive each way. And where it was all the
rage if we had a bank robbery one year, now they get about 3 a month.
But, my folks bought a one car garage cracker box there in 1959 for
$13,000 INCLUDING the 30 year financing, and they just got an offer
for a quarter mill. Good with the bad. Bad with the good.

>The cleanup is basically driven by escalating property values.  Housing
>costs in the DC area is sky rocketing.  The rehabilitation craze is in
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