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C GREEN - 26 May 2005 22:32 GMT I have 31000 miles on the original equipment Goodyears on my '02 convertible. They look OK to me. When should I really think of replacing them? What kind of tires would you advise, other than more of the same?
ivamoreacbf45@ yahoo.com - 26 May 2005 23:21 GMT >I have 31000 miles on the original equipment Goodyears on my '02 >convertible. They look OK to me. When should I really think of replacing >them? What kind of tires would you advise, other than more of the same? measure the depth FOCKTARD
RSCamaro - 27 May 2005 00:04 GMT >I have 31000 miles on the original equipment Goodyears on my '02 >convertible. They look OK to me. When should I really think of replacing >them? What kind of tires would you advise, other than more of the same? IMO, you should have gotten rid of them back in 02' or when you bought the car. I could never keep them from spinning and one of the times I spun them I pretty much wrecked 2 wheels. I run FUZION ZRI tires now.
I did a search for my own knowledge and really didn't find anything of value about tire life other than a RV site that said replace the tires at 5 year intervals. That's RV tires though that won't get as much use as your car. One interesting thing I did find was that using nitrogen definately extends the life of the tire. Other benefits are less expansion due to heat, less loss because nitrogen doesn't pass through the compound as easily as air, and since it's dry and an inert gas there are no chemical reactions going on inside the tire.
Do a search yourself on tire life and deterioration. Plenty of stuff to look through.
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Spike - 27 May 2005 00:14 GMT Aside from measuring the tread depth and making sure it reaches the top of Lincoln's head on a penny (via the shortest route), look for the wear bars....
Must not be Z rated. Mine lasted just over 10K and about 7 months. I switched to BF Goodrich T/As with that car... and dropped the rating down to VRs. I'm sticking with the BF Goodrich T/A gForce Z rated KDWS for my 65FB... for now.
>I have 31000 miles on the original equipment Goodyears on my '02 >convertible. They look OK to me. When should I really think of replacing >them? What kind of tires would you advise, other than more of the same? Hey! Spikey Likes IT! 1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8" w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16
.boB - 27 May 2005 01:13 GMT > I have 31000 miles on the original equipment Goodyears on my '02 > convertible. They look OK to me. When should I really think of replacing > them? What kind of tires would you advise, other than more of the same? Tire should be replaced when the tread depth is to the wear bars, or 5 years after manufacture, whichever comes first. Over time the rubber gets hard, and you lose traction. As to what kind of replacement, that's a tough call. Nothing affects the performance of your car more than tires. And it's critical that you chose the tire that matches your driving style, terrain, and weather conditions. Without that information, any recommendation is bound to be wrong. Go to the tire rack web site. They have a decision making tree to help you select some tires to chose from.
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66 6F HCS - 27 May 2005 03:34 GMT > Tire should be replaced when the tread depth is to the wear bars, or 5 > years after manufacture, whichever comes first. Damn. I guess I oughta be thinking of replacing my 11 y/o Dunlop's on my Ranchero. They're like new. Came off a set of wheels that sat in a garage for 10 years.
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Spike - 27 May 2005 05:11 GMT I've never had a set of any brand I have used last 5 years... and the higher the speed rating the less miles. Kinda like women's clothes... the less material, the more they cost.
>> Tire should be replaced when the tread depth is to the wear bars, or 5 >> years after manufacture, whichever comes first. > >Damn. I guess I oughta be thinking of replacing my 11 y/o Dunlop's on my >Ranchero. They're like new. Came off a set of wheels that sat in a garage >for 10 years. Hey! Spikey Likes IT! 1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8" w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16
Garth Almgren - 27 May 2005 06:11 GMT >> Tire should be replaced when the tread depth is to the wear bars, or 5 >>years after manufacture, whichever comes first. > > Damn. I guess I oughta be thinking of replacing my 11 y/o Dunlop's on my > Ranchero. They're like new. Came off a set of wheels that sat in a garage > for 10 years. It's a hit and miss kinda deal that varies with each individual tire, but at 11 years old it would probably be a good idea.
(Heh - I'm one to talk; I've had occasion to use the original spare for my Mustang a handful of times...)
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NoOption5L@aol.com - 28 May 2005 04:11 GMT > > Tire should be replaced when the tread depth is to the wear bars, or 5 > > years after manufacture, whichever comes first.
> Damn. I guess I oughta be thinking of replacing my 11 y/o Dunlop's on my > Ranchero. They're like new. Came off a set of wheels that sat in a garage > for 10 years. Scott W,
I'd chuck 'em. I just read in the news this week that in 2006, tire manufactures will be required to remind consumers that tires need to be replaced after 6 years due to safety concerns. I think they also said they'll be required to label all new tires with manufacture date/recommended replacement date.
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Spike - 28 May 2005 04:41 GMT Ahhh, one more stupid little tag which will result in higher prices.
>> > Tire should be replaced when the tread depth is to the wear bars, or 5 >> > years after manufacture, whichever comes first. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >Patrick >'93 Cobra Hey! Spikey Likes IT! 1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8" w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16
ZombyWoof - 28 May 2005 16:50 GMT >Ahhh, one more stupid little tag which will result in higher prices. While unfortunately I think you are right, there are an awful lot of people who simply do not know. I wish they would change the licensing exam to include some basic automotive care questions and even practical exercises like checking your oil, changing a tire, and so forth. An awful lot of people out there on the road driving pieces of crap that break down, cause traffic delays, and make me late for work. Driving a piece of crap that breaks down in the middle of the road should be a ticketable offense.
>>> > Tire should be replaced when the tread depth is to the wear bars, or 5 >>> > years after manufacture, whichever comes first. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8" >w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16
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GEB - 28 May 2005 17:08 GMT "ZombyWoof" wrote in a message:
> While unfortunately I think you are right, there are an awful lot of > people who simply do not know. I wish they would change the licensing [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Driving a piece of crap that breaks down in the middle of the road > should be a ticketable offense. More than likely, that's all they can afford to drive. I don't know of too many people that drive fairly new cars while working for basically minimum wage. We can thank our GOV'T & NAFTA for that! I'd be willing to bet that if you were working for minimum wage, you wouldn't be driving your stang! You also need to remember that some people are not mechanically inclined and depend on others to maintain their vehicles, and that costs money that they just might not have at the time. Next time you see someone broke down along the side of the road, just be thankful its not you, cause you don't have to work for minimum wage.
Gary
Spike - 28 May 2005 20:44 GMT I agree in part.
However, my safety, and the safety of my family always had to be considered. Would I drive around with no brakes, or some other hazard? No. I would find some way to make it safe, even on minimum wage. That's what got me started on learning how to do my at least own work on the cars I've owned. Yeah, I used cheap parts from chain stores, but things like the brakes worked. And there were times when I had to do some balancing of funds to reach that goal. It came down to a case of priorities. For some people, I think their priorities are mixed up. The ski lift tickets are more important than a safe car to get them there. Ski lift tickets? For minimum wagers? Yep. The girl next door, dumps her kid off about every weekend, and off she goes with the skis on the top rack. And in the summer, she has a surfboard that goes up there. She works at a fast food drive through window.
>"ZombyWoof" wrote in a message: >> While unfortunately I think you are right, there are an awful lot of [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >Gary Hey! Spikey Likes IT! 1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8" w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16
ZombyWoof - 29 May 2005 23:45 GMT >"ZombyWoof" wrote in a message: >> While unfortunately I think you are right, there are an awful lot of [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >Gary A car does not have to be fairly new, or anywhere near to be kept in safe & useable conditions for use on the public road system. The fact that people are working for basically minimum wage has nothing to do with it, our government, nor NAFTA. It has to do with the people themselves and their intrinsic worth in the work market place, but that is a completely different thread altogether.
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Spike - 28 May 2005 20:30 GMT unfortunately, many people are not mechanically inclined. Of course, it would be nice to see high schools turn out graduates who could at least balance their own checkbooks, boil water, and other basic life situations.
The "average" driver puts on 10-15K miles each year. The average tire is rated at what? 45K? 60K? Guess I could look in the ads. Anyway, at 10K per year, the tires should be ready for replacement in 4-6 years. If all tires now have wear bars (and if everyone knew the Lincoln penny measuring system) it would seem that such a warning isn't necessary.
I do agree that people should perform routine checks. As a cop, we passed one car on to the next shift, or sometimes a car got to sit idle every other shift (depended on the budget). Every time we accepted a vehicle, we had a checklist to go through for fluid levels, tire pressure, hoses, belts, cleanliness, etc, which had to be dated and initialed off if accepted. I have a similar checklist for my cars which follows recommended periodic checks.
With the cars which talk to you, maybe the checklist should be part of the program.... "you've opened and closed the door 1,450 times, it is time to lube the door hinges... this message will repeat until you have lubed the door hinges"
"That was you 150th fast food fart, change the air freshener NOW!"
>>Ahhh, one more stupid little tag which will result in higher prices. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >>>> > Tire should be replaced when the tread depth is to the wear bars, or 5 Hey! Spikey Likes IT! 1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8" w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16
ZombyWoof - 29 May 2005 23:49 GMT >unfortunately, many people are not mechanically inclined. Of course, >it would be nice to see high schools turn out graduates who could at >least balance their own checkbooks, boil water, and other basic life >situations. Wouldn't it? Life skills 101.
>The "average" driver puts on 10-15K miles each year. The average tire >is rated at what? 45K? 60K? Guess I could look in the ads. Anyway, at >10K per year, the tires should be ready for replacement in 4-6 years. >If all tires now have wear bars (and if everyone knew the Lincoln >penny measuring system) it would seem that such a warning isn't >necessary. There are some other issues a foot other then that. Ever seen a set of tires with more then enough tread life left and dry rot cracks all through the sidewalls?
>I do agree that people should perform routine checks. As a cop, we >passed one car on to the next shift, or sometimes a car got to sit [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >and initialed off if accepted. I have a similar checklist for my cars >which follows recommended periodic checks. If a cop can do it, I would suspect a minimum wager could as well :)
>With the cars which talk to you, maybe the checklist should be part of >the program.... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > "That was you 150th fast food fart, change the air freshener NOW!" Unless of course you enjoy the odor of fast food farts.
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Spike - 30 May 2005 03:59 GMT >There are some other issues a foot other then that. Ever seen a set >of tires with more then enough tread life left and dry rot cracks all >through the sidewalls? Actually no. Not on a motor vehicle. I have seen on trailers, boats, etc.
>>I do agree that people should perform routine checks. As a cop, we >>passed one car on to the next shift, or sometimes a car got to sit [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >If a cop can do it, I would suspect a minimum wager could as well :) I can't really say my pay was super bad. In fact, it was pretty good, depending on where I worked. But it can still come down to do I pay the rent, or do I fix the leaky brakes.
>>With the cars which talk to you, maybe the checklist should be part of >>the program.... [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >Unless of course you enjoy the odor of fast food farts. I've heard of those kind of people.... They're the ones who generally make the biggest stink when you pull them over. : )
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