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C GREEN - 26 May 2005 22:32 GMT
I have 31000 miles on the original equipment Goodyears on my '02
convertible.  They look OK to me.  When should I really think of replacing
them?  What kind of tires would you advise, other than more of the same?
ivamoreacbf45@ yahoo.com - 26 May 2005 23:21 GMT
>I have 31000 miles on the original equipment Goodyears on my '02
>convertible.  They look OK to me.  When should I really think of replacing
>them?  What kind of tires would you advise, other than more of the same?

measure the depth
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RSCamaro - 27 May 2005 00:04 GMT
>I have 31000 miles on the original equipment Goodyears on my '02
>convertible.  They look OK to me.  When should I really think of replacing
>them?  What kind of tires would you advise, other than more of the same?

IMO, you should have gotten rid of them back in 02' or when you bought
the car.  I could never keep them from spinning and one of the times I
spun them I pretty much wrecked 2 wheels.  I run FUZION ZRI tires now.

I did a search for my own knowledge and really didn't find anything of
value about tire life other than a RV site that said replace the tires
at 5 year intervals.  That's RV tires though that won't get as much
use as your car.  One interesting thing I did find was that using
nitrogen definately extends the life of the tire.  Other benefits are
less expansion due to heat, less loss because nitrogen doesn't pass
through the compound as easily as air, and since it's dry and an inert
gas there are no chemical reactions going on inside the tire.  

Do a search yourself on tire life and deterioration.  Plenty of stuff
to look through.

                                ...Ron
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Spike - 27 May 2005 00:14 GMT
Aside from measuring the tread depth and making sure it reaches the
top of Lincoln's head on a penny (via the shortest route), look for
the wear bars....

Must not be Z rated. Mine lasted just over 10K and about 7 months. I
switched to BF Goodrich T/As with that car... and dropped the rating
down to VRs. I'm sticking with the BF Goodrich T/A gForce Z rated KDWS
for my 65FB... for now.

>I have 31000 miles on the original equipment Goodyears on my '02
>convertible.  They look OK to me.  When should I really think of replacing
>them?  What kind of tires would you advise, other than more of the same?

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.boB - 27 May 2005 01:13 GMT
> I have 31000 miles on the original equipment Goodyears on my '02
> convertible.  They look OK to me.  When should I really think of replacing
> them?  What kind of tires would you advise, other than more of the same?

    Tire should be replaced when the tread depth is to
the wear bars, or 5 years after manufacture, whichever
comes first.  Over time the rubber gets hard, and you
lose traction.
    As to what kind of replacement, that's a tough
call.  Nothing affects the performance of your car more
than tires.  And it's critical that you chose the tire
that matches your driving style, terrain, and weather
conditions.  Without that information, any
recommendation is bound to be wrong.
    Go to the tire rack web site.  They have a
decision making tree to help you select some tires to
chose from.

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66 6F HCS - 27 May 2005 03:34 GMT
>     Tire should be replaced when the tread depth is to the wear bars, or 5
> years after manufacture, whichever comes first.

Damn. I guess I oughta be thinking of replacing my 11 y/o Dunlop's on my
Ranchero. They're like new. Came off a set of wheels that sat in a garage
for 10 years.
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Spike - 27 May 2005 05:11 GMT
I've never had a set of any brand I have used  last 5 years... and the
higher the speed rating the less miles. Kinda like women's clothes...
the less material, the more they cost.

>>     Tire should be replaced when the tread depth is to the wear bars, or 5
>> years after manufacture, whichever comes first.
>
>Damn. I guess I oughta be thinking of replacing my 11 y/o Dunlop's on my
>Ranchero. They're like new. Came off a set of wheels that sat in a garage
>for 10 years.

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Garth Almgren - 27 May 2005 06:11 GMT
>>    Tire should be replaced when the tread depth is to the wear bars, or 5
>>years after manufacture, whichever comes first.
>
> Damn. I guess I oughta be thinking of replacing my 11 y/o Dunlop's on my
> Ranchero. They're like new. Came off a set of wheels that sat in a garage
> for 10 years.

It's a hit and miss kinda deal that varies with each individual tire,
but at 11 years old it would probably be a good idea.

(Heh - I'm one to talk; I've had occasion to use the original spare for
my Mustang a handful of times...)

From a quick Google search on the topic:
http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0505/20/A01-188098.htm

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NoOption5L@aol.com - 28 May 2005 04:11 GMT
> >     Tire should be replaced when the tread depth is to the wear bars, or 5
> > years after manufacture, whichever comes first.

> Damn. I guess I oughta be thinking of replacing my 11 y/o Dunlop's on my
> Ranchero. They're like new. Came off a set of wheels that sat in a garage
> for 10 years.

Scott W,

I'd chuck 'em.  I just read in the news this week that in 2006, tire
manufactures will be required to remind consumers that tires need to be
replaced after 6 years due to safety concerns.  I think they also said
they'll be required to label all new tires with manufacture
date/recommended replacement date.  

Patrick
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Spike - 28 May 2005 04:41 GMT
Ahhh, one more stupid little tag which will result in higher prices.

>> >     Tire should be replaced when the tread depth is to the wear bars, or 5
>> > years after manufacture, whichever comes first.
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>Patrick
>'93 Cobra

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ZombyWoof - 28 May 2005 16:50 GMT
>Ahhh, one more stupid little tag which will result in higher prices.

While unfortunately I think you are right, there are an awful lot of
people who simply do not know.  I wish they would change the licensing
exam to include some basic automotive care questions and even
practical exercises like checking your oil, changing a tire, and so
forth.  An awful lot of people out there on the road driving pieces of
crap that break down, cause traffic delays, and make me late for work.
Driving a piece of crap that breaks down in the middle of the road
should be a ticketable offense.

>>> >     Tire should be replaced when the tread depth is to the wear bars, or 5
>>> > years after manufacture, whichever comes first.
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GEB - 28 May 2005 17:08 GMT
"ZombyWoof" wrote in a message:
> While unfortunately I think you are right, there are an awful lot of
> people who simply do not know.  I wish they would change the licensing
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Driving a piece of crap that breaks down in the middle of the road
> should be a ticketable offense.

More than likely, that's all they can afford to drive. I don't know of too
many people that drive fairly new cars while working for basically minimum
wage. We can thank our GOV'T & NAFTA for that!  I'd be willing to bet that
if you were working for minimum wage, you wouldn't be driving your stang!
You also need to remember that some people are not mechanically inclined and
depend on others to maintain their vehicles, and that costs money that they
just might not have at the time. Next time you see someone broke down along
the side of the road, just be thankful its not you, cause you don't have to
work for minimum wage.

Gary
Spike - 28 May 2005 20:44 GMT
I agree in part.

However, my safety, and the safety of my family always had to be
considered. Would I drive around with no brakes, or some other hazard?
No. I would find some way to make it safe, even on minimum wage.
That's what got me started on learning how to do my at least own work
on the cars I've owned. Yeah, I used cheap parts from chain stores,
but things like the brakes worked. And there were times when I had to
do some balancing of funds to reach that goal. It came down to a case
of priorities. For some people, I think their priorities are mixed up.
The ski lift tickets are more important than a safe car to get them
there. Ski lift tickets? For minimum wagers? Yep. The girl next door,
dumps her kid off about every weekend, and off she goes with the skis
on the top rack. And in the summer, she has a surfboard that goes up
there. She works at a fast food drive through window.

>"ZombyWoof" wrote in a message:
>> While unfortunately I think you are right, there are an awful lot of
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>
>Gary

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ZombyWoof - 29 May 2005 23:45 GMT
>"ZombyWoof" wrote in a message:
>> While unfortunately I think you are right, there are an awful lot of
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
>Gary

A car does not have to be fairly new, or anywhere near to be kept in
safe & useable conditions for use on the public road system.  The fact
that people are working for basically minimum wage has nothing to do
with it, our government, nor NAFTA.  It has to do with the people
themselves and their intrinsic worth in the work market place, but
that is a completely different thread altogether.
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Spike - 28 May 2005 20:30 GMT
unfortunately, many people are not mechanically inclined. Of course,
it would be nice to see high schools turn out graduates who could at
least balance their own checkbooks, boil water, and other basic life
situations.

The "average" driver puts on 10-15K miles each year. The average tire
is rated at what? 45K? 60K? Guess I could look in the ads. Anyway, at
10K per year, the tires should be ready for replacement in 4-6 years.
If all tires now have wear bars (and if everyone knew the Lincoln
penny measuring system) it would seem that such a warning isn't
necessary.

I do agree that people should perform routine checks. As a cop, we
passed one car on to the next shift, or sometimes a car got to sit
idle every other shift (depended on the budget). Every time we
accepted a vehicle, we had a checklist to go through for fluid levels,
tire pressure, hoses, belts, cleanliness, etc, which had to be dated
and initialed off if accepted. I have a similar checklist for my cars
which follows recommended periodic checks.

With the cars which talk to you, maybe the checklist should be part of
the program....
 "you've opened and closed the door 1,450 times, it is time to lube
the door hinges... this message will repeat until you have lubed the
door hinges"

 "That was you 150th fast food fart, change the air freshener NOW!"



>>Ahhh, one more stupid little tag which will result in higher prices.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>>
>>>> >     Tire should be replaced when the tread depth is to the wear bars, or 5

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ZombyWoof - 29 May 2005 23:49 GMT
>unfortunately, many people are not mechanically inclined. Of course,
>it would be nice to see high schools turn out graduates who could at
>least balance their own checkbooks, boil water, and other basic life
>situations.

Wouldn't it?  Life skills 101.

>The "average" driver puts on 10-15K miles each year. The average tire
>is rated at what? 45K? 60K? Guess I could look in the ads. Anyway, at
>10K per year, the tires should be ready for replacement in 4-6 years.
>If all tires now have wear bars (and if everyone knew the Lincoln
>penny measuring system) it would seem that such a warning isn't
>necessary.

There are some other issues a foot other then that.  Ever seen a set
of tires with more then enough tread life left and dry rot cracks all
through the sidewalls?

>I do agree that people should perform routine checks. As a cop, we
>passed one car on to the next shift, or sometimes a car got to sit
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>and initialed off if accepted. I have a similar checklist for my cars
>which follows recommended periodic checks.

If a cop can do it, I would suspect a minimum wager could as well :)

>With the cars which talk to you, maybe the checklist should be part of
>the program....
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>  "That was you 150th fast food fart, change the air freshener NOW!"

Unless of course you enjoy the odor of fast food farts.
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Spike - 30 May 2005 03:59 GMT
>There are some other issues a foot other then that.  Ever seen a set
>of tires with more then enough tread life left and dry rot cracks all
>through the sidewalls?

Actually no. Not on a motor vehicle. I have seen on trailers, boats,
etc.

>>I do agree that people should perform routine checks. As a cop, we
>>passed one car on to the next shift, or sometimes a car got to sit
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>
>If a cop can do it, I would suspect a minimum wager could as well :)

I can't really say my pay was super bad. In fact, it was pretty good,
depending on where I worked. But it can still come down to do I pay
the rent, or do I fix the leaky brakes.

>>With the cars which talk to you, maybe the checklist should be part of
>>the program....
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>
>Unless of course you enjoy the odor of fast food farts.

I've heard of those kind of people.... They're the ones who generally
make the biggest stink when you pull them over. : )

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