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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / May 2005

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D.L. Man - 27 May 2005 18:33 GMT
How does the oil get to the heads?
How is the oil returned to the pan?
What does the oil go to before it goes into the filter?
on a standard 5.0
Kruse - 27 May 2005 22:03 GMT
> How does the oil get to the heads?
> How is the oil returned to the pan?
> What does the oil go to before it goes into the filter?
> on a standard 5.0

Answer #1: Through the hollow pushrods. (You referenced a 5.0 V-8. Not
all engines do it this way and not all engines have hollow pushrods)

Answer #2: Uh, by gravity I guess. If you are talking about oil from
the head, it goes to the pan via the oil drain holes. It gets into the
head from the hollow pushrods, lubricates the rocker arms and the valve
stems, marginally, and then returns to the oil pan by the force of
gravity.

Answer #3: The oil starts in the pan, goes through the oil pump pickup
tube, the oil pump, the filter, and then to the  rest of the engine.

BTW, if you are just starting to learn about engines, the 5.0 is a
great engine to get your hands dirty with. Parts are plentiful, cheap,
and the engine is simplistic.
Big Al - 27 May 2005 23:13 GMT
>> How does the oil get to the heads?
>> How is the oil returned to the pan?
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> great engine to get your hands dirty with. Parts are plentiful, cheap,
> and the engine is simplistic.

There is a drain hole at each end of each head to get it back to the pan.

Al
D.L. Man - 28 May 2005 19:25 GMT
So The only way oil gets to the head in 5.0's is thru the pushrods. Right?
And it drains back into the pan thru the drain holes. So if the push rods
were interupted the oil would still flow thru the filter and if redirected
it wouldn't mess up anything as long as it went back to the drain holes?

If I am missing anything here let me know. I want to thank you helping me
with this. It cleared up allot.

D.L. Man
Kruse - 29 May 2005 05:24 GMT
> So The only way oil gets to the head in 5.0's is thru the pushrods. Right?

  In a 5.0 Ford, yes. Now the 332, 352,360, 390, 410, 427 and 428
Fords are a different story. They have a rocker arm shaft that gets
oiled entirely different.

> And it drains back into the pan thru the drain holes. So if the push rods
> were interupted the oil would still flow thru the filter and if redirected
> it wouldn't mess up anything as long as it went back to the drain holes?

   Well, I'm not sure what you are asking here exactly. Yes, if a
pushrod would plug up, it could mess up things by not oiling a rocker
arm or the tip of the pushrod. The rest of the engine would be okay,
just maybe not the area that is affected. (Although it would PROBABLY
get oiled by the splash from another neighboring pushrod) Is this
getting complicated yet?!!
If you do regular maintenance, there is not much of a reason for the
pushrod to plug up.

> If I am missing anything here let me know. I want to thank you helping me
> with this. It cleared up allot.
>
> D.L. Man

Exactly what is it you are trying to ask here?  :-)
D.L. Man - 30 May 2005 02:11 GMT
> > So The only way oil gets to the head in 5.0's is thru the pushrods. Right?
>
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>
> Exactly what is it you are trying to ask here?  :-)

I was thinking that if the oil path was diverted from the push rods to
something else and still returned to the drain holes the engine design
wouldn't be changed.

But you have helped allot thanks.
Brian from Home - 29 May 2005 07:37 GMT
For about $10 you can go to most auto parts stores and get a book /shop
manual, either general topics or Ford specific, which will have plenty of
words and pictures that will provide much more than a few responses here -
and also include much about the rest of the car. Even if you don't want to
work on your car yourself, it's a good idea to know something about it so
you can keep yourself from getting fooled by a dishonest service shop.
These manuals typically devote many pages to engine text, photos and
drawings.
Ciao
Brian in Seattle

> How does the oil get to the heads?
> How is the oil returned to the pan?
> What does the oil go to before it goes into the filter?
> on a standard 5.0
D.L. Man - 30 May 2005 02:13 GMT
> For about $10 you can go to most auto parts stores and get a book /shop
> manual, either general topics or Ford specific, which will have plenty of
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> Ciao
> Brian in Seattle

Thanks. I have been planning on that very course of action. I just needed
some quick answers though. I thought that the oil went thru the push rods I
just needed confirmation.

D.
 
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