Hey everyone,
I am looking for an 05 GT, but up where I am (Sacramento CA area) ALL
the dealers have mark-ups around 10k dollars or so. I was in Folsom
yesterday, and the markup on a V6 was 10K. (7,000 for 19 inch rims,
and 3,000 dealer mark-up on top of this.) 30,000 for a 20,000 car.
The GT's are worse. I was quoted 44k for a black GT. This is nuts.
Is it like this everywhere else, or just here? I am going to be
patient, and wait for the dealers to get thier heads out of their
a.ses, but the wait is killing me.
BTW, I heard all sorts of good dealer lines, you know: they are
limiting production, GT's are sold out for the next two years, etc...
Idiots!
brian
Richard - 30 May 2005 23:08 GMT
A month or so ago a dealer in Vancouver BC was advertising '05 GT's at
$29,995 Canadian. (Approx. $23,800 US). Might pay to shop outside your area
and have a nice trip to boot.

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Texas Ranger - 31 May 2005 07:37 GMT
That was a demo model. Coastal Ford in Burnaby, BC had one brand new last
week for $32K CDN. I just saw a V6 at Richport for $26K CDN, Black
convertible that has been at Metro Motors in Port Coquitlam for about 3
weeks and 3 Convertibles at another dealer. No shortage in BC ...
>A month or so ago a dealer in Vancouver BC was advertising '05 GT's at
> $29,995 Canadian. (Approx. $23,800 US). Might pay to shop outside your
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.boB - 31 May 2005 01:22 GMT
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> brian
Well, that's california for ya. The dealers do
that because they can, there's always some moron with
more money - or credit - than sense.

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Mort Guffman - 31 May 2005 03:37 GMT
I just checked the local dealer's website. They have a GT for 22153,
and two at 26685. This is in Clearwater FL
http://www.freedomfordusa.com
mort
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blank - 01 Jun 2005 00:01 GMT
I got my V6 for $22k out the door and I got a LOT of the options ($22
was invoice price for the options I had
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Itsfrom Click - 31 May 2005 12:23 GMT
Pls allow an old fart to take a couple seconds to tell the youngers the
way it used to be: my Dad was a "Ford Man".......over the years we had
Fords, Mercury's....Lincolns...wouldn't think of anything
else.......usually bought from the same dealership because we delt with
the same salesman for 20+ years.......in fact, the salesman knew my Dad
got a new car every 2 years and would call Dad: "Mr. _____.....we just
got a new delivery and I happend to see this really sharp job that I
think you'd really like.....want me to bring it out to your home
tonight?" That's right, the salesman would bring the new car to the
house........drive our car home then take it to work the next day and
have it serviced. Also a very old sales trick: once the neighbors see
you in the new car, its pretty hard to go back to the old one! It was a
concept unknown today called Repeat Business.....they didn't want to
sell you just 1 car....they wanted you to keep coming back.
Anyway, you came from a Ford family, or Chebie or MoPar family.....and
that's why I've bought mostly Fords all my life, too. Over 10 of them
so far.
And the point of this is: the Ford dealer is trying to screw me on a
new 'stang.......I can have my choice of ordering an "06 with no idea
when it will come......or I can pay $5000 over sticker on one that shows
up now.
Or I can stop being a Ford guy. The day's of
customer......dealer.....and salesman loyalty are long gone. The
dealership could care less if they ever see me again as long as they get
top dollar on a car now. THe salesman I deal with won't be there 6
months from now. And I - who have never had a foreign car - am wishing
there were more rear drive rice grinders to chose from......in fact,
I've been treated like such a piece of dirt, I'm really motivated to
never darken their doorstep again.
ZombyWoof - 31 May 2005 12:59 GMT
>Pls allow an old fart to take a couple seconds to tell the youngers the
>way it used to be: my Dad was a "Ford Man".......over the years we had
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>I've been treated like such a piece of dirt, I'm really motivated to
>never darken their doorstep again.
Dude you are longing for days that are dead & gone. Vehicles for the
masses. Remember all the other people who used to come to your house
like the Dr, Milkman, or dog food guy. All gone. Go to the mall, or
the auto mall.

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Ken Zwyers - 01 Jun 2005 04:53 GMT
If I can, let me make a suggestion. Before writing off Ford altogether, try
one or two more dealerships. Just because one dealership is screwing around
with you doesn't mean that they all will. But I do agree with you on one
thing. This particular dealership is counting on you wanting the car so
much that you'll give in just to get it. I plan to start looking this fall
(probably). I'm trying to prepare myself for this situation. I really want
a new Mustang ('05 or '06), but I don't intend to overpay to get it.
> Pls allow an old fart to take a couple seconds to tell the youngers the
> way it used to be: my Dad was a "Ford Man".......over the years we had
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> I've been treated like such a piece of dirt, I'm really motivated to
> never darken their doorstep again.
dsuperbee@aol.com - 01 Jun 2005 05:55 GMT
If I can, let me make a suggestion. Before writing off Ford
altogether, try
one or two more dealerships. Just because one dealership is screwing
around
with you doesn't mean that they all will. But I do agree with you on
one
thing. This particular dealership is counting on you wanting the car
so
much that you'll give in just to get it. I plan to start looking this
fall
(probably). I'm trying to prepare myself for this situation. I really
want
a new Mustang ('05 or '06), but I don't intend to overpay to get it
I am not giving up on Ford, I just know I have to be (very) patient
about it. I'll probably end up having to order one, since the legend
lime metallic (or whatever it is called) does not seem to be popular at
all, and I love it. Just tired of waiting :)
brian
Mark C. - 02 Jun 2005 01:59 GMT
Try waiting a year for a used one that someone defaulted on.

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ZombyWoof - 02 Jun 2005 13:16 GMT
>Try waiting a year for a used one that someone defaulted on.
Hell the used ones in the market in my area are selling for 3 to 5K
over new sticker. I have no idea what the dealers are ripping off new
buyers with "Adjusted Market Price" stickers. There is actually one
dealership here that pulls that sh.t on Kia's.

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Itsfrom Click - 02 Jun 2005 23:14 GMT
I've been to 5 dealers so far......this isn't just a question of limited
supply right now - they have an allocation for the year and there just
aren't going to be enough to go around.....especially GT converts. The
BEST offer I've gotton is they will ALLOW me to order an "06 at full
sticker: price unknown, delivery date unknown.
I'm in a small town of 20,000.......so far there are 3 GT converts and
about 5 6's running around.....I can only guess what they paid for them.
As far as finding a used one: the only hope would be to source
off-lease factory "executive" cars...in 6 months or a year....and there
won't be many of them.
Richard - 03 Jun 2005 03:36 GMT
You've got 5 Ford Dealers in a town of 20,000?? WOW.
Check further afield.

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> I've been to 5 dealers so far......this isn't just a question of limited
> supply right now - they have an allocation for the year and there just
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> off-lease factory "executive" cars...in 6 months or a year....and there
> won't be many of them.
Itsfrom Click - 03 Jun 2005 12:44 GMT
naw.....1 in my town, another in the same county...went to 1 in a bigger
town 30 miles away.....also the biggest dealers in Cleveland and
Columbus OH...........also checked with the dealer my company buys
fleets from.....in Kansas City.
That's as much as I'm gonna do......will just wait till they get
real.....I need the money more than the dealership owners, so it's in a
CD now!