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James FRITZ Friedel - 01 Jun 2005 06:10 GMT What is the best electronic ignition conversion for 72 351c 2v Stang. Want to keep it stock looking as possible. Thanks! Fritz
Spike - 01 Jun 2005 07:17 GMT You could go with the Pertronix conversion, and leave the old system's external signs in place for that "original" look. Unless they pop the distributor cap, nothing is visible.
>What is the best electronic ignition conversion for 72 351c 2v Stang. >Want to keep it stock looking as possible. Thanks! Fritz Hey! Spikey Likes IT! 1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8" w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16
66 6F HCS - 01 Jun 2005 15:26 GMT > You could go with the Pertronix conversion, and leave the old system's > external signs in place for that "original" look. Unless they pop the > distributor cap, nothing is visible. Or try the Crane XR-1. Again, nothing visible, but this one has a built in rev-limiter.
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Spike - 01 Jun 2005 20:45 GMT Pertronix, and not that I'm pushing that brand, it's just what I happened to go with, has a separate adjustable rev-limiter... not that I really understand it's purpose... or if it's even needed with the Pertronix Ignitor II module which follows the power curve, as opposed to the Ignitor, which doesn't.
>> You could go with the Pertronix conversion, and leave the old system's >> external signs in place for that "original" look. Unless they pop the >> distributor cap, nothing is visible. > >Or try the Crane XR-1. Again, nothing visible, but this one has a built in >rev-limiter. Hey! Spikey Likes IT! 1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8" w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16
66 6F HCS - 01 Jun 2005 23:26 GMT > Pertronix, and not that I'm pushing that brand, it's just what I > happened to go with, has a separate adjustable rev-limiter... > not that I really understand it's purpose... or if it's even needed > with the Pertronix Ignitor II module which follows the power curve, as > opposed to the Ignitor, which doesn't. The Pertronix is a separate unit though, with the Crane it's built in. My Pertronix II crapped out within 2 months of install. I've heard the same from MANY others who've used it. Never heard any problems with the original Ignitor though.
I use a rev limiter as a "just in case". Keeps me from "accidentally" scattering my motor. With the amount of stroke I have plus cast internals, I'm not gonna push it past 5000, so that's what I set it at. My max torque comes in at 3200 RPM's and that's really what gets you moving on the street anyway, So I still have plenty of room above that before 5000. Max HP is at 5400 RPM's but I'm not comfortable running the motor that high.
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Spike - 02 Jun 2005 01:32 GMT Unfortunately, for me, Pertronix didn't come out with the distributor until after (ain't that how it usually goes?) I purchased the Ignitor II system.
As for the rev limiter... I may have to add that, but not sure yet... the 289 is rebuilt with Edelbrock Performer hi-rise and carb, and a crisper cam added. Have not determined where that will take me.
Just added the Flaming River steering box, totally rebuilt poly front suspension. Already had the negative wedge kit, and the bump steer kit is waiting to be installed. Nice, though unexpected chunk of change.
I still need headers, but I'm looking at going the hi-po exhaust manifold route as opposed to Tri-Y's. Either is good for a couple of horses.
>> Pertronix, and not that I'm pushing that brand, it's just what I >> happened to go with, has a separate adjustable rev-limiter... [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >anyway, So I still have plenty of room above that before 5000. Max HP is at >5400 RPM's but I'm not comfortable running the motor that high. Hey! Spikey Likes IT! 1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8" w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16
Mark C. - 02 Jun 2005 01:52 GMT Spike, The hipo cast iron manifolds are a great way to go in a mildly modified engine. Had them in a '66 convertible I owned and I could chirp the tires 1-2 and 2-3 with and AOD trans. and 3.55 trac loc gears. Match ported 351W heads, Performer intake, cam, carb, and MSD ignition. Low maintenence less heat and less noise from under the hood.
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> Unfortunately, for me, Pertronix didn't come out with the distributor > until after (ain't that how it usually goes?) I purchased the Ignitor [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8" > w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16 Spike - 02 Jun 2005 02:08 GMT Thanks, Mark. At the moment, it's fairly stock. No fancy heads, etc, though they are probably better than they were (I haven't got the car back yet) and it has the stock C4, though the trak-lok was added to the 8" rear. And it has the OEM type dual exhaust system still. About the biggest thing done, besides the paint, was converting to 16" wheels.
I'm looking at an AOD or 5 spd OD conversion since I'll be making a lot of cross country trips (probably the former). But FIRST I need to pay down a bit more of the restoration.... LOL How do you spell "OVER BUDGET"? : ) At least it wasn't "INSUFFICIENT FUNDS" : ) LOL The local Mustang parts place suggested the hi-po way to go because there were less problems with alterations such as steering, brake system, lowering, etc. I almost swapped the 289 out for a 351, but decided to stay with the 289 for funding reasons, as well as keeping close to the original build, which was an OEM A Code.
>Spike, The hipo cast iron manifolds are a great way to go in a mildly >modified engine. Had them in a '66 convertible I owned and I could chirp the >tires 1-2 and 2-3 with and AOD trans. and 3.55 trac loc gears. Match ported >351W heads, Performer intake, cam, carb, and MSD ignition. Low maintenence >less heat and less noise from under the hood. Hey! Spikey Likes IT! 1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8" w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16
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