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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / July 2005What's wrong with my pony ??
So, the ole' nag has started dying for NO REASON ! which is real entertaining when the power steering goes out in a turn :( What happens is that it just DIES for no reason, like you turned off the key ! ! .. It will start back up after it sets a minute. hasn't left me stranded yet :) I DEFINITELY get the impression it's electrical, but it doesn't stay "broken" long enough for me to diagnose it. Oh, BTW it has a new fuel filter, cap and rotor. It's a 94 5.0. any suggestions other than just swapping out parts till it goes away ? Thanks Had two different problems cause similar reaction in my TransAM. The first turned out to be the catalytic converters went which messed with a sensor. The second was the alternator which wasn't providing enough charge to keep the battery from slowly dropping until it got so low that it would start after sitting for a while (like overnight), but when I got to the store, bank, or wherever, it wouldn't restart. It started doing this intermittently at first, but got progressively worse. I replaced the alternator and put the battery on charge overnight. After that no more problems. >So, the ole' nag has started dying for NO REASON ! which is real >entertaining when the power steering goes out in a turn :( [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Thanks Hey! Spikey Likes IT! 1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8" w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16 >So, the ole' nag has started dying for NO REASON ! which is real >entertaining when the power steering goes out in a turn :( [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Thanks do a self test ya retard h u r c a s t > So, the ole' nag has started dying for NO REASON ! which is real > entertaining when the power steering goes out in a turn :( [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Thanks Does it only happen in a turn? Does it only happen on a rigth turn? Does it happen when your fuel level is below 1/4 tank? Guess why I am asking LOL. If anyone has a clue, I would be very happy to have a direction for looking for a cause. JC 91 5.0 No.. so far it's happened 4 times.. always going STRAIGHT. I think the "tug test" has merit. but I've done some tugging with no obvious culprits so far. if it would JUST FAIL and stay failed, I could troubleshoot it! ! but just about the time I start to look, it starts right up ! ! ! At the moment, the fuel IS less than 1/4 tank >> So, the ole' nag has started dying for NO REASON ! which is real >> entertaining when the power steering goes out in a turn :( [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > 91 5.0 "" wrote: > No.. so far it's happened 4 times.. always going STRAIGHT. > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > > > 91 5.0 If it happens during a turn the wiring harness could be getting snagged on the steering column and as you turn it pulls on the electrical connections. Had that problem on a Ford Saphire before. It only happened when you turned to the right. > If it happens during a turn the wiring harness could be getting > snagged on the steering column and as you turn it pulls on the > electrical connections. Had that problem on a Ford Saphire before. It > only happened when you turned to the right. It is only happening in a right turn or hard right curve.. but it is also only happening when the fuel tank drops below 1/2 (for hard curves) and 1/4 for true right turns when I dont come to a complete stop (like going around a corner from one street to another). If I come to a complete stop before making the turn, this doesn't happen. When it does happen.. the car *chugs* like it is starved for fuel and is getting air in the line. If the tank is approx. 1/2 full, then coming out of the curve and re-entering a straight away at slow speed seems to allow time for the fuel to begin flowing through the line again and the car doesn't stall. If the tank is under 1/4 full, then, invariably, the car will stall and I will have to try to manouveur it to the side of the road and re-start the car. JC when this happens and you crank it, and while it still wont start, do you see the tach registering? I suggest you start it in the driveway and do a "tug test" to see if there's a bad harness connection. Be firm but gentle That's what she said.  SignatureMark -- "I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates who once said, "I drank what?". " Val Kilmer in Real Genius. > when this happens and you crank it, and while it still wont start, do you > see the tach registering? > > I suggest you start it in the driveway and do a "tug test" to see if > there's a bad harness connection. Be firm but gentle >So, the ole' nag has started dying for NO REASON ! which is real >entertaining when the power steering goes out in a turn :( [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Thanks suspect ignition module h u r c a s t I've had both a bad ignition module & faulty fuel pump give me those very same indications . > So, the ole' nag has started dying for NO REASON ! which is real > entertaining when the power steering goes out in a turn :( [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Thanks "ironrod" <cmuza@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:DuQte.998564$w62.482369 @bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: > I've had both a bad ignition module & faulty fuel pump give me those very > same indications Which is why one should pay attention to the tach when a car wont start... to put it plain and simple... if the tach needle is laying on the peg as you crank, there's no signal to the coil. Needle should bounce as you turn ign on, then again as you crank. no bounce on ign on, means bad coil or no power to it No argument here. > "ironrod" <cmuza@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:DuQte.998564$w62.482369 > @bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > no bounce on ign on, means bad coil or no power to it I second ignition module on the side of the distributer. You will need a specal thin wall socket available at most Napa type stores. One other quick test. Once it stalls while still rolling jiggle the key without taking it out of the run positon. Outside chance its an igintion switch. Hooked Yeah, I considered the ignition switch... especially since it's kinda sloppy, BUT when it dies the radio, and other electric accessories are still on. Also when you TRY to start it it WON'T (usually) for a short time... I'm leaning towards the ign mod or crank sensor, but I hate to replace things on guesses! I've been driving the HECK out of it lately and it's benn running PERFECT. it MIGHT have something to do with the 100+ days. it's been cool-ish the last couple days. *shrug* >I second ignition module on the side of the distributer. You will need > a specal thin wall socket available at most Napa type stores. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Hooked >I second ignition module on the side of the distributer. You will need >a specal thin wall socket available at most Napa type stores. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Hooked well, you're both wrong because... the 94 and 95 gt's don't have the ignition module sitting ON the distributor anymore ! It's located under the airfilter box and is likely okay. My guess is it is the hall effect sensor. It will get worse quick up tot the point where the car will only run for 30 seconds and die. >>I second ignition module on the side of the distributer. You will need >>a specal thin wall socket available at most Napa type stores. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > My guess is it is the hall effect sensor. It will get worse quick up > tot the point where the car will only run for 30 seconds and die. Yeah, I was wondering about that... I didn't SEE any module on the side of the distributor :) Funny thing is since I changed the fuel filter, it died TWICE soon after, but then has been running PERFECT. I've been driving it all over, and no dieing, or starting problems in the last few weeks... I'm sure it's waiting till I'm nice and FARRRRR away from home befor it acts up again :) Thanks for the suggestions. Fuel filters do that, had a similar thing on my '84. A bit of junk left in there afterwards, and then it ran GREAT. (Until it rusted out.) >Funny thing is since I changed the fuel filter, it died TWICE soon after, >but then has been running PERFECT. I've been driving it all over, and no >dieing, or starting problems in the last few weeks... > >I'm sure it's waiting till I'm nice and FARRRRR away from home befor it acts >up again :) maybe the crank pos sensor > So, the ole' nag has started dying for NO REASON ! which is real > entertaining when the power steering goes out in a turn :( [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Thanks |
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