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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / July 2005Cadillac 501 engine
I posted here awhile back about having inherited my fathers Cadillac Eldorado with a 501 C.I. engine, and I'm still trying to get on top of the learning curve. Here is my latest dilemma: Looking at the engine heads there seems to be two temperature sensors screwed directly in to the heads. One is on the right-hand side all the way forward, the other is on the left-hand side all the way aft. There is a single black wire coming from the one up front and a green wire coming from the rearward one. They're not intersecting any oil or coolant passageways that I can see, so my conclusion is they are measuring the head temperatures directly. Did Cadillac actually make an engine system this sophisticated back then and if so how do I tell if it is working? Or am I even on the right page of music? >I posted here awhile back about having inherited my fathers Cadillac > Eldorado with a 501 C.I. engine, and I'm still trying to get on top of the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > if so how do I tell if it is working? Or am I even on the right page of > music? One could be for the temperature gauge and the other for the hot light. Knowing what year the car was could help. Most call that engine the 500. Al "ironrod" <cmuza@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:2yXBe.735$5N3.662 @bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: > Or am I even on the right page of > music? You're not even on the right page of manufacturer. This is a Mustang group. F-O-R-D. Not even remotely related to C-A-D-I-L-L-A-C.  Signature"This space for rent." > "ironrod" <cmuza@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:2yXBe.735$5N3.662 > @bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > You're not even on the right page of manufacturer. This is a Mustang group. > F-O-R-D. Not even remotely related to C-A-D-I-L-L-A-C. He is well aware of that. Before berating regular posters to this group, perhapse you should be here awile first and see who who does and doesn't know where they are. It should have been a clue when he mentioned how he had posted about said Cadillac 501 in this group before. Signature"Network management is like trying to herd cats." -- Unknown "I wonder how much deeper the ocean would be without sponges?" -- TazAmd - Humor Section Gettingtogather.com "WindsorFox[SS]" <windsorfoxNO@SPAMcox.net> wrote in news:NC3Ce.56200 $iU.1153@lakeread05: > He is well aware of that. Before berating regular posters to this > group, perhapse you should be here awile first and see who who does and > doesn't know where they are. It should have been a clue when he > mentioned how he had posted about said Cadillac 501 in this group before. Ah, the lokal Netcop. Been wondering where you were lurking. BTW, I'm the spelling cop. You need a dictionary. "Perhapse?" "awile?" > "WindsorFox[SS]" <windsorfoxNO@SPAMcox.net> wrote in news:NC3Ce.56200 > $iU.1153@lakeread05: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > "Perhapse?" "awile?" lokal?? Heh Don Manning "2.3Sleeper" <spamdmanning@mwcmustangs.com> wrote in news:PIiCe.549$zh7.501 @newssvr29.news.prodigy.net: > lokal?? And you didn't figure out that was intentional? Signature"This space for rent." > "2.3Sleeper" <spamdmanning@mwcmustangs.com> wrote in news:PIiCe.549$zh7.501 > @newssvr29.news.prodigy.net: > > > lokal?? > > And you didn't figure out that was intentional? Yes, but I could not resist. Don Manning >>Ah, the lokal Netcop. Been wondering where you were lurking. BTW, I'm the >>spelling cop. You need a dictionary. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Don Manning He'll probably say he did that to mimic my typos... Signature"Network management is like trying to herd cats." -- Unknown "I wonder how much deeper the ocean would be without sponges?" -- TazAmd - Humor Section Gettingtogather.com > "WindsorFox[SS]" <windsorfoxNO@SPAMcox.net> wrote in news:NC3Ce.56200 > $iU.1153@lakeread05: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > "Perhapse?" "awile?" Excuse me a.shole, YOU are the one with the little mister cop attitude. A stinking newbie yakking at a longtime regular poster asking a question he thinks he can get answered. I'd rather be one that makes typos than be a total jackass. You need to go elsewhere. Signature"Network management is like trying to herd cats." -- Unknown "I wonder how much deeper the ocean would be without sponges?" -- TazAmd - Humor Section Gettingtogather.com "WindsorFox[SS]" <windsorfoxNO@SPAMcox.net> wrote in news:KSwCe.56289 $iU.54414@lakeread05: > Excuse me a.shole, YOU are the one with the little mister cop > attitude. A stinking newbie yakking at a longtime regular poster asking > a question he thinks he can get answered. I'd rather be one that makes > typos than be a total jackass. You need to go elsewhere. And, just who died and put YOU in charge of this newsgroup? Elaich is right. You are a busybody NetKop who jumped into a thread that didn't concern you, with no useful information to add, and started yelling names at "stinking newbies" when it was none of your business to begin with! I've been on Usenet since the late 1980s, but just came into this group. Does that make me a "stinking newbie" in your exalted opinion? The OP didn't take offense, so why should you? I think YOU need to go elsewhere. Either that, or get off the computer. When a person starts policing a forum, they are taking it way too seriously. Either that, or they're just a jerk to begin with. > And, just who died and put YOU in charge of this newsgroup? It was up for grabs when Bill S left, several peopole run it. Why? > Elaich is right. No he's not. > You are a busybody NetKop who jumped into a thread that didn't > concern you, with no useful information to add, You apparently can not hold your attention to read long enough to get a grasp of the thread. Any thread in a public forum concerns anyone in that forum. The only net cop attitude came from the jackass telling a regular poster he was in the wrong group, which by the was was zero useful information, as was your recent useless and incorrect post. > and started yelling names > at "stinking newbies" when it was none of your business to begin with! Then it's none of your business either so STFU. That's about the stupidest thing I've heard in a while. Defending the OP is none of my business, but the jackass telling him he's OT while not providing any useful info either is his business. Either your a sock puppet or another idiot newb. > I've been on Usenet since the late 1980s, but just came into this group. > Does that make me a "stinking newbie" in your exalted opinion? Yep, in this group it does because you do not know who is who, who has been here who hasn't, what is generally accepted what is not. If you've been on Usenet as long as I have then you should certainly know that you should read a group for a while before making highly critical posts, your friend did not. After he gets called down and jumps into defensive mode he offers a general emmissions related answer. Gee thanks. > The OP didn't take offense, so why should you? I think YOU need to go elsewhere. > Either that, or get off the computer. I think not. I've been a member of this group since 14 months after it was started By Bill S. > When a person starts policing a > forum, they are taking it way too seriously. Either that, or they're just > a jerk to begin with. I agree. Please see the policing post made by the other guy. There was no policing in my reply. I replied in defense of the OP when your lil buddy decided to tell him he was in the wrong group, or did you not read that part of his post? Or perhapse you just jumped onto the wrong bandwagon since you're a newb in here and don't know who is who? Great way to jump into and new group, start calling people net cops and such. Good start there bub. Signature"Network management is like trying to herd cats." -- Unknown "I wonder how much deeper the ocean would be without sponges?" -- TazAmd - Humor Section Gettingtogather.com >> And, just who died and put YOU in charge of this newsgroup? > > It was up for grabs when Bill S left, several peopole run it. Why? You DO manage to attract all the new spazzes, don't you? Never fails. Too funny. :() >>>And, just who died and put YOU in charge of this newsgroup? >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > :() And you get the groundhog. Life is JUST not fair.... Signature"Network management is like trying to herd cats." -- Unknown "I wonder how much deeper the ocean would be without sponges?" -- TazAmd - Humor Section Gettingtogather.com >>>>And, just who died and put YOU in charge of this newsgroup? >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > And you get the groundhog. Life is JUST not fair.... What's not fair about that? You saying I don't deserve groundhogs? dwight "WindsorFox[SS]" <windsorfoxNO@SPAMcox.net> wrote in news:KSwCe.56289 $iU.54414@lakeread05: > Excuse me a.shole, YOU are the one with the little mister cop > attitude. A stinking newbie yakking at a longtime regular poster asking > a question he thinks he can get answered. I'd rather be one that makes > typos than be a total jackass. You need to go elsewhere. *YAWN* Bye bye, jerkass. Signature"This space for rent." I probably should have mentioned my post was off topic, but there is absolutely no information flow on the Cadillac News group. I was just hoping somebody here might be able to help me out. The car is a 1973 Eldorado BTW. > > "ironrod" <cmuza@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:2yXBe.735$5N3.662 > > @bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > doesn't know where they are. It should have been a clue when he > mentioned how he had posted about said Cadillac 501 in this group before. > I probably should have mentioned my post was off topic, but there is > absolutely no information flow on the Cadillac News group. I was just > hoping somebody here might be able to help me out. The car is a 1973 > Eldorado BTW. C'mon, if someone in the Mustang group can't look at that subject line and see it's OT, then really don't need to be driving. Besides that anyone that's been here more than 8 months would remember the last time you posted about it. And yeah, I've been to the Caddi group. Unfortunately (for you) all of the old Cadillacs we had are gone. I have been sniffing around in the garage and if I find the Cadillac shop manuals I had I'll let you know. Signature"Network management is like trying to herd cats." -- Unknown "I wonder how much deeper the ocean would be without sponges?" -- TazAmd - Humor Section Gettingtogather.com I could definitely use them, the only Chilton's manual I've been able to find reads like a first grade primer. No detail at all, none of the engine monitoring circuits are shown, no vacuum diagrams, the thing is absolutely worthless. > > I probably should have mentioned my post was off topic, but there is > > absolutely no information flow on the Cadillac News group. I was just [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > been sniffing around in the garage and if I find the Cadillac shop > manuals I had I'll let you know. > I could definitely use them, the only Chilton's manual I've been able to > find reads like a first grade primer. No detail at all, none of the engine > monitoring circuits are shown, no vacuum diagrams, the thing is absolutely > worthless. Imma going in the attic this weekend. I'll let you know twat I find. Know anyone that needs parts for a 69-70 DeVille?? :-p Signature"Network management is like trying to herd cats." -- Unknown "I wonder how much deeper the ocean would be without sponges?" -- TazAmd - Humor Section Gettingtogather.com >> I could definitely use them, the only Chilton's manual I've been able to >> find reads like a first grade primer. No detail at all, none of the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Imma going in the attic this weekend. I'll let you know twat I find. > Know anyone that needs parts for a 69-70 DeVille?? :-p What parts? I know a guy with a 70 Deville and another with a convertible. Al > What parts? I know a guy with a 70 Deville and another with a convertible. > > Al I'm not sure whats left, but there *was* an entire front cap. I think that's where the service manual went was with the 70 Coupe' DeVille when it was sold. I know the door and hood are gone, but there was a mirrir, button panel and mirror control, som AC parts and such. If he wants to know and is interested I'll go look, it's all in my moms attic. Signature"Network management is like trying to herd cats." -- Unknown "I wonder how much deeper the ocean would be without sponges?" -- TazAmd - Humor Section Gettingtogather.com >> I could definitely use them, the only Chilton's manual I've been able to >> find reads like a first grade primer. No detail at all, none of the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Imma going in the attic this weekend. I'll let you know twat I find. > Know anyone that needs parts for a 69-70 DeVille?? :-p I can not find it. I *know* I had a 1972 Cadillac service manual, but can not find it for a million dollars.... Signature"Network management is like trying to herd cats." -- Unknown "I wonder how much deeper the ocean would be without sponges?" -- TazAmd - Humor Section Gettingtogather.com Thanks for the effort. > >> I could definitely use them, the only Chilton's manual I've been able to > >> find reads like a first grade primer. No detail at all, none of the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I can not find it. I *know* I had a 1972 Cadillac service manual, > but can not find it for a million dollars.... "ironrod" <cmuza@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:xenCe.433048$cg1.233306 @bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: > I probably should have mentioned my post was off topic, but there is > absolutely no information flow on the Cadillac News group. I was just > hoping somebody here might be able to help me out. The car is a 1973 > Eldorado BTW. Sorry, my post was mostly tongue-in-cheek. It sounds like some kind of primitive emissions control to me. I would trace those wires, and see if they lead to a box that also has vacuum hoses attached. Then again, it just may be an unusually complicated "hot" warning. Great source of info for those old cars are the Motor's and/or Chilton's manuals. Most libraries will have them in the reference section. Signature"This space for rent." I did some primitive troubleshooting today, and found that they do indeed appear to be head temperature sensors with a separate warning light than the water temperature sensor, looks as if both sensors have to close (right & left heads) before the light/alarm goes off, it also seems that the signal is wired into the drivers side door switch so that it self tests whenever you open the door with the ignition on. (You can see why this drives me crazy.) > "ironrod" <cmuza@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:xenCe.433048$cg1.233306 > @bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Great source of info for those old cars are the Motor's and/or Chilton's > manuals. Most libraries will have them in the reference section. > I posted here awhile back about having inherited my fathers Cadillac > Eldorado with a 501 C.I. engine, and I'm still trying to get on top of the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > if so how do I tell if it is working? Or am I even on the right page of > music? There's a bible at the bay: http://tinyurl.com/84vf2 -- Mike 93 Cobra Wish I had caught that one earlier, probably just what I needed. > > I posted here awhile back about having inherited my fathers Cadillac > > Eldorado with a 501 C.I. engine, and I'm still trying to get on top of the [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Mike > 93 Cobra > > > I posted here awhile back about having inherited my fathers Cadillac > > > Eldorado with a 501 C.I. engine, and I'm still trying to get on top of [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Wish I had caught that one earlier, probably just what I needed. Don't sweat it. Here's another one on the bay in excellent shape, with seller feedback at 100%. If you plan on keeping the ole Caddy, then don't let this one slip away. Your call...HTH http://tinyurl.com/9ldmr -- Mike 93 Cobra |
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