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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / August 2005Equal length header - burning my plug wires!!!!!
Has anyone experienced an issue with the equal length header burning your plug wires?? I have a 95 GT and have recently installed some equal length headers. The only problem is that one of the plug wires is very close to the header and it is suffering the consequences. I have tried adding a heat sleeve, but it still burns through it. I don't want to go back to the shorty headers, but I don't know what to do. Help!! > Has anyone experienced an issue with the equal length header burning your > plug wires?? I have a 95 GT and have recently installed some equal length [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Help!! This happens. Find a way to get the wire away from the pipes. use a zip tie, a coathanger, whatever it takes. Secure it clear of the pipes. This is a common problem. Don't re-swap your exhaust because of plug wires.  SignatureWound Up ThunderSnake #65 It is only burning the #3 plug wire(at the elbow). Has anyone heard about the success of shorter plugs?? > > Has anyone experienced an issue with the equal length header burning your > > plug wires?? I have a 95 GT and have recently installed some equal length [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > This is a common problem. Don't re-swap your exhaust because of plug > wires. Gdriver: Jegs has header wrap. You can buy a coil of it for about $25. http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=1351&prmen br=361 It states that it reduces header temp by 70%. That should keep your plug wires from burning up. Alias -----Original Message----- From: gdriver [mailto:gdriver@worldnet.att.net] Posted At: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:02 PM Posted To: rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang Conversation: Equal length header - burning my plug wires!!!!! Subject: Re: Equal length header - burning my plug wires!!!!! It is only burning the #3 plug wire(at the elbow). Has anyone heard about the success of shorter plugs?? "Wound Up" <none@your.disposal.ask.me> wrote in message news:42FA9468.2080901@your.disposal.ask.me... > gdriver wrote: > > Has anyone experienced an issue with the equal length header burning your > > plug wires?? I have a 95 GT and have recently installed some equal length > > headers. The only problem is that one of the plug wires is very > > close to the > > header and it is suffering the consequences. I have tried adding a > > heat sleeve, but it still burns through it. I don't want to go back > > to the shorty > > headers, but I don't know what to do. > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Wound Up > ThunderSnake #65 Re: Equal length header - burning my plug wires!!!!! Gdriver: Jegs has header wrap. You can buy a coil of it for about $25. http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=1351&prmenbr=361 It states that it reduces header temp by 70%. That should keep your plug wires from burning up. Alias And cause the header to rust out a lot quicker. He said he tried heat shields. What heat shields? Al > It states that it reduces header temp by 70%. That should keep your plug > wires from burning up. > Alias > > And cause the header to rust out a lot quicker. He said he tried heat > shields. What heat shields? Header wrap voids most manufacturers' warranties to begin with. One should consider these types of problems beforehand. SignatureWound Up ThunderSnake #65 > Gdriver: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > It states that it reduces header temp by 70%. That should keep your > plug wires from burning up. Don't use header wrap. An owner of a Sunbeam Tiger with header wrap had a catastrophic engine fire. Valve cover oil leak saturated the wrap which eventually caught on fire. Bye Bye Kitty. Did you try Flame guard from Earl's? Erich >>Gdriver: >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > catastrophic engine fire. Valve cover oil leak saturated the wrap which > eventually caught on fire. Bye Bye Kitty. Yikes, Agent 86 calls the fire brigade! That's a tragic loss... sorry to hear about it. Poor lil Tiger, my sincere condolences!! > Did you try Flame guard from Earl's? > > Erich SignatureWound Up ThunderSnake #65 It was not my car. Just someone I know from an email list. The owner has decided to try and restore the Tiger. Haven't had an update in 6 months or so..... Erich > >>Gdriver: > >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Wound Up > ThunderSnake #65 >> Gdriver: >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Erich Sounds like you learned the wrong lesson. Seems it should have been don't leave your oil leaks unattended to. BTW: I have run header wrap on my hot 351 Cleveland for over 15 years, with no ill effects. >>Sounds like you learned the wrong lesson. Seems it should have been >>don't leave your oil leaks unattended to. I was about to say the same thing. Nice! >>I have run header wrap on my hot 351 Cleveland for over 15 years, with >>no ill effects. Thanks for the vindication there, 351CJ. I get nothing but beat up here whenever I post. It's nice to hear some agreement for once. And on that same topic, a note to the newgroup in general: As I stated when I rejoined this news group a little while ago the tenor of this group has changed drastically, and not for the better. Based upon the kinds of "help" I've seen here of late and all of the flame wars, I think I'm better off just leaving for good; I'm tired of it. I get better advice (and no fricken attitude, BTW) from a local parts shop. Besides, my ride is almost done and as far as I'm concerned...well, maybe that's best left unsaid. Take care all. Alias -----Original Message----- From: 351CJ [mailto:351CJ@msn.com] Posted At: Thursday, August 11, 2005 12:49 AM Posted To: rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang Conversation: Equal length header - burning my plug wires!!!!! Subject: Re: Equal length header - burning my plug wires!!!!! >> Gdriver: >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Erich Sounds like you learned the wrong lesson. Seems it should have been don't leave your oil leaks unattended to. BTW: I have run header wrap on my hot 351 Cleveland for over 15 years, with no ill effects. it should have been don't > leave your oil leaks unattended to. > BTW: I have run header wrap on my hot 351 Cleveland for over 15 years, with > no ill effects. Header wrap looks like Krap. I just had my headers ceramic coated. Does the same job looks good too. You don't always know when you spring a leak. We'll just have to disagree on this topic. Erich >>> Gdriver: >>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > BTW: I have run header wrap on my hot 351 Cleveland for over 15 years, > with no ill effects. We had a low 9 second 85 Corvette with header wrap. Killed the headers in about three seasons. It started knocking one night and after we pulled the valve covers and could not find anything we noticed exhaust was coming out of the wrap. We un-wrapped the header and it was like tin foil. Most of the tubes were rotted off the collector. One tube had about an inch hole in it, and when we touched it, it just caved in. We'll never use it again. BTW, we're in Tucson. Moisture is not a problem here. I have two race cars with ceramic coated headers. Coated inside and out. If you guys think they don't get hot, guess again. They run cooler than un-coated. But they still get very hot. Al > It is only burning the #3 plug wire(at the elbow). Has anyone heard about > the success of shorter plugs?? Think "move the wire" rather than "alter the exhaust or the plug". Really, it's not worth all that trouble, dude. >>>Has anyone experienced an issue with the equal length header burning >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> This is a common problem. Don't re-swap your exhaust because of plug >>wires. SignatureWound Up ThunderSnake #65 Sorry, I misspoke. It is burning the boot on the #3 plug, not the wires. I put a DEI Spark plub wire protectant sleeve on the boot and it still burned through. I have heard that I should use shorty plugs. Comments?? > > It is only burning the #3 plug wire(at the elbow). Has anyone heard about > > the success of shorter plugs?? [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > >> This is a common problem. Don't re-swap your exhaust because of plug > >>wires. > Has anyone experienced an issue with the equal length header burning your > plug wires?? I have a 95 GT and have recently installed some equal length > headers. The only problem is that one of the plug wires is very close to the > header and it is suffering the consequences. I have tried adding a heat > sleeve, but it still burns through it. I don't want to go back to the shorty > headers, but I don't know what to do. One more general comment - I'm just trying to help you know - aftermarket parts NEVER fit like factory (OEM). Just assume you'll have to change something a little in order to make an aftermarket improvement work, and you won't be disappointed. Best of luck SignatureWound Up ThunderSnake #65 > Has anyone experienced an issue with the equal length header burning your > plug wires?? I have a 95 GT and have recently installed some equal length > headers. The only problem is that one of the plug wires is very close to the > header and it is suffering the consequences. I have tried adding a heat > sleeve, but it still burns through it. I don't want to go back to the shorty > headers, but I don't know what to do. GD, I've run EQ shorties on my 5-oh Mustangs for years. And I've had to contend with the same issue. Here's my permanent fix: Simply find a 90-degree boot that fits into that space. (Most auto part stores sell a variety.) Then pull the old boot off the wire and replace it with the new 90-degree boot. Works everytime! If you have any more questions, let me know. Patrick '93 Cobra I had a 90 deg boot and it still burned. The plug is very, very close to the header. The tip of the plug is where the boot is burning. I was thinking about getting shorty plugs and also a 90deg boot and see if that helps. > > Has anyone experienced an issue with the equal length header burning your > > plug wires?? I have a 95 GT and have recently installed some equal length [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Patrick > '93 Cobra |
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