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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / August 2005

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Harmonic Balancer

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Richard - 30 Aug 2005 05:54 GMT
What exactly are the symptoms of the balancer going "south"?  What does one
look for/do to test and/or confirm the integrity of the balancer? Is this a
problem normally encountered in a 11 years old GT?
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larrylass - 30 Aug 2005 15:38 GMT
under acceleration the engine will knock loudly as you accelerate harder.
the balancer is advancing the timing. look for an oil leak in the front seal
area as this deteriorates the rubber in the balancer. eventually this will
lead to the balancer coming apart as it did on my 95 gt

Big lar
> What exactly are the symptoms of the balancer going "south"?  What does
> one
> look for/do to test and/or confirm the integrity of the balancer? Is this
> a
> problem normally encountered in a 11 years old GT?
Richard - 30 Aug 2005 15:59 GMT
I asked the question as I noticed a slight vibration while on a recent long
drive at speed. (you can feel it in the floor pan)  Very slight but
nevertheless there and it appears to be throttle sensitive. Trying to rule
out certain items of the many that could be the cause.

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Gripp Sub Frame Connectors (welded)
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FRPP M5400-A Suspension
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> What exactly are the symptoms of the balancer going "south"?  What does one
> look for/do to test and/or confirm the integrity of the balancer? Is this a
> problem normally encountered in a 11 years old GT?
scromwell2@yahoo.com - 31 Aug 2005 00:09 GMT
You can put matchmarks on the hub and pulley of the damper.  (BTW, on
the 5.0L it's a harmonic damper; the engine is internally balanced.)

If the rubber is deteriorating  you will probably notice the matchmarks
getting further apart as you put mileage on the car.

M dad's '96 GT developed a shake noticeable only on the highway too.
It turned out to be the driveshaft being out of balance.  $120 to
balance and get new U-joints and the car was smooooth after that!

BTW, I notice in your sig that you have under drive pulleys.  Most of
the UDPs I've seen eliminate the rubber-isolated harmonic damper.
David M - 31 Aug 2005 01:08 GMT
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:09:03 -0700, scromwell2 rearranged some electrons
to form:

> BTW, on
> the 5.0L it's a harmonic damper; the engine is internally balanced.)

No, it isn't.
http://www.mustangandfords.com/techarticles/28738/index2.html

among others.

> M dad's '96 GT developed a shake noticeable only on the highway too.
> It turned out to be the driveshaft being out of balance.  $120 to
> balance and get new U-joints and the car was smooooth after that!

Did you break that too while abusing the car?

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scromwell2@yahoo.com - 31 Aug 2005 05:28 GMT
Huh.  I had a Ford truck w/ 302 and it had a plain round damper and
flywheel.  I wonder if they were incorrectly in there?

(BTW, today is the first day I drove my dad's car.  10 years and 125k
miles gave him plenty of time to wear it out.)
Richard - 31 Aug 2005 06:59 GMT
> M dad's '96 GT developed a shake noticeable only on the highway too.
> It turned out to be the driveshaft being out of balance.  $120 to
> balance and get new U-joints and the car was smooooth after that!

New aluminum drive shaft with u-joints installed last year

> BTW, I notice in your sig that you have under drive pulleys.  Most of
> the UDPs I've seen eliminate the rubber-isolated harmonic damper.

UDP's have been on the car for 4 years.

I'm beginning to think that maybe it's not driveline related. As I've only
had the car for 4 years and the mufflers are stock,I'm now wondering if the
vibration could be comimg from a muffler whose inards are coming apart. I've
had to weld the tail pipes back on twice (one each side) this past year.

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Under Drive Pulleys
Transgo HD2  Reprogramming Kit
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4:10 Gears
Gripp Sub Frame Connectors (welded)
FRPP Aluminum Drive shaft
FRPP M5400-A Suspension
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