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Rich - 08 Sep 2005 01:54 GMT
So, oil is down to about $64/barrel, and the last time it was
that price, gasoline was $3.25/gallon (U.S./U.S.gals) in Canada.
Now, it's still near $5.  The oil companies are RAKING it in
as are the refiners.
Michael Johnson, PE - 08 Sep 2005 05:02 GMT
> So, oil is down to about $64/barrel, and the last time it was
> that price, gasoline was $3.25/gallon (U.S./U.S.gals) in Canada.
> Now, it's still near $5.  The oil companies are RAKING it in
> as are the refiners.

Right now we could be swimming in crude oil and it wouldn't effect the
price, IMO.  It is the lack of refining capacity and gasoline storage
space that is causing the high prices.  The price won't fall appreciably
until we increase refining/storage capacity.
John - 08 Sep 2005 05:09 GMT
>> So, oil is down to about $64/barrel, and the last time it was
>> that price, gasoline was $3.25/gallon (U.S./U.S.gals) in Canada.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> space that is causing the high prices.  The price won't fall appreciably
> until we increase refining/storage capacity.

or decrease demand or both.

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Michael Johnson, PE - 08 Sep 2005 05:16 GMT
>>>So, oil is down to about $64/barrel, and the last time it was
>>>that price, gasoline was $3.25/gallon (U.S./U.S.gals) in Canada.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> or decrease demand or both.

Yup.
Joe - 08 Sep 2005 12:16 GMT
>>>>So, oil is down to about $64/barrel, and the last time it was
>>>>that price, gasoline was $3.25/gallon (U.S./U.S.gals) in Canada.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Yup.

Actually, this morning's paper indicated that demand was indeed down
due to (a) how expensive it's getting and (b) efforts to curtail
energy usage.
Michael Johnson, PE - 08 Sep 2005 16:45 GMT
>>>>>So, oil is down to about $64/barrel, and the last time it was
>>>>>that price, gasoline was $3.25/gallon (U.S./U.S.gals) in Canada.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> due to (a) how expensive it's getting and (b) efforts to curtail
> energy usage.

Since I work from home I don't use much but my wife and I have made a
conscious effort to reduce our gas usage.  She called our son last
weekend to ask what he was up to and he said "Nothing, because I can't
afford to drive anywhere". :)
dwight - 09 Sep 2005 01:44 GMT
> Actually, this morning's paper indicated that demand was indeed down
> due to (a) how expensive it's getting and (b) efforts to curtail
> energy usage.

It's because I'm doing a lot more coasting now, instead of leaving the trans
in gear.

And I skip 2nd gear when I start up.

I averaged over 20mpg on my last tank. TFrog hasn't seen that number in
years.

:()
Rich - 09 Sep 2005 02:22 GMT
>>>>So, oil is down to about $64/barrel, and the last time it was
>>>>that price, gasoline was $3.25/gallon (U.S./U.S.gals) in Canada.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>Yup.

If you think holding off on consumption will drop prices
by any appreciable amount, you are wrong.  The oil companies
have certain fixed costs that won't allow it, nor will they.
They do not reward those who don't buy, they punish those who
do.
-Rich
Michael Johnson, PE - 09 Sep 2005 04:52 GMT
>>>>>So, oil is down to about $64/barrel, and the last time it was
>>>>>that price, gasoline was $3.25/gallon (U.S./U.S.gals) in Canada.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> They do not reward those who don't buy, they punish those who
> do.

If demand drops then competition will increase between suppliers and the
price will drop.  It is the way things work in our economy.  It would
start with the price of a barrel of oil and go from there to the pump.
Spike - 09 Sep 2005 20:26 GMT
Ahhhh, sweet memories of the days when suppliers were pushing
everything they had to get people to consume. Gas wars with stations
fighting for customers by trying to undersell the competition. The
days when you actually got full service, with savings stamps, and
dishware/silverware/glassware/etc. The year was 1970, and in Seattle
region, gas was going for as low as 35 cents a gallon for "high test"

Spike
1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok
Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior; Vintage 40
16" rims w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A gForce Radial
225/50ZR16 KDWS skins; surround sound audio-video.

Gad what fools these morons be....
Children are obscene but should not be heard
Give me a peperoni pizza... or give me a calzone!
Rich - 09 Sep 2005 21:32 GMT
>>>>>>So, oil is down to about $64/barrel, and the last time it was
>>>>>>that price, gasoline was $3.25/gallon (U.S./U.S.gals) in Canada.
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>price will drop.  It is the way things work in our economy.  It would
>start with the price of a barrel of oil and go from there to the pump.

Really? Then how come, at the height of the Mad Cow scare, when beef
purchases from Alberta were at an all time low, did we see (in the
East) prices anywhere from $17 to $40 a kilo for top grade steak?
-Rich
Michael Johnson, PE - 09 Sep 2005 22:22 GMT
>>>>>>>So, oil is down to about $64/barrel, and the last time it was
>>>>>>>that price, gasoline was $3.25/gallon (U.S./U.S.gals) in Canada.
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> purchases from Alberta were at an all time low, did we see (in the
> East) prices anywhere from $17 to $40 a kilo for top grade steak?

I'm not up on what is a good price for a slab of red meat.  If you're
saying the price didn't raise when supply dropped then I would say the
supply didn't drop enough to effect price.  If you're talking about
prices in Canada then it is hard to tell what is going on because up
there the government screws with the free market process way more than
here in the good old USA.
WindsorFox[SS] - 09 Sep 2005 22:56 GMT
> I'm not up on what is a good price for a slab of red meat.  If you're
> saying the price didn't raise when supply dropped then I would say the
> supply didn't drop enough to effect price.  If you're talking about
> prices in Canada then it is hard to tell what is going on because up
> there the government screws with the free market process way more than
> here in the good old USA.

   I may duck and run, but I paid $2.49 this morning...

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Michael Johnson, PE - 09 Sep 2005 23:12 GMT
>> I'm not up on what is a good price for a slab of red meat.  If you're
>> saying the price didn't raise when supply dropped then I would say the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>    I may duck and run, but I paid $2.49 this morning...

Even though a kilo is 2.2 lbs those prices seem high but like I said I
don't pay that much attention when grocery shopping.
WindsorFox[SS] - 10 Sep 2005 20:54 GMT
>>> I'm not up on what is a good price for a slab of red meat.  If you're
>>> saying the price didn't raise when supply dropped then I would say
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Even though a kilo is 2.2 lbs those prices seem high but like I said I
> don't pay that much attention when grocery shopping.

    Wait, let me clarify. I paid $2.49 per gallon for gas that morning...

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Michael Johnson, PE - 10 Sep 2005 22:20 GMT
>>>> I'm not up on what is a good price for a slab of red meat.  If
>>>> you're saying the price didn't raise when supply dropped then I
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>     Wait, let me clarify. I paid $2.49 per gallon for gas that morning...

That's pretty good.
Ritz - 10 Sep 2005 22:55 GMT
>>     Wait, let me clarify. I paid $2.49 per gallon for gas that morning...
>
> That's pretty good.

The best I've seen here in CT and NY the last couple of days is $2.99
for regular.  Most stations are still well over $3.  Filling up my A6
the other day was almost $60.  Sigh....
Michael Johnson, PE - 10 Sep 2005 23:26 GMT
>>>     Wait, let me clarify. I paid $2.49 per gallon for gas that
>>> morning...
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> for regular.  Most stations are still well over $3.  Filling up my A6
> the other day was almost $60.  Sigh....

That's about what it is for my Explorer.  Good thing is I only do it
about once every two weeks.
Spike - 11 Sep 2005 00:18 GMT
Which is nothing compared to the price of beef in Japan....

>> I'm not up on what is a good price for a slab of red meat.  If you're
>> saying the price didn't raise when supply dropped then I would say the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>    I may duck and run, but I paid $2.49 this morning...

Spike
1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok
Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior; Vintage 40
16" rims w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A gForce Radial
225/50ZR16 KDWS skins; surround sound audio-video.

Gad what fools these morons be....
Children are obscene but should not be heard
Give me a peperoni pizza... or give me a calzone!
Michael Johnson, PE - 11 Sep 2005 01:35 GMT
Or about any other food item.

> Which is nothing compared to the price of beef in Japan....
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Children are obscene but should not be heard
> Give me a peperoni pizza... or give me a calzone!
Ritz - 11 Sep 2005 01:52 GMT
Actually, food in Japan isn't expensive.  The highest end luxury items
are expensive (like Kobe beef or bottles of Bordeaux or "imported"
foreign stuff), but everyday fare is reasonable.  I remember when I
lived in Tokyo for a while you could get lunch for a dollar or two, but
that was for a traditional noodle lunch.  If you wanted Mickey Dees or
KFC, it was about $15-20.

Cheers,

> Or about any other food item.
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>>>
>>>   I may duck and run, but I paid $2.49 this morning...
Michael Johnson, PE - 11 Sep 2005 02:51 GMT
How about cantalopes?

> Actually, food in Japan isn't expensive.  The highest end luxury items
> are expensive (like Kobe beef or bottles of Bordeaux or "imported"
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>>>>
>>>>   I may duck and run, but I paid $2.49 this morning...
Spike - 11 Sep 2005 05:49 GMT
Actually, I found many things which were cheap. For example, for what
we pay for a bag of beef jerky, I could buy 3 bags of the Japanese
equivalent... dried baby squid... in teriyaki, spicey red pepper, BBQ
flavors. I could get an entire lobster dinner for about $7. As long as
you stay away from the touristy places, and stay away from the
American places, like McDucks, KFC, Dominoes Pizza, etc.  It was
pretty much that way everywhere I went. Oh, and stay away from
American brands when you go to the markets.

>Or about any other food item.
>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>> Children are obscene but should not be heard
>> Give me a peperoni pizza... or give me a calzone!

Spike
1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok
Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior; Vintage 40
16" rims w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A gForce Radial
225/50ZR16 KDWS skins; surround sound audio-video.

Gad what fools these morons be....
Children are obscene but should not be heard
Give me a peperoni pizza... or give me a calzone!
Spike - 09 Sep 2005 00:51 GMT
We could easily do that.... if we just do away with people... after
all, animals, for the most part, don't drive yet, and they wear
fur.... : 0 )

>>> So, oil is down to about $64/barrel, and the last time it was
>>> that price, gasoline was $3.25/gallon (U.S./U.S.gals) in Canada.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>or decrease demand or both.

Spike
1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok
Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior; Vintage 40
16" rims w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A gForce Radial
225/50ZR16 KDWS skins; surround sound audio-video.

Gad what fools these morons be....
Children are obscene but should not be heard
Give me a peperoni pizza... or give me a calzone!
fordman3@hotmail.com - 08 Sep 2005 23:19 GMT
>> So, oil is down to about $64/barrel, and the last time it was
>> that price, gasoline was $3.25/gallon (U.S./U.S.gals) in Canada.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>space that is causing the high prices.  The price won't fall appreciably
>until we increase refining/storage capacity.

lmfao
no shortage in alberta

blame martin for raking it in
its tax
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Michael Johnson, PE - 08 Sep 2005 23:29 GMT
foad

>>>So, oil is down to about $64/barrel, and the last time it was
>>>that price, gasoline was $3.25/gallon (U.S./U.S.gals) in Canada.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> s
> t
trotzo - 09 Sep 2005 00:42 GMT
3.25 a gal here in Greenwich Ct, with some pumps as high as 3.49
I think I'll start ridin' my motorsickle more. At least I get decent
gas mileage with that...

> foad
>
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> > s
> > t
Rich - 09 Sep 2005 21:30 GMT
>3.25 a gal here in Greenwich Ct, with some pumps as high as 3.49
>I think I'll start ridin' my motorsickle more. At least I get decent
>gas mileage with that...

How is it in a foot of snow?
-Rich
WindsorFox[SS] - 09 Sep 2005 22:55 GMT
>>3.25 a gal here in Greenwich Ct, with some pumps as high as 3.49
>>I think I'll start ridin' my motorsickle more. At least I get decent
>>gas mileage with that...
>
> How is it in a foot of snow?
> -Rich

    The word "nippy" comes to mind....

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trotzo - 09 Sep 2005 23:32 GMT
LOL.. No better than my rear wheel drive GT

> >3.25 a gal here in Greenwich Ct, with some pumps as high as 3.49
> >I think I'll start ridin' my motorsickle more. At least I get decent
> >gas mileage with that...
> >
> How is it in a foot of snow?
> -Rich
Backyard Mechanic - 08 Sep 2005 21:40 GMT
Rich <none@none.com> wrote in news:cq2vh19sqqbjtj8hjh404i30kubt9670ra@
4ax.com:

> So, oil is down to about $64/barrel, and the last time it was
> that price, gasoline was $3.25/gallon (U.S./U.S.gals) in Canada.
> Now, it's still near $5.  The oil companies are RAKING it in
> as are the refiners.

Right now it's 2.99 generally in central ohio, 2.92 locally.

Perhaps your canadian wholesalers are on the wrong gulf pipelines.

Perhaps a talk with mr chavez....
 
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