Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us
Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network
HomeAnnouncements
Discussion Groups
By Brand
BMWChevroletDodgeFordGMHondaLexusMercedes-BenzNissanPeugeotToyotaVolkswagenOther Brands
By Topic
4x4 CarsRVsDrivingMaintenance & RepairCar AudioCollectible Cars
Country Specific
Australian ForumsUK Forums
ArticlesAuto InsuranceBuyingCars & TechnologyMaintenanceMiscellaneousSafety
DMV Resources
Related Topics
MotorcyclesBoatsMore Topics ...

Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / September 2005

Tip: Looking for answers? Try searching our database.

Runt mobile

Thread view: 
Enable EMail Alerts  Start New Thread
Thread rating: 
Rich - 10 Sep 2005 23:01 GMT
http://www.pbase.com/andersonrm/image/49041445&exif=N
SVTKate - 11 Sep 2005 00:23 GMT
That is an interesting little beast.
Prolly gets 50 mpg, but man oh man, it would suck when the clowns come
pouring out!

Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty

: http://www.pbase.com/andersonrm/image/49041445&exif=N 
WindsorFox[SS] - 11 Sep 2005 00:35 GMT
> http://www.pbase.com/andersonrm/image/49041445&exif=N

   You know, if that got rearended by an F250 while sitting behind
anothger full size... anything, it would be a blood pancake.

Signature

"Gullible is a misdemeanor - stupid is a felony...
clueless gets you committed..."  -  JG

Michael Johnson, PE - 11 Sep 2005 01:37 GMT
>> http://www.pbase.com/andersonrm/image/49041445&exif=N
>
>    You know, if that got rearended by an F250 while sitting behind
> anothger full size... anything, it would be a blood pancake.

Maybe it is meant to be hosed off and used as a casket at that point.
BradandBrooks - 11 Sep 2005 07:42 GMT
>>> http://www.pbase.com/andersonrm/image/49041445&exif=N
>>
>>    You know, if that got rearended by an F250 while sitting behind
>> anothger full size... anything, it would be a blood pancake.
>
> Maybe it is meant to be hosed off and used as a casket at that point.

Gotta admit, you guys are pretty witty somedays.  :)

Up here in Calgary, these cars are becoming pretty popular. They ARE small
but as a commute car, traffic never gets going anyway.

Brad
Michael Johnson, PE - 11 Sep 2005 16:24 GMT
>>>>http://www.pbase.com/andersonrm/image/49041445&exif=N
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Up here in Calgary, these cars are becoming pretty popular. They ARE small
> but as a commute car, traffic never gets going anyway.

I can see where one of these type of cars could be very useful.  It
could be used as a supplement to a larger car, SUV or truck when you
don't need to drive something so big.  Give it a folding top so it can
be open on sunny days and I bet it would sell here too.  What is the
price for them up there?
ZombyWoof - 11 Sep 2005 17:23 GMT
>>>>>http://www.pbase.com/andersonrm/image/49041445&exif=N
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>be open on sunny days and I bet it would sell here too.  What is the
>price for them up there?

There is a company called Zap that have gotten them certified for the
US Market and are establishing a dealer network.  They were at the CES
show back in January looking for investors.  They have a website up &
running at http://www.zapworld.com/cars/smartCar.asp on the U.S. spec
version.  The only major problem with it is it after importation &
conversion the damn thing is expensive as hell.  Depending on exchange
rates and the model anywhere from $15,000 - $25,000.  Oh and they do
have  a Roadster version that looks sharper them hell, but I don't
think it is being imported.  A picture here http://tinyurl.com/ctybh
Signature

Zombywoof

Si vis Pacem, Para bellum

WindsorFox[SS] - 11 Sep 2005 18:27 GMT
> There is a company called Zap that have gotten them certified for the
> US Market and are establishing a dealer network.  They were at the CES
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> have  a Roadster version that looks sharper them hell, but I don't
> think it is being imported.  A picture here http://tinyurl.com/ctybh

   Well that's just stupid. It's made by Daimler-Chrysler, why not just
put "PLYMOUTH" on the front and sell them from the side building at
Chrysler dealers....

Signature

"Gullible is a misdemeanor - stupid is a felony...
clueless gets you committed..."  -  JG

ZombyWoof - 12 Sep 2005 03:41 GMT
>> There is a company called Zap that have gotten them certified for the
>> US Market and are establishing a dealer network.  They were at the CES
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>put "PLYMOUTH" on the front and sell them from the side building at
>Chrysler dealers....

Because Daimler never really had any intention of bringing them to the
states.  I guess their research showed that they would sell real well
here.  However, with gas reaching European price levels they just
might rethink that process.
Signature

Zombywoof

Si vis Pacem, Para bellum

Michael Johnson, PE - 12 Sep 2005 03:28 GMT
>>>>>>http://www.pbase.com/andersonrm/image/49041445&exif=N
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> have  a Roadster version that looks sharper them hell, but I don't
> think it is being imported.  A picture here http://tinyurl.com/ctybh

I like the roadster.  Too bad they are so expensive.  They just might
sell fairly well here at the right price.
ZombyWoof - 12 Sep 2005 03:45 GMT
>>>>>>>http://www.pbase.com/andersonrm/image/49041445&exif=N
>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>I like the roadster.  Too bad they are so expensive.  They just might
>sell fairly well here at the right price.

They really haven't done as well as Daimler expected them to do.  Most
sources say they are losing their a.s on them.

I spent quite a bit of time talking with the Zap representative about
them and what they have had to go through to get them certified for
here in the states.  It was a really expensive process.  The
conversions that they have to go through along with the strength of
the Euro verses the dollar right now makes it a very expensive little
toy.  However, as the prices of gas continue to skyrocket perhaps more
people will begin looking for alternatives to SUVs for commuting
purposes.
Signature

Zombywoof

Si vis Pacem, Para bellum

Big Al - 12 Sep 2005 00:24 GMT
>>>>>http://www.pbase.com/andersonrm/image/49041445&exif=N
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> sunny days and I bet it would sell here too.  What is the price for them
> up there?

In Europ they have a neat convertable top. You can open the front, rear or
put the top down. Top opens or closes from the keyless remote too.

http://www.carenthusiast.com/20030317_roadtest_smartcabrio.html

Al
BradandBrooks - 12 Sep 2005 05:59 GMT
>>>>>http://www.pbase.com/andersonrm/image/49041445&exif=N
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> sunny days and I bet it would sell here too.  What is the price for them
> up there?

I think they start at $17K CDN (so about $13K US). But make it a drop top
and add some options and it goes over $23K pretty fast (so maybe $17K US).
But they do get 60mpg or so on the highway.

Build your own here http://www.thesmart.ca/index.cfm?ID=4720

Brad
Big Al - 11 Sep 2005 07:06 GMT
>> http://www.pbase.com/andersonrm/image/49041445&exif=N
>
>    You know, if that got rearended by an F250 while sitting behind
> anothger full size... anything, it would be a blood pancake.

Just like an F-250 that was hit by an 18 wheeler while sitting behind a
garbage truck:) Some day we all might be driving tiny cars and riding 50 CC
scooters, like they do in Europe now. Just let gas get up to $5.00 a gallon
and stay there a while. I put $75 worth of regular in my pickup the other
day and decided to stop before I got sick. If my truck was empty and gas was
$3.00 a gallon, I could put over $110 in it. That's sick!

Al
one80out@hotmail.com - 12 Sep 2005 23:32 GMT
.
> Just like an F-250 that was hit by an 18 wheeler while
> sitting behind a garbage truck.
.
>From your link:

Performance
Max speed (mph): 85mph.
0-62.5 mph (seconds): 16.8 (Softip) / 17.1 (Softouch)

Forget about stopped behind a garbage truck. The 18 wheeler might be
able to run down the Smart under all out acceleration.

Remember when the yardstick for used cars was, "starts and runs, $50"?
Now the gas in the tank is worth more than that.

Remember when you could cruise your bigblock car all night long for $5?
I don't even like to drive my old heaps anymore.  Thinking about that
$15-20 going out the tailpipe every 60 minutes takes all the fun out of
it.

180 Out
trotzo - 13 Sep 2005 00:03 GMT
Thinking about that
> $15-20 going out the tailpipe every 60 minutes takes all the fun out of
> it.
Gas is so high I'm thinking about trading in my GT for a Yugo.....
Mort Guffman - 11 Sep 2005 03:17 GMT
I actually like it a lot. I would drive that. I wouldn't give up my
real car though.

mort

>http://www.pbase.com/andersonrm/image/49041445&exif=N
Big Al - 11 Sep 2005 07:00 GMT
>I actually like it a lot. I would drive that. I wouldn't give up my
> real car though.
>
> mort
>
>>http://www.pbase.com/andersonrm/image/49041445&exif=N

I rented two while in Italy last year. They are very comfortable inside. One
was a gas burner the other a turbo Diesel. Got 53 MPG on tilt on the
Autostrada. Tilt is about 85 MPH, but it seems like a hundred:) They have a
very interesting transmission. It's a manual with a computer controlled
clutch, no pedal. The gas job would even shift by itself. The gas gauge is 4
LED's. Full, 3/4, half and 1/4. Under that the odometer changes to
Kilometers to empty and the gas gauge starts over at 1/4 as full. The car is
loaded with features. Even the radio is way out. The manual for the radio
was a thick as the manual for the car. I looked for the engine for a long
time before I found it. It's right under the rear hatch latch, stuffed in an
impossible space. A little 699 CC three cylinder. (Gas.) I was very
impressed by them, and if anyone is interested I have some pictures:)

Al
IsellJeeps - 12 Sep 2005 15:13 GMT
its the new smart car

> http://www.pbase.com/andersonrm/image/49041445&exif=N
 
Sign In
Join
My Latest Posts
My Monitored Threads
My Blog
My Photo Gallery
My Profile
My Homepage

Start New Thread
Enable EMail Alerts
Rate this Thread



©2008 Advenet LLC   Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.