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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / September 2005

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New type of brakes??

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Rich - 28 Sep 2005 04:04 GMT
http://www.physorg.com/news6781.html

With its EWB (Electronic Wedge Brake), Siemens is aiming for a
revolution in braking system technology for passenger cars. Compared
to today’s hydraulic brakes, the EWB is more efficient, responds
faster, requires far less energy, reduces a vehicle’s weight and saves
space. At the International Motor Show (IAA) in Frankfurt (the show
runs until September 26), automotive supplier Siemens VDO announced
its entry into this multi-billion-euro market. Before the end of this
year, the company wants to make the EWB available in a test vehicle.

The electronic wedge brake works by a similar principle to that used
in brakes for horse-drawn carriages, where a wedge was used to bring
the wheel to a standstill. The EWB, however, relies on sophisticated
sensor technology and electronics to prevent the brakes from locking
and ensure highly efficient and controlled braking (see the following
report). The wedge uses a vehicle’s kinetic energy, converting it into
braking energy. By reinforcing itself this way, the EWB needs only one
tenth of the actuating energy required by today's hydraulic braking
systems. Given this superior efficiency, the EWB will also have
smaller dimensions, which will reduce total vehicle weight. What’s
more, the EWB will dispense with the need for brake lines, a
servo-unit and a brake fluid reservoir. This will free up a volume of
about 22 liters in the engine compartment, giving vehicle designers
additional scope.

Likewise, the nearly ubiquitous antilock braking systems (ABS) and the
less common electronic stability programs will be replaced by the
software integrated into the EWB system. Plans call for a new
algorithm to take on these functions, enabling the EWB to react faster
than ABS systems. While a conventional ABS takes between 140 and 170
milliseconds to generate full braking power, the EWB needs only about
100 milliseconds and therefore shortens the braking distance because a
car covers the distance of 1.40 meters in one second at a speed of 100
kilometers per hour. This also means the wedge brake will play an
important role in making it possible for drivers to keep vehicles
under control even in difficult situations.

And the principle behind the electronic wedge brake isn’t only
suitable for use in passenger cars: Trucks and trailers also could be
equipped with the EWB. Today’s wedge technology can be used to brake
virtually any spinning object. Possible applications include systems
for elevators, high-speed trains, and for motors used in automation
and conveyance technologies.

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Big Al - 28 Sep 2005 05:24 GMT
> The wedge uses a vehicle's kinetic energy, converting it into
> braking energy.

Just like a drum brake.
Brent P - 28 Sep 2005 06:03 GMT
>> The wedge uses a vehicle's kinetic energy, converting it into
>> braking energy.
>
> Just like a drum brake.

Exactly what I was going to say. Like the self-energizing drum brake.

It is still a friction brake, just a different mechanical design and uses
electric actuation.

Now magnetic brakes for an automotive application would really be
something. Never replace brake pads again!
Joe - 28 Sep 2005 12:08 GMT
>>> The wedge uses a vehicle's kinetic energy, converting it into
>>> braking energy.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Now magnetic brakes for an automotive application would really be
> something. Never replace brake pads again!

It's still pretty cool in that it dumps the whole hydraulic system as
well as the parking brake.  Read on:
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1859510,00.asp
Backyard Mechanic - 28 Sep 2005 13:36 GMT
Rich <none@none.com> wrote in news:102kj1drlksogpa68v4vg1o0ev0o38ab4d@
4ax.com:

> http://www.physorg.com/news6781.html

Sorry.... I aint buying it...I have no doubt this is in the works but I
aint holding my breath...

For one thing, I would have liked to see the (e-week) Slideshow actually
give SOME idea of how it worked.  I make out some "rollers-in-slots" which
implies that the inner pad moves rotationally in relation to the outer pad.

(For another the Eweek article references a slideshow on Siemems which
apparently is hidden, and the brake is not mentioned at all in hteir
automotive technology index)

"Wedge" ... anyone who has experimented with 'wedge' motion stopping knows
the obvious problem to be solved.  In fact the wedge brake did not work
well on the wagon wheel, long term.   Look at any studebaker or conestoga
type wagon and you'll see the levered shoe system.

"Reduces weight" - how MUCH weight?  I see a caliper there... are we to
assume that, somehow, the caliper is lighter?  
How much does a booster and master cylinder weigh?

And braking forces produce an exact amount of bleed-heat, which is
independent of the technology used.

This PR crap brings to mind the 'space-age ceramic engine block' hype of a
few decades ago... wonder how that's coming?

Not to mention the Wonder-Wankel.... 'higher efficiency, less polluting' we
all heard about, before it hit production.

I'll believe it when I see it on their F1 cars.... WITHOUT a conventional
system to back it up.

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