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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / September 2005

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Dead battery, then smoking wires after jump attempt

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chron78@yahoo.com - 28 Sep 2005 23:42 GMT
I have a 92 LX 5.0 notchback, and I got into the car today and it
wouldn't start (engine would barely click).  Radio and lights looked
fine, but figured it was a weak battery.  I tried jumping it but the
engine would turn very slowly and would not start.  Tried to jump again
with a car that had a heavy-duty battery, and some smoke starting
coming out of one of the wires that's attached to the side of the
engine compartment.  I guess this a solenoid or something?  The battery
connects to this box on the side, then smaller wires come from the box
and go underneath.

Anyway the smoke was bad enough I thought it was going to catch fire.
After getting back in my car I noticed the engine won't even click now
when I try to start it and the radio is dead.  I assume something got
fried, but I'm not sure.  Any suggestions on what that wire may be and
what I have to fix?

thanks
Backyard Mechanic - 29 Sep 2005 02:36 GMT
Two possibilities...

A shorted starter winding.  Will cause the deadening slow cranking.

and/or

You had a bad wire/terminal crimp connection in that wire.  You are going
to have to replace that wiring that smoked, whatever.

OR you had both; a low batt and that wire crimp was bad

Test for a bad connection/battery, BTW, is to watch the lights WHILE
cranking.

chron78@yahoo.com wrote in news:1127947332.106394.284070
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> I have a 92 LX 5.0 notchback, and I got into the car today and it
> wouldn't start (engine would barely click).  Radio and lights looked
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> thanks
chron78@yahoo.com - 29 Sep 2005 17:14 GMT
Thanks for the replies.  I got the car started by popping the clutch
and it ran fine but the battery was not charging.  Installed a new
battery and so far so good.

The wire that was smoking looks like it might be ok, except for the
rubber that burnt off.  Probably got too hot.  The jumper cables also
got very hot while trying to jump the car, even though everything was
connected correctly.  Seems a mystery why the wires were overheating..
Maybe something to do with the bad battery.
Backyard Mechanic - 29 Sep 2005 17:26 GMT
chron78@yahoo.com wrote in news:1128010446.086321.46470
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

> Thanks for the replies.  I got the car started by popping the clutch
> and it ran fine but the battery was not charging.  Installed a new
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> connected correctly.  Seems a mystery why the wires were overheating..
> Maybe something to do with the bad battery.

Whatever... that COULD be right, of course... but anyone who knows anything
about Electricity Wiring will tell you that cable is NOW subpar and at some
time in the future give you problems.

Better keep a close eye on it and your voltmeter.
cprice@here.com - 29 Sep 2005 06:20 GMT
    Time to get out your multimeter and trace your wiring harness. You
probably have a burnt out 'fusible link'. I've done exactly the same
thing, except my problem was stupidly jumpstarting to the wrong battery
terminals (+ to - and - to +) on my 86 beater. It was dark outside and I
thot it was right. Anyways about 10 minutes of tracing wires and I found
my dead fusible link. A few hours later of cutting back the wrapping,
seperating and cleaning the wiring harness and replaceing the fusible
link and I was set. You'll need to buy a length of fusible link and
solder it in (dont forget heat shrink wrap) place of the toasted one.

> I have a 92 LX 5.0 notchback, and I got into the car today and it
> wouldn't start (engine would barely click).  Radio and lights looked
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> thanks
Spike - 29 Sep 2005 19:55 GMT
>I have a 92 LX 5.0 notchback, and I got into the car today and it
>wouldn't start (engine would barely click).  Radio and lights looked
>fine, but figured it was a weak battery.  I tried jumping it but the
>engine would turn very slowly and would not start.

Similar condition, but it wouldn't start by jumping until the battery
was brought up far enough...  

>Tried to jump again with a car that had a heavy-duty battery, and some smoke starting
>coming out of one of the wires that's attached to the side of the
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>thanks

Spike
1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok
Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior; Vintage 40
16" rims w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A gForce Radial
225/50ZR16 KDWS skins; surround sound audio-video.

Gad what fools these morons be....
Children are obscene but should not be heard
Give me a peperoni pizza... or give me a calzone!
66 6F HCS - 30 Sep 2005 04:01 GMT
Sounds like maybe you had the wires backwards going onto your car and fried
the starter solenoid.
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'66 HCS Mustang 289
'68 Ranchero 500 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
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