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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / October 2005

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Rich - 24 Oct 2005 04:29 GMT
In 1970.

DODGE CHARGER DAYTONA

SPECIFICATIONS

TOP SPEED
200 mph (320 km/h)
0-60 mph (0-96 KM/H)    
4.3 sec

ENGINE TYPE    

V8
DISPLACEMENT    
426 ci (6,997 cc)

TRANSMISSION    
4-speed manual
MAXIMUM POWER    
556 bhp (415 kW) @ 6.000 rpm
MAXIMUM TORQUE    
497 lb ft (674 Nm) @ 5,400 rpm
WEIGHT    
3,100 lb (1,409 kg)

KJ.Kate - 24 Oct 2005 12:55 GMT
Yea Rich THAT's on topic.....

: In 1970.
:
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: WEIGHT
: 3,100 lb (1,409 kg)
michaelanderson4@sympatico.ca - 24 Oct 2005 17:47 GMT
As was your response.
one80out@hotmail.com - 24 Oct 2005 18:07 GMT
That must be the full-fledge NASCAR version, because no stock Charger
ever came close to any of those numbers -- except maybe the 4-spd
manual part.  HP more like 380 SAE net, torque about 425 lb-ft, 0-60
about 6.0, top speed 150 (a verrrry unpleasant 150), weight 3,900.

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Rich - 25 Oct 2005 01:43 GMT
>That must be the full-fledge NASCAR version, because no stock Charger
>ever came close to any of those numbers -- except maybe the 4-spd
>manual part.  HP more like 380 SAE net, torque about 425 lb-ft, 0-60
>about 6.0, top speed 150 (a verrrry unpleasant 150), weight 3,900.
>
>180 Out

Apparently, all you needed was the "race" Hemi which had been
available as an option for several years.  Cross-ram, 12.5:1
compression.  Since the normal Hemi was way underrated at 425hp,
it's reasonable to assume the race was producing near 600.
Don't forget;  The specially-prepped but dealer-avaiable Dart in 1960
could turn high 10s in the quarter with the race Hemi.  
Not many cars now under $300k that can do that.
-Rich
one80out@hotmail.com - 25 Oct 2005 05:14 GMT
> >That must be the full-fledge NASCAR version, because no stock Charger
> >ever came close to any of those numbers -- except maybe the 4-spd
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> could turn high 10s in the quarter with the race Hemi.
> Not many cars now under $300k that can do that.

I've never heard of the "race hemi" option for a '69 Charger Daytona.
Regarding the 426/425 hp "street hemi," according to something I posted
to alt.hi-po-big-block-ford-mercury a few years back, that engine had
about 411 flywheel horsepower.  Here's my edited version of that post:

"The Hemi had a 10.25:1 CR, 2.25/1/94 cross-flow heads, dual quads,
famously low-restriction mufflers, and Mopar-style "factory header"
exhaust manifolds.  The solid lifter cam had 276 deg advertised
duration, 60 deg overlap, and .467/.473 lift.  This combination was
advertised at 425 hp @ 5000, 490 ft-lbs 4000.   (See
http://www.users.qwest.net/~pbarring/specs.htm .)

"A '69 Hemi RR weighs 3880 lbs.  (See Motor Trend's '69 Car of the Year
story, as quoted at http://www.hotrodder.com/nick/rrhistory.htm .) Back
in the day, Car Life magazine got a 4.10:1 Super Track Pack Hemi RR to
trap at 104.  (See http://www.hotrodder.com/nick/rrhistory.htm .)
Assuming a 17% drivetrain loss, a 3880 lb car requires 341 rwhp, 411
fwhp, to trap at 104 mph (using the formulas rwhp = weight * (mph /
234)^3 and fwhp = rwhp/.83)."

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Rich - 25 Oct 2005 23:35 GMT
>> >That must be the full-fledge NASCAR version, because no stock Charger
>> >ever came close to any of those numbers -- except maybe the 4-spd
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>
>180 Out

Yes, that was the standard hemi engine, the "street hemi."
In-line manifold, not cross ram, lower compression, some lesser
quality internals.
Sorry, make that 1968 Dart, not 1960.  But the race hemi had been
available (as far as I know) since 1964.
-Rich
KJ.Kate - 24 Oct 2005 21:51 GMT
whatever....

: As was your response.
Spike - 24 Oct 2005 22:11 GMT
>As was your response.
I must be hung over or something, 'cause I really didn't understand
your response. If the NG is about Mustangs, and Rich posts a
description of a Dodge, then someone points out it has nothing to do
with Mustangs... how is that OT? I think I need some Excedrin.... and
lots of coffee... LOL: 0 )
Spike
1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy
w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok;
Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich
gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound
audio-video...
See my ride at....
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg
Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg
Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg
KJ.Kate - 24 Oct 2005 22:17 GMT
C'mere hon, I'l fix you a cuppa coffee....
maybe I'll even "Spike" it
LOL

K.

: >As was your response.
: I must be hung over or something, 'cause I really didn't understand
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: Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg
: Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg 
Spike - 24 Oct 2005 23:33 GMT
>C'mere hon, I'l fix you a cuppa coffee....
>maybe I'll even "Spike" it
>LOL
>
>K.

hahahahahahahahaaha ouch!: 0 )

Spike
1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy
w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok;
Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich
gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound
audio-video...
See my ride at....
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg
Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg
Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg
 
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