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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / November 2005

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Head bolt sheared -- how to get out

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Lloyd Cimprich - 29 Oct 2005 02:18 GMT
I finally got a socket to fit the head bolts on my 1990 2.3 Mustang but one
of the bolts sheared. There is about 1/2" protuding above block and I am
looking for advice from those who have done this before.

Thanks.
Ritz - 29 Oct 2005 02:35 GMT
> I finally got a socket to fit the head bolts on my 1990 2.3 Mustang but one
> of the bolts sheared. There is about 1/2" protuding above block and I am
> looking for advice from those who have done this before.

Ugh....This is why I normally use an impact gun on them when I can.  It
seems to reduce the incidence of snapping the heads off of bolts.  Douse
the protruding stud in PB Blaster or WD-40 and let it sit overnight. Use
a stud extractor on it to remove it from the block.  Get a new set of
head bolts from your local stealership.  What did the valves look like?

Cheers,
Lloyd Cimprich - 29 Oct 2005 03:56 GMT
I thought to try the my impact wrench but did not have an impact socket.

It was dark out but all the valves looked OK except for #3 exhaust which had
a small chunk out of it. The chunk was about the size of a match head and
seems to have gone out the exhaust. Probably in the cat.

Bottom end looks OK but also have to inspect in daylight.

I am now looking for a roller cam/followers and new lash adjusters. I may be
able to get a rebuit head for $250 with core charge so will look into that
next week.

Other than the head bolt I think I am OK.

How hard is it to get the nut off the crankshaft so I can replace the timing
belt?

Thanks in advance.

> Ugh....This is why I normally use an impact gun on them when I can.   What
did the valves look like?

> Cheers,
Ritz - 29 Oct 2005 04:08 GMT
> I thought to try the my impact wrench but did not have an impact socket.

Bummer.

> I am now looking for a roller cam/followers and new lash adjusters. I may be
> able to get a rebuit head for $250 with core charge so will look into that
> next week.

That's a great price if you can get it for that.

> Other than the head bolt I think I am OK.
>
> How hard is it to get the nut off the crankshaft so I can replace the timing
> belt?

It's not hard at all to remove that bolt if you've got an impact gun.  8-)

Cheers,
Big Al - 29 Oct 2005 07:34 GMT
>> How hard is it to get the nut off the crankshaft so I can replace the
>> timing
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>
> Cheers,

Hard to get an impact gun in there to get the nut off. I use a long stout
box wrench and a rubber hammer. If it's a stick shift, put it in the highest
gear and lock the parking brake to keep the crank from turning.

Al
Backyard Mechanic - 29 Oct 2005 04:11 GMT
> I finally got a socket to fit the head bolts on my 1990 2.3 Mustang
> but one of the bolts sheared. There is about 1/2" protuding above
> block and I am looking for advice from those who have done this
> before.
>
> Thanks.

A tip...   If you want some better performance out of that car.. though
it'll cost you in mileage, get a head for a turbo coupe... assuming it's
single plug still in that year.
RSCamaro - 29 Oct 2005 05:17 GMT
>I finally got a socket to fit the head bolts on my 1990 2.3 Mustang but one
>of the bolts sheared. There is about 1/2" protuding above block and I am
>looking for advice from those who have done this before.
>
>Thanks.

The most effective way that I have found to remove bolts that have
broken off is to weld a nut onto the stud sticking out.  The heat from
the welder is usually enough to expand and contract the bolt to be
removed rather easily.

                     ...Ron
--
68' Camaro RS
88' Firebird Formula
00' Mustang GT Vert
HLS@nospam.nix - 29 Oct 2005 17:21 GMT
> I finally got a socket to fit the head bolts on my 1990 2.3 Mustang but one
> of the bolts sheared. There is about 1/2" protuding above block and I am
> looking for advice from those who have done this before.
>
> Thanks.

Use a good penetrating oil on this rascal and let it soak as long as
feasible.
Respray it occasionally.
If I can get to it, I have used a small pipewrench (not vicegrips) on the
bolt.
It will bite in, and you can work it slowly back and forth and hope it
slips.
Tighten a little as well as loosen.  Once you break the 'logjam' it goes
pretty easy.

As others have said, you can weld a nut to it and have a go with your
breakover
bar or impact wrench, too.

I would have used a regular socket on my impact wrench, if I didnt have
a proper impact socket.  A good socket will hold up enough to loosen that
sucker.

You can normally take your head to a machine shop and have them
go through it a lot cheaper than $250.. and you, I hope, know the condition
of your head..  You have no clue, really, when you get an exchange.
HLS@nospam.nix - 29 Oct 2005 17:25 GMT
> If I can get to it, I have used a small pipewrench (not vicegrips) on the
> bolt.

I cant believe I wrote 'vice' grips...visegrips...
RSCamaro - 30 Oct 2005 17:38 GMT
>> If I can get to it, I have used a small pipewrench (not vicegrips) on the
>> bolt.
>
>I cant believe I wrote 'vice' grips...visegrips...

Must have been a subconcious thing.  I like the original spelling
better anyway, the only vicegrips I use in my garage are the ones used
as clamps for welding purposes.  

                      ...Ron
--
68' Camaro RS
88' Firebird Formula
00' Mustang GT Vert
ZombyWoof - 30 Oct 2005 17:57 GMT
>> I finally got a socket to fit the head bolts on my 1990 2.3 Mustang but
>one
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>go through it a lot cheaper than $250.. and you, I hope, know the condition
>of your head..  You have no clue, really, when you get an exchange.

Why not simply tap it and use an easyout?
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Zombywoof

Si vis Pacem, Para bellum

Ritz - 31 Oct 2005 00:05 GMT
> Why not simply tap it and use an easyout?

Because he said there was a fair bit of stud sticking up out of the
block.  If it had broken off somewhat flush with the block, I'd agree
with you.

Cheers,
HLS@nospam.nix - 31 Oct 2005 20:28 GMT
> > Why not simply tap it and use an easyout?
>
> Because he said there was a fair bit of stud sticking up out of the
> block.  If it had broken off somewhat flush with the block, I'd agree
> with you.

Exactly.
Easyouts are a pain to use, and not always so successful, especially if you
have a more 'robust' way to approach it.

Visegrips are okay as welding clamps, but on heavy jobs, they just dont hold
the mark.

A firm back and forth motion on the bolt shaft, with use of a good
penetrating oil,
will normally loosen even the toughest one.
Lloyd Cimprich - 01 Nov 2005 03:04 GMT
Thanks for all the excellent advice! I do not have a welder but will try
pipe wrench and penetrating oil. Does anyone have a suggestion related to
penetration oils? Lately I have been using rust check and it seems to help.

Thanks.
Hairy - 01 Nov 2005 03:52 GMT
> Thanks for all the excellent advice! I do not have a welder but will try
> pipe wrench and penetrating oil. Does anyone have a suggestion related to
> penetration oils? Lately I have been using rust check and it seems to help.
>
> Thanks.

In order of effectiveness

Kroil

Free All

PB Blaster
news - 05 Nov 2005 16:08 GMT
The best penetrating oil Ive ever seen/used is called "Nuts Off" but I
havent seen it around in a while

Dave

>> Thanks for all the excellent advice! I do not have a welder but will try
>> pipe wrench and penetrating oil. Does anyone have a suggestion related to
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>
> PB Blaster
HLS@nospam.nix - 05 Nov 2005 21:23 GMT
> The best penetrating oil Ive ever seen/used is called "Nuts Off" but I
> havent seen it around in a while
>
> Dave

I notice it a bit less in the last few years myself.
 
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