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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Mustang / November 2005Just once, I figured
I'm coming home, on the 401 in the Toronto area and some clown in a XK8 comes roaring up behind me. He must have done something with his engine because I actually heard it. I was innocently doing about 110kph in the middle lane. So, he jerks out from behind me doing what I figure was about 160kph (based on how fast he gained on me) and then juts in from of me, missing me by around 2ft. Trolling, I guess. But it worked. I figured, why should I let this yuppie pester me, I wasn't in the left lane, I wasn't impeding him? So, I accelerated onto his tail at 180kph. No traffic to speak of, it was after midnight. He sped up to 200kph, I kept up. Finally, at 220kph, he gets out of the way. I kept my foot down until the 6000rpm in 4th, 240kph and kept it down until it showed 6600rpm, 100rpm short of the redline. I figured I hit 260kph or around 158mph. He faded back very fast. It's not something I'd do again anytime soon, the most I'd ever gone was 248kph in a 1988 LX 5.0. This time it was my 2004 Mach-1. Good thing the police are on a "work to rule" campaign and are not issuing many tickets, at least not the Toronto police, though the highway patrol (OPP) are still at it. I'm sure the Jag could have passed me at some point, but he didn't. -Rich Just when I thought you might have something... you turn into a supreme a.s.... Notwithstanding that the 401 is the most accident prone stretch of highway in Canada (here's another chance for your stats).... notwithstanding that there is every chance that your tires aren't rated for that speed.... notwithstanding that there was even a slight chance of taking out an innocent in your quest for balls.... you feel the need for braggadocio...... WTH were you thinking of? Did you get a boner? Better start carrying a stick and a spoon in your car... that way the EMTs can pick you up easier. This message brought to you by a fat old guy on a Harley who never feels the need to exceed the speed limit... now, if you want to compare timeslips.... > I'm coming home, on the 401 Shut up warman. > Just when I thought you might have something... you turn into a supreme > a.s.... [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >>I'm coming home, on the 401 Come, now... you KNOW that's impossible. But at least it isn't life threatening. > Shut up warman. > I'm coming home, on the 401 in the Toronto area > and some clown in a XK8 comes roaring up behind me. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > I'm sure the Jag could have passed me at some point, but he didn't. > -Rich And this proved what? That your as big a jerk as the other guy? Congratulations!!!!! Hope that effort managed to put a hair on your balls....  SignatureJafo '02 GT Black Not eggzackly stock **snip** I figured I hit 260kph or around 158mph. *cough* bullshit KJK > **snip** > > I figured I hit 260kph or around 158mph. > > *cough* > bullshit Never thought of it this way. I hit 177kph on my way home for lunch on Friday. Cool. :() > **snip** > > I figured I hit 260kph or around 158mph. > > *cough* > bullshit I gotta call possible BS on an '88 LX 5.0L clocking in at 160 mph. Back when I was invincible and had a long, empty, slightly downhill stretch of I-66 I managed to get my slightly modified '89 LX hatchback up to 135-140 mph and that was about all it could muster. Getting another 20 mph out of it would have taken some serious horsepower. Also, the stability of the car was absolutely horrible at 135 and even if it could have gone to 160 mph I'm not sure I would have had the guts to do it. Also, the conversion factor from kph to mph is 0.621 so his 260 kph is closer to 162 mph. >> **snip** >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Also, the conversion factor from kph to mph is 0.621 so his 260 kph is > closer to 162 mph. There's no way a stock or even moderately modified '88LX is going that fast. The aerodynamics of the Fox body are about as brick-like as they come. As speed increases, the power requirements just to overcome the air resistance are enormous. All that aside, I agree with Warman (oh my). Only a complete tool would do something like that on a public roadway. Wanna go fast? Go to the track. That way, there are plenty of bystanders at a safe distance to scrape your entrails off the walls when you screw up. >>> **snip** >>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > come. As speed increases, the power requirements just to overcome the > air resistance are enormous. I have a factory sunroof in my LX and at 135 mph it sounded like it was on the verge of being sucked off the car. Combine that with the feeling the car was going airborne at any second and it was a performance I have not cared to repeat since then. > All that aside, I agree with Warman (oh my). Only a complete tool would > do something like that on a public roadway. Wanna go fast? Go to the > track. That way, there are plenty of bystanders at a safe distance to > scrape your entrails off the walls when you screw up. There's a time and place for everything. I the USA there are places, and times, when a driver can open up their vehicle and be of no danger to anyone but themselves. If someone is on an interstate highway in a remote area with no one in sight then I really don't care if they want to dance with the Devil. Doing top speed runs in a metropolitan area or on highways that are not restricted access isn't very wise and endangers innocent people and property. The top speed run I referenced was on a deserted stretch of I-66 and there was not a car visible for as far as I could see either in front or behind me. If I had wrecked then the worst I could have done was to take out a road sign or two. I would likely be dead from the crash too. Well, all ya'll are calling bullshit on the LX, I'm still calling it on the Mach. > Well, all ya'll are calling bullshit on the LX, I'm still calling it on the > Mach. Neither one of them can go that fast unless someone had done more than the usual low hanging fruit types of mods. Judging from the rather immature nature of a lot of his other posts, I suspect this entire episode is the result of random neuron firings while he slept. >> I gotta call possible BS on an '88 LX 5.0L clocking in at 160 mph. > There's no way a stock or even moderately modified '88LX is going that > fast. He said it was in an '04 Mach1 SignatureScott W. '66 HCS Mustang 289 '68 Ranchero 500 302 '69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W ThunderSnake #57 http://home.comcast.net/~vanguard92/ Having driven a Tractor Trailer for the better part of my life I'll give you a few tips.... The surest way to get the guy in front of you to speed up is to pull out and try and pass him. To get him to slow down, just set your cruise control. Works every time. The most aggravating thing to me is 3 cars abreast on a 3 lane highway all going EXACTLY the same speed. I call this a log jam. Try not to piss off truckers, most of them don't stop everytime they gotta pee so the vast majority drive around with a "portable pee bottle" (no, not me....I STOP!) which means they have a readily available bottle of urine to dump all over your car should you anger them in any way. Oh, and see that big space in the lane in front of most trucks? We need that to SLOW DOWN should someone brake unexpectedly in front of us. So try not to take that away, especially at highway speeds. You think hauling 80,000 pounds around is easy work? I've heard stories that would make yer hair curl, involving truckers and motorists. Truck drivers radioing ahead to the other guys to box in a particular car, and then throwing handfuls of pennies out the windows or worse at the offending vehicle. Scary stuff.... I know sometimes it's not possible to have that space in front of us, when my stopping distance is cut down I back off until I have the appropriate space but of course that just invites someone else to move in front. Unfortunately, most people don't realize how heavy a loaded truck can be. 80,000 lbs....think about that.... 40 TONS. Even empty, trucks weigh in at over 20,000 lbs....! Bottom line is this, if I rear end a vehicle may be my fault, but I will always walk away from the accident. The guy I hit will have my bumper in his front seat.... Has never happened yet (knock wood) and I hope it never does. Drive safe! >Having driven a Tractor Trailer for the better part of my life I'll >give you a few tips.... <<SNIP>> >Drive safe! An old family friend was a trucker until one night he was carrying rolls of steel and had to jam on the brakes. Apparently a couple of the rolls weren't tied down and just came right through the cab. I always leave trucks a lot of room. Mike Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. "I always wanted to be somebody...I should have been more specific..." - Lily Tomlin : >Having driven a Tractor Trailer for the better part of my life I'll : >give you a few tips.... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] : : Mike My little brother is a trucker. I have ridden with him some, and learned several years ago how stupid I was sometimes. Since, I give them plenty of room and try to let them in when I can. KJK >>>I gotta call possible BS on an '88 LX 5.0L clocking in at 160 mph. >> >>There's no way a stock or even moderately modified '88LX is going that >>fast. > > He said it was in an '04 Mach1 That car won't do it either. >>> **snip** >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > fast. The aerodynamics of the Fox body are about as brick-like as they > come. I thought I remembered reading that the aero-headlight Fox-bodied Mustangs were pretty aerodynamic. IIRC, they had a lower CD than the SN95s that replaced 'em. Signature/ Garth - '83 GL V6stang Hatch <Former MW #7> \ | My V6stang: http://www.v6stang.com/v6stang | | RAMFM Merchandise: http://www.cafeshops.com/ramfm | \ Mail pgp@v6stang.com for secure reply information / >> **snip** >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Also, the conversion factor from kph to mph is 0.621 so his 260 kph is > closer to 162 mph. Can you read? Its his 2004 Mach-1 he's talking about. Also, at those speeds, factory speedometers are (historically anyways) notoriously inaccurate. Given a factory gear ratio and the high revving DOHC in his car I wouldnt necessarily say bullshit. I'd be more interested in knowing what his tach said. Ever better would be if he had a quality aftermarket tach as you should be able to closely calculate speed based on an accurate tach reading. >>> **snip** >>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > speeds, factory speedometers are (historically anyways) notoriously > inaccurate. Ummmm... yes I can. Can you? At the bottom of his post he states the following: "It's not something I'd do again anytime soon, the most I'd ever gone was 248kph in a 1988 LX 5.0." My factory speedometer wasn't off 20+ mph and I seriously doubt his is, or was, either. > Given a factory gear ratio and the high revving DOHC in his car I > wouldnt necessarily say bullshit. I'd be more interested in knowing what > his tach said. Ever better would be if he had a quality aftermarket tach > as you should be able to closely calculate speed based on an accurate > tach reading. The Mustang isn't a very aerodynamic vehicle and the Mach I engine is around 280 rwhp stock so 160 mph runs are somewhat a stretch unless he was going down a relatively steep incline or had a very stiff tail wind. Besides, I was commenting on an '88 LX going 160 mph not a 2004 Mach I. >>> **snip** >>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >as you should be able to closely calculate speed based on an accurate >tach reading. Well if you read his original message he claimed 6600rpm in 4th. SignatureZombywoof Si vis Pacem, Para bellum Would he have not hit the rev limeter at 6600 RPM ??????? : >>> **snip** : >>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] : > : Well if you read his original message he claimed 6600rpm in 4th. In a DOHC? You had a cobra, didnt you ever wind it past 6600? Mine used to hit the rev limiter (guv-ner whatever) and fall on it's knees right around there, that's why I was asking. : In a DOHC? You had a cobra, didnt you ever wind it past 6600? >Mine used to hit the rev limiter (guv-ner whatever) and fall on it's knees >right around there, that's why I was asking. > >: In a DOHC? You had a cobra, didnt you ever wind it past 6600? The Mach-1 will hit 7000 without valve float. It's a better engine (more refined) than the older Cobras. But then again, my 1988 LX 5.0 could hit 148mph and pretty fast, considering it was supposedly rated at 225hp. -Rich >Would he have not hit the rev limeter at 6600 RPM ??????? His story, not mine :) >: >>> **snip** >: >>> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >: > >: Well if you read his original message he claimed 6600rpm in 4th. SignatureZombywoof Si vis Pacem, Para bellum >>> **snip** >>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >speeds, factory speedometers are (historically anyways) notoriously >inaccurate. Well, I've compared my 03 cobra with a gps to see how accurate the speedo is and I must tell you that up to 100 mph it is right on. I am not sure what happens above that but it probably is still pretty close. I doubt the mach-1 does 160mph though but that's another issue. >Given a factory gear ratio and the high revving DOHC in his car I >wouldnt necessarily say bullshit. I'd be more interested in knowing what >his tach said. Ever better would be if he had a quality aftermarket tach >as you should be able to closely calculate speed based on an accurate >tach reading. well, who knows. I'm not saying I never speed, but doing 160mph on public roads is not a good idea in my opinion. Take it to the track I say. Kate, I am not trying ot stir the pot, but wasn't our Cobra's rated to do 155 mph in stock form? and isn't that basically the same motor the new Mach's have? Scott > **snip** > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > KJK Hey Scott! How ya doin kid! Hell, you aren't stirring a thing :) The speedo said 160. Highest I ever had it was just over 130 Yes, I do believe that the Mach has the same engine, and that's why I called bullshit Do you really think he had the speedo that close to pegged? By that speed the Mach's tounge should have been hanging out. If YOU were going that fast wouldn't you LOOK and KNOW how fast you were going? I sure as hell would have known. Braggin rights and all that. KJK : Kate, : I am not trying ot stir the pot, but wasn't our Cobra's rated to do 155 [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] : > : > KJK Katie - I am still around. I have the motor out of the '71 and about to order a 331 kit. good times. The BIL mechanic is thinking I should be putting out around 300ish HP with my conservative combination. Something tells me that my stock C4 doesn't have the gears to hit 150 MPH. added to my 3.90 rear end I might be lucky to hit 120. I might have to find me an AOD as soon as my C4 goes south. I have no regrets selling the Cobra. This old car is much more fun. Have you ran your daughter off yet? Scott > Hey Scott! How ya doin kid! > Hell, you aren't stirring a thing :) [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > : > > : > KJK Nope, Kristen is still here, the little guy is keeping me up to my eyeballs while she is at work. That little guy runs my a.s off! She went to work at *sigh* the chevy dealer, also the place where I bought my Jeep. Go figure, she is a grease monkey. aka lube tech. My little girl, a grease monkey, where will it all end!!?? I ran across, of all things, today a Bronco II. an 87 that I can pick up for $800. I am seriously considering picking it up and making it a play toy. Brop a 302 into it maybe and jack it up, make a mud monster out of it or something. Yea.. it might be fun. It's already a 4x4 with a standard tranny... it's a great start. Then I could go playin the brush and not worry about scratching the hide off my Libby for a little while. Only 300 hp huh? It won't be enough, you know that. Shug was always weaker than I wanted and she was a smidge more than that. Think hard, I would suggest putting as much in it as you can since you're doing it anyway. Do you have any photos of the older one up anywhere? : Katie - : I am still around. I have the motor out of the '71 and about to order a [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] : > : > : > : > KJK Oh, how proud I would be to raise a daughter that was a gear-head. how cool. my child is constantly telling me to speed up while driving down the road. I look forward to taking her for a ride in the Mustang. I have two projects going. Since child #2 is due in March, I am building a room over my garage to move my office to. I need more room. And since this room addition is taking all my resources, I will be lucky to order my parts before XMas. We will see. Aren't children the best! Even the unborn. GRRRR Scott > Nope, Kristen is still here, the little guy is keeping me up to my eyeballs > while she is at work. [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > : > : > > : > : > KJK Oh yea.. kinda like warts or boils... LOL Poor Scott. : Oh, how proud I would be to raise a daughter that was a gear-head. how : cool. my child is constantly telling me to speed up while driving down the [quoted text clipped - 86 lines] : > : > : > : > : > : > KJK Actually, I am not complaining about the situation. For once, I am able to build something (the room). All of my bread and butter work is boring a.s computer work. Nothing real tangible. If i could make $100k and be a carpenter or something along those lines, I would do it in a heartbeat. But I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. I am at sheetrock stage. and the stroker kit will be on order by week end. No pics yet. Scott > Oh yea.. kinda like warts or boils... LOL > [quoted text clipped - 104 lines] > : > : > : > > : > : > : > KJK > If YOU were going that fast wouldn't you LOOK and KNOW how fast you were > going? I'd be too afraid to look down for fear of missing something I oughta be keeping my eyes on, like the road and anything that might end up centerpunching my front end. SignatureScott W. '66 HCS Mustang 289 '68 Ranchero 500 302 '69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W ThunderSnake #57 http://home.comcast.net/~vanguard92/ We've all probably succumbed at least once to that temptation. And Rich's body of posts points out that he writes the incident, not in boastfulness but as a stream of conciousness report. But I'm reminded of something I learned through observation, as a kid. I had occasion to stay with my aunt and uncle and she was driving me somewhere .. I forget where.. and I noticed that she steered her car much like you see done on TV comedic skits... constantly moving the steering wheel, left and right. Now it was a NEW car, they never kept a car more than 3 years, so it couldnt be play in the steering.. which I knew of because I was a farm kid and DID have experience in driving, if only off- road. But I was smart enough not to ask her why she did that... instead I reasoned it out. And the answer I came up with was that she was LITERALLY DRIVING the car, instead of looking down the road and guiding the car toward a point, she was actually ACTIVELY KEEPING the car in the proper lane. I think we've all ridden with someone who does that. And therein lies the danger of speeding to excess. Many people NEVER look further down the road than a quarter mile... some not even that far. So instead of driving defensively, they bank on the fact that almost all drivers drive within the law and statutes. Another good example of this are those who assume that, because the light has just turned green, they're in the clear to proceed through the intersection.. and they dont bother looking left and right to see if someone's going to try to beat the light and/or run a red. I'm also guilty of sometimes assuming that.. Statistically this is supported by UN accident and death figures for some countries in which we KNOW there are 'crazy' drivers but relatively low collision rates. And that is why, in North America.... Rich <none@none.com> wrote in news:bqj8m1d6ogk7lm128gvu14tpp3enhfqfla@ 4ax.com: > I'm coming home, on the 401 in the Toronto area > and some clown in a XK8 comes roaring up behind me. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > I'm sure the Jag could have passed me at some point, but he didn't. > -Rich >We've all probably succumbed at least once to that temptation. >And Rich's body of posts points out that he writes the incident, not in [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >I think we've all ridden with someone who does that. And therein lies >the danger of speeding to excess. A long time ago 60 Minutes did a segment on driving where they attached a measuring device to see how many times a minute the average driver corrected their glide path. Supposedly the less number of changes made on a straight lane the better the driver. I can't remember all of the details since it was such a long time ago (Mike Wallace was young). SignatureZombywoof Si vis Pacem, Para bellum >>We've all probably succumbed at least once to that temptation. >>And Rich's body of posts points out that he writes the incident, not [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > remember all of the details since it was such a long time ago (Mike > Wallace was young). What was interesting upshot of that... is that while I was in Navy, I was a very ordinary guy in both boot camp and schools. Until tests that looked on how you actually DID something. I had to test for an on base driver's license, and during the 'school', the instructor pointed out how I drove as the way to do it, he was watching for signs of 'looking down-road'. >>We've all probably succumbed at least once to that temptation. >>And Rich's body of posts points out that he writes the incident, not in [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >remember all of the details since it was such a long time ago (Mike >Wallace was young). Well, I think the steering system has a lot to do with it too. Some systems are so overpowered that you need to correct it constantly. Then things like tire wear, alignment and the road itself also add up to that. Pair of who ? >Pair of who ? parabellum... as in 9mm : 0 ) SignatureSpike 1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok; Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound audio-video... See my ride at.... Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg Silly, I KNEW that part, I was wondering what the heck the rest was LOL : >Pair of who ? : > : parabellum... as in 9mm : 0 ) >We've all probably succumbed at least once to that temptation. >And Rich's body of posts points out that he writes the incident, not in [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >the car toward a point, she was actually ACTIVELY KEEPING the car in the >proper lane. Of course, it might also be reasoned that someone might have needed to see an optometrist : 0 ) Defensive driving is the key, and it's not just how far down the road one looks, but all around. I've had to chase people with reds and siren for several miles before they realize there is someone behind them. And seen accidents in the middle of nowhere with essentially unlimited visibility, where someone pulls out directly into the path of another vehicle (or train). Among some of the reasons for the constant correction could be attributed to a) steering system b) vision problem c) insecure/timid/nervous diver d) weather (gusting cross winds). There are many drivers who, no matter how long they have been driving, never become comfortable behind the wheel and it's often a case of fighting to be in control, even when there is no need. And I've found the cause to vary. For example, someone who is used to driving in the country becomes this way in city traffic, and vice versa. In some you can see it increase as the traffic around them increases. My grandfather, who, in his much younger days, drove cargo trucks through the Grapevine when it was 2 lanes was this way. Later in life, he'd take his old Buick Roadmaster and bust 100mph on country roads around the town where he lived. Yet, when it came time to sign up for social security, it was an extreme effort for him to drive the 9 miles to the next town where the Social Security Office was located. SignatureSpike 1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok; Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound audio-video... See my ride at.... Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg >>We've all probably succumbed at least once to that temptation. >>And Rich's body of posts points out that he writes the incident, not in [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] >social security, it was an extreme effort for him to drive the 9 miles >to the next town where the Social Security Office was located. I learned how to drive in Germany and the process is quite involved. One of the thing that the driving instructors drilled into me was to pay attention to the car in front of the car in front of me. If I was reacting to what he did I would be doing it at as least as fast as the driver in front of me if not faster. I really wish we could adopt a lot of the aspects of German driving here in the states, but I would suspect 70% of our population would never be able to get licensed or keep it. SignatureZombywoof Si vis Pacem, Para bellum All I know is, that when I was more involved with our fire department, I picked up far too many people with a stick and a spoon. It's bad enough putting someone in a body bag.... having to use a scoop shovel to do it is worse.... much, much worse. I realize that what I have in mind will be ignored by some, treated with disdain by others.... If you want to go real fast... there are places to do that... If you want to screw your brains out... there are places to do that.... If you want to drink your face off... there are places for that.... If yopu want to watch a movie... there are places for that.... None of them are publicly used roads. Every last one of us leaves home expecting that every last one of us is going to respect the rules of the road. If we keep dropping loose cannons into the middle of the equation.... Common sense is still on holiday... > All I know is, that when I was more involved with our fire department, I > picked up far too many people with a stick and a spoon. It's bad enough [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Common sense is still on holiday... Shut up warman. What... is everyone from Calgary an a.shole? Do something... offer an opinion... offer an alternative... but don't sound like a parrot.... > > All I know is, that when I was more involved with our fire department, I > > picked up far too many people with a stick and a spoon. It's bad enough [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Shut up warman. >Every last one of us leaves home expecting that every last one of us is >going to respect the rules of the road. This is one of the main reasons we see so many who don't. If more people would drive as if nobody else is going to obey the rules, they'd be more defensive in the way they drive.... and more would make it home. SignatureSpike 1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok; Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound audio-video... See my ride at.... Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg That's a unique view, Spike... crazy part is that it might work in some areas... >That's a unique view, Spike... crazy part is that it might work in some >areas... LOL Thanks for the.... say was that a positive? negative? or a positive negative???? : 0 ) All it says is to expect the worst from other drivers and if you're smart, you'll be a lot more cautious... This is the way a lot of patrolmen are taught... Always expect the other guy NOT to drive properly in order to be prepared for the unexpected. This is why, during a flat out response on a 2 lane road and approaching a 4 way stop, slowing, I pulled out to pass the cars lined up and as I reached the stop line, the lead vehicle hung a left right in front of me. Then stopped dead. A tap of the brake and hit the gas and slipped between the rear of that vehicle and the nose of the next in line. Had I not expected someone to do something stupid, I might not have reduced speed, and a TA could very likely not have been avoided. NOTE: After arriving and handling the situation, both I and my partner kicked back to have a smoke and relapse, when the shaking set in so bad neither of us could hold a lighter steady to light up. Damn near splashed all the coffee out of my thermos, too. SignatureSpike 1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok; Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound audio-video... See my ride at.... Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg "Spike" <jma@snowcrest.net> wrote *snip* : NOTE: After arriving and handling the situation, both I and my partner : kicked back to have a smoke and relapse, when the shaking set in so : bad neither of us could hold a lighter steady to light up. Damn near : splashed all the coffee out of my thermos, too. Please say you didn't dump your donuts........ *snikker giggle* Kate >"Spike" <jma@snowcrest.net> wrote >*snip* [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Kate I was going to avoid any discussion of a return to station : 0 ) SignatureSpike 1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok; Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound audio-video... See my ride at.... Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg : >"Spike" <jma@snowcrest.net> wrote : >*snip* [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] : > : I was going to avoid any discussion of a return to station : 0 ) Couldn't let ya slide sweetie.... just couldn't letcha. Oh, you have a little glaze there on your moustache..... KJK >: >"Spike" <jma@snowcrest.net> wrote >: >*snip* [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >KJK Uhhhhh, Geeeeee.... Thanks for pointing that out : 0 ) LOL Should I ask how the Hubster hurt his back? hehehehehehe SignatureSpike 1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok; Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound audio-video... See my ride at.... Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg : >Oh, you have a little glaze there on your moustache..... : > : >KJK : > : Uhhhhh, Geeeeee.... Thanks for pointing that out : 0 ) LOL : Should I ask how the Hubster hurt his back? hehehehehehe Not in any way that *I* got to enjoy! damnit. KJK >: >Oh, you have a little glaze there on your moustache..... >: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >KJK Sounds like it's rock hoppin' time to me.... LOL SignatureSpike 1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok; Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound audio-video... See my ride at.... Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg |
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