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FS 1967 Mustang Coupe  Reduced price

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Joy - 29 Nov 2005 15:32 GMT
FOR SALE:
1967 Mustang Coupe

was $10,000.00 now $7,000.00

     Transmission: Automatic  Doors: 2
     Engine: 8- Cy. (289 cu. in.)  Interior: Black
     Warranty: No  Year: 1967
     Title: Clear  Exterior: Pale Yellow (as on this page)
     Condition: Used  Inspection: Currently inspected and registered.

Interior seats needs work, headliner and muffler needs to be replaced, small
dent on hood, and some rest on the underside ...other than that its a good
little car.  Within the past thirty days have replaced points, and
condenser, and thermostat and rebuilt the carbonator A year ago we put new
plugs, plug wires, and put new tires on it, all new hoses, gas tank, and has
a new fuel and water pump. The car has been buffed out and a clear top coat,
to make it shine.

Pictures are located at http://www.maltesekisses.com/1967_mustang.htm

We are located in Carrollton Texas, if you would like to see the car. Please
email
lab~rat - 15 Dec 2005 20:15 GMT
>FOR SALE:
>1967 Mustang Coupe
>
>was $10,000.00 now $7,000.00

A lot of work for that much money...
--
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Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
Joy - 15 Dec 2005 23:38 GMT
We have put over 5000.00 in it ourselves, new gas tank, new carburetor,
tires, brake pads, battery all new hoses. New radio, plus much more and it
is a classic...and drivable. We will keep the car first before we go down on
the price again.
Thank you, have a great day!
Joy

> >FOR SALE:
> >1967 Mustang Coupe
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> lab~rat  >:-)
> Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
ZombyWoof - 17 Dec 2005 06:19 GMT
>We have put over 5000.00 in it ourselves, new gas tank, new carburetor,
>tires, brake pads, battery all new hoses. New radio, plus much more and it
>is a classic...and drivable. We will keep the car first before we go down on
>the price again.
>Thank you, have a great day!
>Joy

Sounds as if you paid to have the work done if that is all that has
been done for 5K.  No offense, but if you learned to turn a wrench or
to you would find your expense goes down and your enjoyment goes up.
A 67 is very easy to wrench on and all the things you mentioned can be
done in a home garage.

Says the guy with a frame-off `72 Corvette still sitting in the garage
in boxes & coffee cans.  :)  -- But one day!

>> >FOR SALE:
>> >1967 Mustang Coupe
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>> lab~rat  >:-)
>> Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

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Joy - 17 Dec 2005 14:47 GMT
lol Dallas Mustang did most of the work.....and I forgot to mention it has a
new battery panel and back panel and it has a new rear bumper.and buffed out
and another clear coat on it

I cant even change the battery in my flashlight . Me working on that car is
out of the question. I'm the person that only knows that I put gas in it and
it goes. OH I did put windshield blades on it. heheheheh

Joy

> >We have put over 5000.00 in it ourselves, new gas tank, new carburetor,
> >tires, brake pads, battery all new hoses. New radio, plus much more and it
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>
> Si vis Pacem, Para bellum
ZombyWoof - 17 Dec 2005 15:07 GMT
>lol Dallas Mustang did most of the work.....and I forgot to mention it has a
>new battery panel and back panel and it has a new rear bumper.and buffed out
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>
>Joy

Your Daddy/Husband/Boy Toy has done you a disservice.  Some of the
things you listed you could have done yourself without much issue.  

I hope you at least know how to check your oil, fluid levels & tire
pressure along with change a flat.  

>> >We have put over 5000.00 in it ourselves, new gas tank, new carburetor,
>> >tires, brake pads, battery all new hoses. New radio, plus much more and
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>>
>> Si vis Pacem, Para bellum

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Brian Bunin - 17 Dec 2005 19:50 GMT
>>lol Dallas Mustang did most of the work.....and I forgot to mention it has a
>>new battery panel and back panel and it has a new rear bumper.and buffed out
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>I hope you at least know how to check your oil, fluid levels & tire
>pressure along with change a flat.  

So, can you build a deck?
Rewire a house?
Assemble a high end computer from scratch?
Hit the bullseye 8 ot of 10 times at 200yds?
Manage a stock portfolio at better than the going interest rate?

Not everyone can do everything, even the easier parts. I suggest you get down
off your high horse and offer some constructive comments, instead.
66 6F HCS - 17 Dec 2005 21:05 GMT
> So, can you build a deck?
> Rewire a house?
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> down
> off your high horse and offer some constructive comments, instead.

Comparing an oil change or changing a flat tire to managing a stock
portfolio and scratchbuilding a 'puter is insanely ridiculous. If you can
turn a bolt with a wrench you can do both of those things on a car. Implying
an "education" or any skill is required for either is simply asinine!
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'66 HCS Mustang 289
'68 Ranchero 500 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
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http://home.comcast.net/~vanguard92/

ZombyWoof - 18 Dec 2005 06:28 GMT
>>>lol Dallas Mustang did most of the work.....and I forgot to mention it has a
>>>new battery panel and back panel and it has a new rear bumper.and buffed out
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>
>So, can you build a deck?
Yes
>Rewire a house?
Yes
>Assemble a high end computer from scratch?
Daily
>Hit the bullseye 8 ot of 10 times at 200yds?

With a pistol, rifle or sling-shot & rock?

>Manage a stock portfolio at better than the going interest rate?

Seesh just about anyone can manage a portfolio at better then the
going back interest rates.  Seesh again.

>Not everyone can do everything, even the easier parts. I suggest you get down
>off your high horse and offer some constructive comments, instead.

They were constructive dumbass.
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lab~rat - 21 Dec 2005 12:56 GMT
>>>lol Dallas Mustang did most of the work.....and I forgot to mention it has a
>>>new battery panel and back panel and it has a new rear bumper.and buffed out
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>Not everyone can do everything, even the easier parts. I suggest you get down
>off your high horse and offer some constructive comments, instead.

But of course, you are seeing the reason that there are so many
overpriced classic cars.

This month's Hemmings Muscle Machines had an auction report where less
than 25% of the cars met their reserve.  I'm hoping it means the
bubble burst on the old car market, because I buy for fun, not
investment.

You have to have more dollars than sense to own an older car and no
tools...

The car in question should bring around $3,600 at best in my opinion.
Any other opinions?
--
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Ritz - 21 Dec 2005 15:07 GMT
> But of course, you are seeing the reason that there are so many
> overpriced classic cars.
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> The car in question should bring around $3,600 at best in my opinion.
> Any other opinions?

I didn't see the original post so I don't know what they were asking for
the car.  Around here (Connecticut), a 65-68 w/v8 in decent shape can be
found for about $5-6k.  In showroom condition, it's more like $15-20k.
Something more rare like a Shelby or original FE car or something with
very low verifiable miles is obviously a lot more.

I know what you mean about the prices.  I can't believe some of the
prices I see on ebay and whatnot for rather ratty unrestored cars.  PT
Barnum is right.  You get a lot of dot.commers with a fat check from
selling off stock options that will pay practically anything for a
classic Mustang so you wind up with this temporary price bubble which
seems to be slowly deflating.  Playing the classic car game is a no-win
situation unless you do your own work or have enough disposable income
to just sit on the cars until you can sell it when you damn well please.
 8-)

Cheers,
lab~rat - 22 Dec 2005 12:43 GMT
>> But of course, you are seeing the reason that there are so many
>> overpriced classic cars.
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>
>Cheers,

Here's the original post:

FOR SALE:
1967 Mustang Coupe

was $10,000.00 now $7,000.00

     Transmission: Automatic  Doors: 2
     Engine: 8- Cy. (289 cu. in.)  Interior: Black
     Warranty: No  Year: 1967
     Title: Clear  Exterior: Pale Yellow (as on this page)
     Condition: Used  Inspection: Currently inspected and registered.

Interior seats needs work, headliner and muffler needs to be replaced,
small
dent on hood, and some rest on the underside ...other than that its a
good
little car.  Within the past thirty days have replaced points, and
condenser, and thermostat and rebuilt the carbonator A year ago we put
new
plugs, plug wires, and put new tires on it, all new hoses, gas tank,
and has
a new fuel and water pump. The car has been buffed out and a clear top
coat,
to make it shine.

Pictures are located at http://www.maltesekisses.com/1967_mustang.htm

We are located in Carrollton Texas, if you would like to see the car.
Please
email

====

I looked at a 68 coupe parked in a service station yesterday.  They
were asking $2500.  It ran, 289, but there were piles of rust dust
where it was sitting.  The interior was complete but worn.  It had all
the parts but the front bumper.

I imagine it would be worth it to someone, but not me.  I'm done
chasing rust...
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Ritz - 22 Dec 2005 13:04 GMT
>>I didn't see the original post so I don't know what they were asking for
>>the car.  Around here (Connecticut), a 65-68 w/v8 in decent shape can be
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> I imagine it would be worth it to someone, but not me.  I'm done
> chasing rust...

Let's just say that I think their sale price is a bit "optimistic"...by
a factor of 2.  I don't begrudge any collector/enthusiast whatever they
can get for their car/gear, but I don't see an informed buyer paying
anything close to $7k for that car in that condition.

I agree about chasing rust.  It USED to be fun, but now I'd much rather
just start with something that's clean (no rust).  Replacing floors,
torque boxes, frame rails, etc....That's definitely a young man's game
and hardly seems worth the effort when so many clean cars are around.  8-)

Cheers,
Joy - 29 Dec 2005 18:20 GMT
How can you comment on a cars worth if you havent even seen it? or driven
it??? and ya know guys, the ladies love and classic car.....lol...it might
be well worth your money just for that factor...lol

> >>I didn't see the original post so I don't know what they were asking for
> >>the car.  Around here (Connecticut), a 65-68 w/v8 in decent shape can be
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>
> Cheers,
Zombywoof - 30 Dec 2005 04:24 GMT
>How can you comment on a cars worth if you havent even seen it? or driven
>it??? and ya know guys, the ladies love and classic car.....lol...it might
>be well worth your money just for that factor...lol

A great many people know exactly what the market will bear for all
sorts of cars if they are given an adaquate description of the
vehicle.  It gets even easier when the asking price is 2X the current
market price.

>> >>I didn't see the original post so I don't know what they were asking for
>> >>the car.  Around here (Connecticut), a 65-68 w/v8 in decent shape can be
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>>
>> Cheers,

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Joy - 30 Dec 2005 06:48 GMT
you think Just because I'm a woman that I don't know anything about the
value of this car......give me some credit...I will keep it myself, before I
sell this car for asking price.... longer I have it more it will be worth.
Even the mustang shop agreed with me.....

Have a good day

> >How can you comment on a cars worth if you havent even seen it? or driven
> >it??? and ya know guys, the ladies love and classic car.....lol...it might
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>
> Si vis Pacem, Para bellum
Zombywoof - 30 Dec 2005 12:38 GMT
>you think Just because I'm a woman that I don't know anything about the
>value of this car......give me some credit...I will keep it myself, before I
>sell this car for asking price.... longer I have it more it will be worth.
>Even the mustang shop agreed with me.....
>
>Have a good day

Actually gender has nothing to do with it.  I know way more guys who
have to much sunk into classic cars then women.  I'm quite sure the
Mustang shop did tell you that.  Especially if they can get you to
bring it in for more & more repairs.  

I sincerely think you should fix the interior and muffler if you
expect to get 7k.  Most definitely the muffler screams "I've never
ever cared about/for this car.  I would never ever put a car up for
sale that needed a muffler.

Do get all freaky deaky just because people are having a conversation.
This isn't the greatest forum to get top dollar for a sale anyway.

>> >How can you comment on a cars worth if you havent even seen it? or driven
>> >it??? and ya know guys, the ladies love and classic car.....lol...it
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>>
>> Si vis Pacem, Para bellum

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Brent P - 31 Dec 2005 01:16 GMT
> you think Just because I'm a woman that I don't know anything about the
> value of this car......give me some credit...I will keep it myself, before I
> sell this car for asking price.... longer I have it more it will be worth.
> Even the mustang shop agreed with me.....

That the longer you have it the more it will be worth, true, provided
it's condition doesn't go down.

You were initially asking 10 grand for a car with pretty pictures of the
outside and then admited "rest" (rust,obviously) underneath and interior
(headliner none the less) and muffler issues. You have no pictures of
these trouble spots.

I've seen LOTS of pretty old fords that looked like sh.t when I crawled
under them. Each owner was asking top dollar for their pretty mustang.
(and none of them needed a headliner, which is, as I recall, a big job
that requires removing front and rear glass.

I've crawled under these pretty mustangs to find rust holes in a the
floor patched by taring a piece of sheet metal over them under the
carpet. Frame rail rot that meant tearing the whole car down to replace
the rail. Torque boxes that were all but gone. The list goes on with the
horrors I've found under 'pretty' unit body fords.

This has nothing to do with you being a woman, but what you have
presented to us and the price you are asking for it. I'd never buy a car
online that someone admits to rust on the underside, I've seen owners
represent their cars as top quality and have serious rust issues
underneath. What is nothing of concern to most people on the underside
of a car is of big concern to people who know what they are looking at.
Zombywoof - 31 Dec 2005 05:53 GMT
>> you think Just because I'm a woman that I don't know anything about the
>> value of this car......give me some credit...I will keep it myself, before I
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>underneath. What is nothing of concern to most people on the underside
>of a car is of big concern to people who know what they are looking at.

Hells bells you should see some of the rust bucket Vettes that I have
looked at.  Real easy to have a pretty body on those, but woo-daddy
not a pretty under-belly.

She should really at least get the muffler fixed.  At least someone
who doesn't know any better won't hear the muffler problem right off
the bat.  There is also a cheap way to do the headliner without
removing the glass.  It don't last, but is a real quick & cheap fix in
order to make a sale.

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Spike - 31 Dec 2005 08:44 GMT
>Hells bells you should see some of the rust bucket Vettes that I have
>looked at.  Real easy to have a pretty body on those, but woo-daddy
>not a pretty under-belly.

How can a plastic car be a rust bucket?
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w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok;
Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich
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66 6F HCS - 31 Dec 2005 19:42 GMT
>>Hells bells you should see some of the rust bucket Vettes that I have
>>looked at.  Real easy to have a pretty body on those, but woo-daddy
>>not a pretty under-belly.
>>
> How can a plastic car be a rust bucket?

Maybe he meant CHEvette??
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'68 Ranchero 500 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
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Zombywoof - 01 Jan 2006 16:27 GMT
>>Hells bells you should see some of the rust bucket Vettes that I have
>>looked at.  Real easy to have a pretty body on those, but woo-daddy
>>not a pretty under-belly.
>>
>How can a plastic car be a rust bucket?

The body panels are plastic.  Guess what is underneath them and hold
them all together?  Or in the cases of some older ones, doesn't.
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Joy - 31 Dec 2005 17:50 GMT
Are you suggesting I mask the things that needs to be repair , just to make
a sell??? That would be dishonest and taking advantage of a honest buyer.
You as a buyer would you like to be taken advantage of or know the truth
upfront? I'm not a dishonest person. We didn't know about the muffler till
we took the car away from out daughter. and the Car is 7,000 not 10,000

Joy

> >> you think Just because I'm a woman that I don't know anything about the
> >> value of this car......give me some credit...I will keep it myself, before I
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>
> Si vis Pacem, Para bellum
Zombywoof - 01 Jan 2006 16:28 GMT
>Are you suggesting I mask the things that needs to be repair , just to make
>a sell??? That would be dishonest and taking advantage of a honest buyer.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Joy

Making something presentable for sale is not being dishonest.  It is
simply fixing the obvious.  If you want top dollar for a used vehicle
it should at least be in top appearance.  A muffler is an easy fix.

>> >> you think Just because I'm a woman that I don't know anything about the
>> >> value of this car......give me some credit...I will keep it myself,
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>>
>> Si vis Pacem, Para bellum

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Brent P - 02 Jan 2006 22:46 GMT
> Are you suggesting I mask the things that needs to be repair , just to make
> a sell??? That would be dishonest and taking advantage of a honest buyer.
> You as a buyer would you like to be taken advantage of or know the truth
> upfront? I'm not a dishonest person. We didn't know about the muffler till
> we took the car away from out daughter. and the Car is 7,000 not 10,000

It's being suggested that you repair the car to get the best price.
Brent P - 02 Jan 2006 22:45 GMT
> She should really at least get the muffler fixed.

Reminds me of this fairlane I saw for sale.... the muffler wasn't rusted,
it had EXPLODED.  Just riped wide open at the seam.  
lab~rat - 06 Jan 2006 14:48 GMT
>>How can you comment on a cars worth if you havent even seen it? or driven
>>it??? and ya know guys, the ladies love and classic car.....lol...it might
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>vehicle.  It gets even easier when the asking price is 2X the current
>market price.

Plus, a lot of us already have classic cars, so the 'ladies' factor is
already in the box...

LOL
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Ritz - 02 Jan 2006 01:56 GMT
You did include a link with lots of pictures.  I've owned and driven a
number of Mustangs of this vintage and know how they ride and have a
pretty good idea what they're worth.  But hey, PT Barnum was on to
something.  You might find someone out there who will pay more than it's
worth and meet your asking price.  Hope springs eternal.

Cheers,

> How can you comment on a cars worth if you havent even seen it? or driven
> it??? and ya know guys, the ladies love and classic car.....lol...it might
> be well worth your money just for that factor...lol
Zombywoof - 02 Jan 2006 16:41 GMT
>You did include a link with lots of pictures.  I've owned and driven a
>number of Mustangs of this vintage and know how they ride and have a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Cheers,

Would you agree that if you are going to hold out for tippy top price
that fixing some of the more glaring problems, like a bad muffler, is
a good idea?
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Ritz - 02 Jan 2006 16:49 GMT
>>You did include a link with lots of pictures.  I've owned and driven a
>>number of Mustangs of this vintage and know how they ride and have a
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> that fixing some of the more glaring problems, like a bad muffler, is
> a good idea?

Yup.  Little niggly things like that detract from the value of the car
more than it would cost to fix them.  Though a torn headliner is a
supreme pain in the rump to fix.  I had a very small tear in the
headliner of my old '67 and I just paid someone from a tailor shop to
come by and "micro-stitch" it without pulling it down, but I just got
lucky because it was a very small tear.  You could see the repair if you
looked close, but it looked a LOT better than having a Dorito-sized flap
hanging down.

Also, if there is "rest underneath" that is a big red flag on these
cars.  In climates with snow/salt or people near the ocean, rust can
quickly do a substantial amount of damage to the frame rails, torque
boxes, floors, trunk, bottoms of the fenders/doors, etc.  Replacing
floorpans and frame sections is very much NOT fun.  I've actually had
one '67 where I physically cut the frame off north of the firewall and
welded on a new frame section from a '68 cougar.

If the original poster would rather keep it than just accept the reality
of the going rate for these cars, then why bother advertising it in the
first place?  *shrug*

Cheers,
Zombywoof - 03 Jan 2006 04:52 GMT
>>>You did include a link with lots of pictures.  I've owned and driven a
>>>number of Mustangs of this vintage and know how they ride and have a
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>
>Cheers,

Well I personally think that the original poster simply got in way
over her head in professional repair bills and wants to recoup at
least a part of her expenditures.  I really don't blame her on the
point since I've been there done that.  Unfortunately when one pays a
professional to make repairs to classics you very quickly out pace the
going rate for the car.  For my area as described she is r4eal close
to be at least double over the going asking rate for comparable cars.

It appears to be a decent daily driver, but still needs substantial
major repairs that would put a lot of people off.

Rust is a major sale killer and I personally will never ever deal with
it again.  The ROI is just to freaking low.
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lab~rat - 06 Jan 2006 14:51 GMT
>>>>You did include a link with lots of pictures.  I've owned and driven a
>>>>number of Mustangs of this vintage and know how they ride and have a
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>Rust is a major sale killer and I personally will never ever deal with
>it again.  The ROI is just to freaking low.

I think she needs to find a boyfriend that knows how to work on cars
and keep the damn thing...  ;)
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